Actually, that would be someone called "Luke Skywalker". As of DN, he's demonstrated the most power we've seen so far (aside from DE Sidious' Force storm), and is obviously at the Number One Spot.Do you even know who Ragnos is?
So what if Revan was more powerful than Malak? Who gives a flying crap. This topic is about Revan and Anakin going head to head.rofl. Hey genius, we're comparing Malak to Revan, due to the amount of power we saw from the star forge. Dooku has no relevancy here. Try again.Wow, I feel stupid for actually retyping that sentence.
Badly? Lol. Possibly the third best of the PT era loses badly to a video game character, who's only real feat is defeating Malak? Nope. It'd be a tough match for Revan, your bias and idiocy is getting a little ridiculous and this is only the first post I've read from you!
Speculation?Seeing as how we know pretty much jack about Plagueis. The novel on him isn't even set to come out for another two years.
What does it ability to produce ships (and Star Destroyers? Tie fighters? Tie fighter weren't even around back then, clown) have to do with the how much power it applies to the user? You didn't amplify how much more powerful Malak was, you just said some more stupid and useless stuff.I subbed in Star destroyers and tie fighters, simply because I don't recall a specific name being given to the ships being created. Regardless, the star forge could have created those.
And did you really just ask that question above? Wow! I'll refrain from insults. We don't need to know how much it amplified Malak in this debate. We just know that it's levels above sidious, considering that all of that force energy was focused on Malak. Which would mean that he was at a level in which he could create ships droids or just about anything through raw force energy. The closest Vader ever comes to this is in the book in which he comes close to regenerating his limbs. Impressive, but not quite close to the power of the star forge.
There's no set power level for Malak and the Star Forge, nor how he's somehow 10% of Ragnos. Malak is more on the level of Dooku or Mace Windu.I concede to this part alone being speculation, but these points were for fun, not to be taken seriously. Ironically though, I find it funny in how you assume Malak and Dooku are on the same level, even though below far below Malak are seen using force powers as advanced as force storm. Yep, they sure are even. 🙄
And I'd also be bold enough to say go back to sucking on Revan's unknown phallus! You seem to do a better job doing that than making arguments or, seeing as how ridiculous your statements are, a joke.More irony. Tell me, just what arguments have you contributed to suggest that Anakin is more powerful than Revan. Oh that's right, that he is the chosen one? Please.
Please stop using the drugs. I mean some aren't that bad, but abusing them like you do - I think we need to call D.A.R.E. And, that's coming from the heart.Please stop being a troll, and acting so nasty in a harmless versus debate. As funny as it is, I'd rather you not, for you're only spamming the topic.
Originally posted by zephiel7
Calling people dumb is not a way to react when someone disagrees with you. Relying on insults does not further the debate in any way.
True, but really - does this look like some kind of professional debate? It's not even formal.
Not really. From what we have seen of Dooku, defeating Anakin and Obi Wan and holding them off in ROTS (considering his disadvantage of not being allowed to kill them), powerful could mean potential, not combat ability.
Not really. Toying with AOTC Anakin and tooling AOTC Obi-Wan somehow has reference for ROTS? No, Anakin's grown far more powerful since then. And holding them off in ROTS? So because he held them off for a minute, Dooku is more powerful?
With all due sincerity, calling people stupid just makes you look like an immature brat. I would recommend stopping.
Sure.
Palpatine was more interested in Anakin's future potential, not how many Jedi he could kill at the purge. Anakin was easily the superiour of many Jedi in the council, (enough to do the job)but not quite up to Dooku.
Tell me - where the hell do you get the conclusion of Dooku > Anakin? I'd really like to know all your proof for that assertion.
Sidious was sure that he was capable at the time. More capable than Dooku? No.
"Soon I will have a new apprentice...one far more younger and far more powerful than Lord Tyranus."
I remind you that this was in response to Grievous asking about Count Dooku.
But enough to do the job. Again I say that Sidious valued Anakin more on his future prospects.
No doubt about that, however, I have factual evidence that supports Anakin > Dooku. You have...well, nothing really except a fanboyish position.
I suppose ROTS Sidious is the most "powerful Sith lord" according to your New Essential Chronology? Powerful may mean potential in this case. Sorry.
No, potential is potential. Sidious would've said "potential to be powerful", or something of the sort. It's clear - not just from Sidious himself, but all the other sources added together that Anakin > Dooku. Oh, and because the NEC was wrong on one matter - the entire thing is completely invalid? Great, I guess they made it for nothing then?
The Essential chronology has shown to reflect the opinions of the write occassionally. Anderson stated that there was a certain degree of subjectivity towards it, so don't take it too seriously.
F*ck Anderson. What you are basically saying is that the NEC is completely invalid, and even though there's other sources to support the theory - it's still rendered invalid. Nice friggin' logic.
Sidious told Dooku not to kill Anakin.
He was told to fight by Sidious, and give it your all.
Not what I call giving it your all.
I guess Darth Maul doesn't "give it his all" when he's told to do something by Sidious. Please, loyal Sith = will do as told.
Dooku lost because although he is superior, he was told not to kill Anakin by Sidious. Here I will expand on it.
No need, I've provided enough proof on the matter. Your "explanation" - which I may remind you isn't backed up on any facts is pretty useless. Oh, I forgot that he's at a disadvantage! Even though if he was superior, he'd be able to disarm Anakin.
Dooku was initially at a disadvantage because he was not allowed to kill. By the time he could change his mind his hand was cut off.
Bullsh*t? If he was so superior, he would not have fallen into that position. If he was so superior Sidious would have never said that "If Anakin gets the best of you, I'll save your tail".
If he was allowed to kill Anakin from the get go, then the situation where he lost his hand would have never occurred, because his state of mind would not be limited to going easy with Anakin.
Going easy? So now you're interpreting how well Dooku fought? How much he actually pushed Anakin?
Sorry, but you know I can easily say that Dooku fought as if he were about to lose his life to please his master, Sidious.
What do you mean by [apparently]?
Meaning I don't own LOE, and am going by what Lightsnake said.
And if Dooku was told to fight to the best of his ability, then Sidious would not have said "don't kill skywalker."
Actually, if Dooku was superior - Anakin beating him wouldn't be a thought. If he was so superior, he wouldn't have to even kill Skywalker - he could disarm him a la AOTC.
Seriously, you're not going anywhere with this. You only have ONE thing in your corner (and that doesn't trump my seven, one of which is GL) - and I can still counter that point as I already did.
I view any DLOTS as Stronger than Ani Besides Revan could Just Choke him to Death
Yeah, and then Revan wakes up from his wet dream. Revan most likely will beat Anakin, but not as easily as you're implying - that's pretty ridiculous.
Originally posted by Dark-Kenshin
Do you even know who Ragnos is?
Marka Ragnos, Dark Lord of the Sith for a century! Wow yeah, I know who he is - I've argued for him relentlessly against Lightsnake on a different forum.
rofl. Hey genius, we're comparing Malak to Revan, due to the amount of power we saw from the star forge. Dooku has no relevancy here. Try again.
Hey moron, good to see you again. 😉 Glad to see you can comprehend. Lemme' repeat that "COMPREHEND". I was making fun of you for stating that Revan > Anakin because he beat the ultima-super-saiya-mega-10x-kamemememha-superstar Malak.
Do you even read the whole post before responding,
I actually just click "Quote" and reply as I read.
or do you just speak on impulse?
Well, let's see: if I did speak on impulse - I'd still be smarter than you. So, either way - yeah.
I made my explanation of the starforge as simple as possible.
Here's what you said in a nutshell:
"Mal4k 1s as str0ng as a st4r d3stroyer n t1e fight3rs (even though Tie fighters weren't even invented, dolt) n i l1ek r4m3n n00dl35. R3V4N PWNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNS >>>>> ANI L0S3S!!!"
Basically, you didn't explain sh*t. You didn't amplify how much power it applies to the singular user.
Again, he defeated Malak while on the Star forge.
Tell me something that hasn't been repeated four hundred ninety six times.
The star forge uses force energy to manipulate matter, and create machines and other such devices out of thin air. If Sidious could do something like this, he would have used it to his advantage during the war. The only bias I see here is yours, considering you keep ignoring the star forge point with your silly "we don't know how much the Starforge amplifies power" notion. 😄
Don't ever put a smiley at the end of a sentence. That's a privilege.
Oh, and "manipulated matter to create machines out of thin air" still doesn't tell me HOW FRIGGIN' MUCH POWER it gives the user.
My bias is what exactly btw?
Of what we do know of him, is what Sidious said of him. Which again, is outclassed by the abilities shown in Kotor.
LOL! Tell me everything we know, other than he had the ability to cheat death, and apparently create life. Sidious said one damn thing about him, you tool. Get your head in the game, soldier - we don't know how powerful Plagueis was.
And this also shows your ignorance of the matter, and how much you cherish Revan.
I subbed in Star destroyers and tie fighters, simply because I don't recall a specific name being given to the ships being created. Regardless, the star forge could have created those.
No.
did you really just ask that question above?
What does it look like? I see you can't even read. That must be the problem, Night John.
Wow! I'll refrain from insults.
Please.
We don't need to know how much it amplified Malak in this debate. We just know that it's levels above sidious,
Proof? We "know" sh*t actually. "10% of Ragnos"? Bullsh*t. Come back when you have an actual argument - for now I'll just treat your responses as a joke.
considering that all of that force energy was focused on Malak. Which would mean that he was at a level in which he could create ships droids or just about anything through raw force energy.
Malak cannot create ships with his bare hands, you fool. And Revan would be torn to shreds by a Star Destroyer. Unless Revan > Star Destroyer?
The closest Vader ever comes to this is in the book in which he comes close to regenerating his limbs. Impressive, but not quite close to the power of the star forge.
Yeah, notice "the powers of the Star Forge". Not "powers of Malak".
I concede to this part alone being speculation, but these points were for fun, not to be taken seriously.
Yeah, did you have a good time making a fool out of yourself? I sure as hell had fun. Let's do this again sometime.
Ironically though, I find it funny in how you assume Malak and Dooku are on the same level, even though below far below Malak are seen using force powers as advanced as force storm. Yep, they sure are even. 🙄
Ironically though, I find it funny how you look up words on dictionary.com in an effort to sound smart. Even though you're below - far below - as can be seen in most of your posts using sad, sad grammar. Yep, you sure are something. 🙄
More irony. Tell me, just what arguments have you contributed to suggest that Anakin is more powerful than Revan. Oh that's right, that he is the chosen one? Please.
When have I ever said that, lol. Show me where I've said that, and I'll submit that you are my superior. Sadly, that'd be impossible for you to find considering it was never said, but good luck.
Please stop being a troll, and acting so nasty in a harmless versus debate. As funny as it is, I'd rather you not, for you're only spamming the topic.
Spamming the topic? Check again, pal. I've contributed some nice debates to this forum, maybe if you knew how to argue.
And here's the real irony: you call me a troll, spammer, etc. when you say "He's 10% of Ragnos!", you say "Revan [insert greater than sign 40x] Anakin", and all that bullsh*t.
I've already submitted Revan > Anakin. And like I said, it'd be a hard match but the victor would be Revan, so why would I contribute an argument for Anakin if I've clearly changed my views (said it in the last post for those of you [Dark-Kenshin] who can't read).
Not really. Toying with AOTC Anakin and tooling AOTC Obi-Wan somehow has reference for ROTS? No, Anakin's grown far more powerful since then. And holding them off in ROTS? So because he held them off for a minute, Dooku is more powerful?
Dooku stalemated Mace Windu, and was arguably the best duelist in the council before leaving. He held of Yoda, without facing any damage ( in fact he exhausted kermit the frog)
He has shown a strong grasp of force lightning. Just because Anakin is stronger than Obi Wan, does not necessarily mean he has a defence against lightning. There are several instances in Star Wars where this has been the case.
Tell me - where the hell do you get the conclusion of Dooku > Anakin? I'd really like to know all your proof for that assertion.
Really I thought the proof was self evident
Stalemated Mace Windu. Anakin, it has been conceded could not tie this weaponmaster. Before you bring in "oh you are going since A=B then A>C," I am talking about a straight out duel so it is not illogical.
Other than that, he held the two in a duel. Yes, that does mean that he can handle them both at once, while still being able to launch the other a few couple of metres away. He did not have to be careful about Obi Wan, that is why Kenobi found himself flying a couple of metres into the air.
He wtfpwned them earlier, so the duo had time to analyze his lightsaber style. Even with the tactical advantage he held the two off.
Look, I agree that Sidious said "fight skywalker." But "Palpatine the Impotent" also mentioned don't kill Skywalker
"Soon I will have a new apprentice...one far more younger and far more powerful than Lord Tyranus."I remind you that this was in response to Grievous asking about Count Dooku.
Why are you repeating this quote? I have told you that powerful used in the context of "young" and given all that Dooku has shown, could mean potential.
No doubt about that, however, I have factual evidence that supports Anakin > Dooku. You have...well, nothing really except a fanboyish position.
Not really, the proof that I presented above makes sense. You are bringing up obscure facts from NEC and more obscure things said by Sidious to Dooku.
And you are calling me a Dooku fanboy? The hell you must not have seen me in these forums. If anything I am fanboy of KOTOR characters because that is the setting I enjoy most.
It is known that Dooku was not allowed to kill Anakin. Admit it.
F*ck Anderson. What you are basically saying is that the NEC is completely invalid, and even though there's other sources to support the theory - it's still rendered invalid. Nice friggin' logic.
How you feel about Anderson means nothing. He stated that the NEC is not always right. I am not saying that it is invalid, but when it conflicts with logical fact, then it is invalid. How can you come to the conclusion that Anakin is greater despite the fact that :
A. Sidious told Dooku not kill Anakain, hence giving the Count a disadvantage from the get go? (Sure Anakin won, but if Sidious allowed Dooku to kill Anakin from the beginning, then the Count would not have lost his hands, and he would have won)
B. Dooku held the two back, and easily dispatched Kenobi, despite the overwhelming odds in numbers.
C. Stalemated Mace Windu, and exhausted Yoda
D. Was proficient in force lightning, (which he strangely did not use), a move which Anakin, you have not proved, knows a defence towards.
He was told to fight by Sidious, and give it your all.
Oh COME ON! If he was granted permission by Sidious to "give it his all," then why was he restricted from killing Anakin? How many times must I repeat THIS?
I guess Darth Maul doesn't "give it his all" when he's told to do something by Sidious. Please, loyal Sith = will do as told.
True, loyal sith will do as they are told. He obeyed the order not to kill Anakin. Hence he was not giving it his all.
The core of this dispute seems to be how we define "giving it his all"...
No need, I've provided enough proof on the matter. Your "explanation" - which I may remind you isn't backed up on any facts is pretty useless. Oh, I forgot that he's at a disadvantage! Even though if he was superior, he'd be able to disarm Anakin.
I repeat
A. Sidious told Dooku not kill Anakain, hence giving the Count a disadvantage from the get go? (Sure Anakin won, but if Sidious allowed Dooku to kill Anakin from the beginning, then the Count would not have lost his hands, and he would have won)
B. Dooku held the two back, and easily dispatched Kenobi, despite the overwhelming odds in numbers.
C. Stalemated Mace Windu, and exhausted Yoda
D. Was proficient in force lightning, (which he strangely did not use), a move which Anakin, you have not proved, knows a defence towards.
Not backed up by facts? I thought they were fairly self evident, since you people have seen them so many times before.
And you are now disregarding the margin of superiority, as well as the exhaustion factor that Dooku was subjected to.
Bullsh*t? If he was so superior, he would not have fallen into that position. If he was so superior Sidious would have never said that "If Anakin gets the best of you, I'll save your tail".
I repeat you are now disregarding the margin of superiority, as well as the exhaustion factor that Dooku was subjected to.
He fell into that position because Sidious cramped Dooku's dueling style. Losing a hand and dieing because it was too late because he was not allowed to kill Skywalker is hardly indicitive of Skwalker's superiority. 🙄
Going easy? So now you're interpreting how well Dooku fought? How much he actually pushed Anakin?Sorry, but you know I can easily say that Dooku fought as if he were about to lose his life to please his master, Sidious.
No. Dooku was fighting under the strict restrictions that his master imposed on him.
Meaning I don't own LOE, and am going by what Lightsnake said.
I would like firm proof on this. Thank you. He was at an disadvantage from the beginning. Really, if he were allowed to kill Anakin from the beginning, Dooku would not be a victim of unfortunate circumstances.
Oh, please, Dooku ran away because he knew he was going to lose if he stayed...the last time Dooku and Yoda fought on Vjun, with every advantage to Dooku...a very sound defeat, too
And what restrictions? Sidious just told Dooku to fight and he'd step in if Dooku was losing. We GET Dooku's POV on the issue in the novelization. Oh, and anakin and Obi-wan wanted to CAPTURE Dooku and not kill him.
Marka Ragnos, Dark Lord of the Sith for a century! Wow yeah, I know who he is - I've argued for him relentlessly against Lightsnake on a different forum.If you know who he is, you should know Luke doesn't even come close to him.
Hey moron, good to see you again. Glad to see you can comprehend. Lemme' repeat that "COMPREHEND". I was making fun of you for stating that Revan > Anakin because he beat the ultima-super-saiya-mega-10x-kamemememha.
Basically, you didn't explain sh*t. You didn't amplify how much power it applies to the singular user.These two statements go great together.🙂 And you say I can't comprehend? Again, we don't need to know how much it amplifies the user. From the info we're given, we know that Malak was literally using the star forge's force energy against Revan. And given the abilities the starforge has shown, we know it's a class above that of Sidious. Your bias is of the NT and OT characters, since you're willing to claim that they are as powerful as the characters in KOTOR without ever giving a reason.
Don't ever put a smiley at the end of a sentence. That's a privilege.Your bias is of the PT and OT characters, since you're willing to claim that they are as powerful as the characters in KOTOR without ever giving a reason. Other than the Dooku/Anakin debate, you haven't even given a real argument.Oh, and "manipulated matter to create machines out of thin air" still doesn't tell me HOW FRIGGIN' MUCH POWER it gives the user.
My bias is what exactly btw?
Play the game again. The very power that was used to create machines out of thin air was fueling Malak. Simple. Maybe lack of comprehension was your problem(cheap shot).
LOL! Tell me everything we know, other than he had the ability to cheat death, and apparently create life. Sidious said one damn thing about him, you tool. Get your head in the game, soldier - we don't know how powerful Plagueis was.I seem to recall the Jedi having cheating death for revan, just to use him to locate the starforge. Nhillus would fall under the self explanatory category, seeing as how he was pure force energy roaming around in a suit of armor. Too easy.
No.Yes.
What does it look like? I see you can't even read. That must be the problem, Night John.I'm just appolled at that you'd still be asking me to define the amplication of power amount(which is a given), and not understand the potency of being able to create ships and machines out of thin air. All at the same time, assume that these very same characters are even or near the level of the characters of the PT and OT era.
Proof? We "know" sh*t actually. "10% of Ragnos"? Bullsh*t. Come back when you have an actual argument - for now I'll just treat your responses as a joke.So it is uncertain as of whether or not being able to create ships out of thin air is above or below the level of power Sidious displayed? Wow! You know, if you were a super hero, I believe your first choices of names would either be Ironic man or the projectionist.
Malak cannot create ships with his bare hands, you fool. And Revan would be torn to shreds by a Star Destroyer. Unless Revan > Star Destroyer?Show me where I said he could. No surprise that you keep assuming, considering that is the inner machinations of your whole premise as to the level of power for Revan compared to Anakin, right maestro?😉
Yeah, notice "the powers of the Star Forge". Not "powers of Malak".Notice that Malak HAD the powers of the star forge. Nice try, but no prize.
Ironically though, I find it funny how you look up words on dictionary.com in an effort to sound smart. Even though you're below - far below - as can be seen in most of your posts using sad, sad grammar. Yep, you sure are somethingLooked up words? Why thank you. I didn't realize my vocabulary was that good. Tell me, just how old are you? And by the way English major, take a look at this reply......
Let me reiterate: Others below Malak who are on Jedi Knight skill level can perform force storm. The best Dooku can perform is regular force lightning. This completely proves your assumption false. You're right. Using those smileys is a privaledge. I advise you not use them anymore.
When have I ever said that, lol. Show me where I've said that, and I'll submit that you are my superior. Sadly, that'd be impossible for you to find considering it was never said, but good luck.Hey comprehension man, I was replying on the off chance you were going to throw that argument at me. I've seen it said by others, and had already taken precautions as to whether or not you'd say it.
Spamming the topic? Check again, pal. I've contributed some nice debates to this forum, maybe if you knew how to argue.Is there an echo in here? Yeah, you're spamming this topic. If you have nothing to contribute other than insults, that's spamming. I don't care how many arguments you've been in on here, for that still doesn't excuse your blatant uncivil attitude. Also, perhaps you should read up on the KMC terms and conditions, comprehension man.😉 What you're pointing out above is not the meat of my post, and you know it. If you honestly consider yourself a skilled debate, then you've yet to participate in a real debate.And here's the real irony: you call me a troll, spammer, etc. when you say "He's 10% of Ragnos!", you say "Revan [insert greater than sign 40x] Anakin", and all that bullsh*t.
I've already submitted Revan > Anakin. And like I said, it'd be a hard match but the victor would be Revan, so why would I contribute an argument for Anakin if I've clearly changed my views (said it in the last post for those of you [Dark-Kenshin] who can't read).
I'm not disagreeing with your submition of Revan being greater than Anakin. I'm disagreeing with your assertion of claiming that it would be a close match. Also with your other assertions on comparing Dooku and Mace Windu to Malak. If any case, if you don't like what I have to say, then don't respond.
I've spent a damn good few debates proving Ragnos certainly doesn't own all...his creator seems to think he's below Exar Kun and Sidious. Luke as of now would destroy practically anyone and that includes any Ancient Sith.
While I'm on the subject, the PT was the Golden Age of the Jedi...when their powers were at their peak. And when Marka Ragnos displays the ability to kill someone planets away with his anger alone, drain the force from worlds and obliterate fleets of ships at will...
Originally posted by Dark-Kenshin
If you know who he is, you should know Luke doesn't even come close to him.
Haha. Really? Now, tell me - why doesn't Luke "even come close to him"? What've we seen Ragnos do? Nothing?
Yeah, he's more powerful than Sadow, Kressh, and Simus - but wasn't the Ragnos > All argument already concluded? On top of that, I'd easily debate Luke > Ragnos - and of course, I'd win [against you].
These two statements go great together.🙂
Do they? I hadn't noticed considering I was too busy reading the trash you type.
And you say I can't comprehend?
Yeah, I do.
Again, we don't need to know how much it amplifies the user. From the info we're given, we know that Malak was literally using the star forge's force energy against Revan.
And how much energy is that exactly, hm?
And given the abilities the starforge has shown, we know it's a class above that of Sidious.
Yeah, Sidious - the one who by DE destroys entire fleets without any enhancements.
Your bias is of the NT and OT characters, since you're willing to claim that they are as powerful as the characters in KOTOR without ever giving a reason.
Yoda - "strongest foe the darkness has ever known". Well, there's one reason. If you want to go into an all out debate about PT characters vs. KOTOR characters I can do that quite easily. Just make the topic.
Your bias is of the PT and OT characters,
OT/PT characters? Firstly, let me address this saying I literally hate almost every Star Wars main character seen in a movie (minus Anakin) that includes: Yoda, OT Darth Vader, Sidious, Dooku, Windu, and the like. Darth Maul and Kenobi are alright too, but the rest 👇.
Tell me - am I really bias? I'm arguing as I'm typing this that Exar Kun > Yoda. Bias? Hell no.
since you're willing to claim that they are as powerful as the characters in KOTOR without ever giving a reason. Other than the Dooku/Anakin debate, you haven't even given a real argument.
You can quit repeating yourself, maestro. You just said that two sentences up.
P.S.: Tell Revan I said "Hello", assuming your not too busy having your mouth stuffed with Revan's pixelated "member".
Play the game again. The very power that was used to create machines out of thin air was fueling Malak. Simple. Maybe lack of comprehension was your problem(cheap shot).
Checked it, and that lack of comprehension is on your end, brother. Anyways, how much power was used to create machines? All you say is "the energy for machines = Malak's power". Well, how much energy was used for the machines?
P.S. again: You're a moron.
I seem to recall the Jedi having cheating death for revan,
"Having cheating"?
just to use him to locate the starforge. Nhillus would fall under the self explanatory category, seeing as how he was pure force energy roaming around in a suit of armor. Too easy.Yes.I'm just appolled at that you'd still be asking me to define the amplication of power amount(which is a given),
If it's a f*cking given, then tell me. Notice I'm not the only one critizing your words btw.
and not understand the potency of being able to create ships and machines out of thin air.
Dude, your arguing in circles. Just shut your yapper, you are not convincing a single person.
All at the same time, assume that these very same characters are even or near the level of the characters of the PT and OT era. So it is uncertain as of whether or not being able to create ships out of thin air is above or below the level of power Sidious displayed?
Dude, the Star Forge itself created those ships. Malak doesn't open his hand and a Star Destroyer appears.
Btw, I wouldn't be "Ironic man" you imbecile. I don't have a phallus, pal.
Anyways, the rest of what you typed is basically just bullsh*t. I think I'll just stop wasting my time. You can always come back to me when you need help doing your homework, or instead of going to dictionary.com - come to Motoko, and that's coming from the heart. From your big sister, Motoko to you, my little friend.
Oh, and it's also hilarious you said I need to work on my grammar considering the only mistake in that wonderful little little spiel I gave was writing "it" instead of "it's". Funny, because right after (and now I know you can't read) you spelled my name wrong. I, unlike you, don't misspell twenty words in my responses, and format my sentences correctly. I also, unlike you, don't need to use dictionary.com to sound smart.
If you have nothing to contribute other than insults, that's spamming.
Actually, I insult with my arguments, thank you very much. And I'd say I can rightly do so when I'm arguing with quasi-intellectual simpletons such as yourself.
Originally posted by Lightsnake
I've spent a damn good few debates proving Ragnos certainly doesn't own all...his creator seems to think he's below Exar Kun and Sidious. Luke as of now would destroy practically anyone and that includes any Ancient Sith.While I'm on the subject, the PT was the Golden Age of the Jedi...when their powers were at their peak. And when Marka Ragnos displays the ability to kill someone planets away with his anger alone, drain the force from worlds and obliterate fleets of ships at will...
You haven't proven anything lightsnake, you keep thinking you have but it takes more than your opinion for it to be fact. All you have proven is ambiguous text, a possibly real/possibly fake, ambiguous email, and a bunch of nonsense. Nowhere does it say his creator thought Exar Kun is better so you can quit lying to make yourself feel better. And bringing up Sidious' Dark Side Compendium doesn't work either since he was never shown using it, just shown writing about the powers. You bring up too many sources when it comes to losing an argument. The Golden Age of the Jedi states nothing about their powers being at their peak, because we have seen far more power from the ancient Jedi so as usual, your point is moot.
And Sama please stop wasting your time you will get nowhere with him.