Mystique vs Captain America

Started by Soljer10 pages

The blood lust fights, Captain America would take the majority; the in character fights, though become an even split or even slightly in mystique's favor.

From the Mystique Respect Thread Mystique can change the density of her body, what's stopping her from doing a Kitty Pryde and damaging Capts heart by phasing through him?

Density changed to phase.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=6897058

Damn the others came out really small. Wait a minute I'll fix this.
Density becomes lighter so she can glide.
http://img223.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mystique15090gr.jpg

Density increased to smack people with
http://img156.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mystique07044wr.jpg
http://img218.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mystique07065vr.jpg

Also the fact that Mystique can change the density of her body makes it even harder for one of Capts punches to connect. I'm starting to think that she could take scenario #1 as well.

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
From the Mystique Respect Thread Mystique can change the density of her body, what's stopping her from doing a Kitty Pryde and damaging Capts heart by phasing through him?

Density changed to phase.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=6897058

Damn the others came out really small. Wait a minute I'll fix this.
Density becomes lighter so she can glide.
http://img223.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mystique15090gr.jpg

Density increased to smack people with
http://img156.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mystique07044wr.jpg
http://img218.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mystique07065vr.jpg

Also the fact that Mystique can change the density of her body makes it even harder for one of Capts punches to connect. I'm starting to think that she could take scenario #1 as well.

Dude. I knew Mystique was powerful, but I had no idea she could do some of those things. Cap gets his ass kicked in every scenario.

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
The scan suggests that he did and let go once he was hit by the roof debris as it didn't shield him entirely, that's why the shield is right next to him when Skull pulls him out of the debris.

And no it actually makes perfect sense. The shield had to have been near him when the building was about to collapse otherwise it wouldn't have fallen right next to him. Everything points to him using it.

no nothing points to him using it, you just want him have used it, when the building fell, cap was nowhere near his shield, and when he gets pulled out of the debris he still isnt touching his sheild, but since it is close to him, you wish to beleive he used it.

The comic book never once showed cap think about using the shield, or say that he used it, in every scan it wasnt in his hand. THESE are FACTS, what you have given is a THEORY but it aint true.

Seriously, what comics are those from? I've never even heard of her phasing before, are you sure those aren't from like noncannon sources or something??? Poor cap. If thats really what Mystique can do. Cap loses 6/10.

Originally posted by rotiart
Seriously, what comics are those from? I've never even heard of her phasing before, are you sure those aren't from like noncannon sources or something??? Poor cap. If thats really what Mystique can do. Cap loses 6/10.
she still has to hit the cap....

Originally posted by rotiart
Seriously, what comics are those from? I've never even heard of her phasing before, are you sure those aren't from like noncannon sources or something??? Poor cap. If thats really what Mystique can do. Cap loses 6/10.
She had a solo series for a while...

Originally posted by King KAM
she still has to hit the cap....
Because no one's ever hit him before... 😐

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Because no one's ever hit him before... 😐
im not saying this... im just saying sooner or later she has to swing a punch, or kick right??? then she will be tangible and cap can reverse it and smash her up.

Originally posted by King KAM
im not saying this... im just saying sooner or later she has to swing a punch, or kick right??? then she will be tangible and cap can reverse it and smash her up.
You've got this strange idea that he can instantly "smash her up" with a single punch or something, when she's also versed in h2h and can fall from a building and get right back up. 🤨

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
You've got this strange idea that he can instantly "smash her up" with a single punch or something, when she's also versed in h2h and can fall from a building and get right back up. 🤨
she was hurt from the fall, and ive seen cap punch people throught cars, If cap hits her most likely its knock her down, or he will pressure point her.

And they are nowhere near eachother in terms of h2h skill.

Mystique is arguably in the same class range of fighters Cap is. I know she's really versatile, dexterious, and agile. Quick as a bugger too. I didn't know about the strength, density phasing. Well I can get the strength and density... but not the phasing... Still increase the density of the fist right before a connect.. thats gonna hurt. Cap holds his own for a while, but in the end, her quickness is what gets him.

Originally posted by King KAM
she was hurt from the fall, and ive seen cap punch people throught cars, If cap hits her most likely its knock her down, or he will pressure point her.

And they are nowhere near eachother in terms of h2h skill.

She can move her pressure points around. She's a metamorph.

She was punched by Rogue's Ms Marvel level strength through a wall.

There are two falls from great height I've posted. One she suffered an explosion, hit a building, fell 7+ storeys, and landed on her head. She was mildly worse for wear, but got back up and headed off.

The other one she landed on her back, falling from an even greater height. She got right back up.

She also got thrown out of a speeding car, hitting the ground face first. And again got right back up.

She can turn parts of herself into edge weapons and just gouge his eyes out.

*nods with KAM*

I still think Cap would lose the in character fight, though.

Originally posted by rotiart
Mystique is arguably in the same class range of fighters Cap is. I know she's really versatile, dexterious, and agile. Quick as a bugger too. I didn't know about the strength, density phasing. Well I can get the strength and density... but not the phasing... Still increase the density of the fist right before a connect.. thats gonna hurt. Cap holds his own for a while, but in the end, her quickness is what gets him.
woah....
okay i quit this thread, Mystique defeats No-one worth a damn in h2h, but yet she is now in caps level, you guys are all freaking crazy....

first bishop is better at h2h than Cap, now so is Mystique.

Originally posted by King KAM
woah....
okay i quit this thread
So Mystique wins then... cool. 🙂

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
So Mystique wins then... cool. 🙂
you guys are saying shit like Mystique is as good of a fighter as cap....this is just wrong.

I would never say Bishop is better at hand to hand than Cap. I wouldn't say Mystique is better at hand to hand. I'm saying with her powerset, and skills, she can win. I'm sorry, but she's the mutie.

Bishop without his kinetic absorbing power is gonna die to a guy like Cap or BP. But with it, he could probably pull even. maybe even a small majority. Mystiques just better made for this fight.

If its hand to hand, and she didn't do any density tricks? cap would win.

Originally posted by King KAM
you guys are saying shit like Mystique is as good of a fighter as cap....this is just wrong.
No one is saying that her hand to hand skills are equal to his.

However she is a proficient fighter. And she has a lot of additional abilities. Her body can essentially become a weapon, she can morph her hands into edge weapons. Her morphing power enables her to not only take appearances nowadays but also physical attributes e.g. wings, prehensile tail, wallcrawling. She can phase. All this and she has pretty high durability and a healing factor.

You know, I forgot about her enhanced healing when I was wagering she'd beat cap.