Starcraft vs. Halo

Started by Burning thought9 pages
Burning thought Restricted
Originally posted by doan_m
If anything, in space the Covenant would severely annihilate the protoss. Consider this: Your normal extermination fleet consist of 300 ships. If the Covenant actually want to commit to extermination they send around 500 ships. The offensive forces that were present on Chu Sara in Starcraft were only some 70 ships. To add on to that, the Covenant have a nasty tendency to have point defence weaponry fire at ranges of 300,000km + at the absolute bare minimum. Why is this a bare minimum? Because velocities of point defence weapons on a covenant cruiser are actually stated to be 300,000 km/s while plasma torpedoes have velocities of 150,000km/s. Not only would they have vicious superiority in range they do however have the harrowing firepower necessary to field massive firepower. Remember, most planetary bombardments occur with conventional weaponry. That is to say that each projectile has to have a massive amount of energy to be able to penetrate the crust, burn up the atmosphere, vaporize oceans etc etc. Now most would most likely jump up saying that there not allowed to glass a planet. But do I state that they are glassing a protoss occupied planet? No. I'm merely benchmarking the relevant firepower capabilities of covenant ships(i'm well aware of the OP's "no planet killing" rule). It's not like that kind of massive firepower would only work on planets. Its more then suffice to say that it would have absolutely devastating effects on a protoss ship or even a mothership(which as of Blizzcon has severely hit nerfbait with timebomb, black hole, planet cracker removed). To add on to that the Covenant have vicious sensors, vicious enough to actually smell a ship in slipstream from billion of kilometers away. It's simply more then suffice to say that the Covenant pack a severe superiority in space.

you still cannot possibly state that protess are any weaker than covenants because their weapons are not stated in numbers, sizes or ranges from what ive read. All we know is that they can vaporise a planets surface..besides none of the covenant ships will fire their guns at protoss ships..why? because Dark archons have control of the captains who are making them attack their own ships...

anyway as Blaxian said, Zerg alone are such an enormous group that they would simply swallow the haloverse

yes it seems motherships have been nerfed but at least in-game u can have more of them, 🙁 ill miss their abilities tho, shame they had to be removed

DarkC -KMC THREAD KILLER-

Why doesn't anyone acknowledge the proportionate dangerousness of the Flood? Do the words "Not even a single Flood cell could be allowed to escape" mean nothing?

BlaxicanHydra Restricted

Because the Flood will kill anything and everything. The Zerg have been shown to show allegiance and control.. the Flood just kill all.

DarkC -KMC THREAD KILLER-

Originally posted by BlaxicanHydra
Because the Flood will kill anything and everything. The Zerg have been shown to show allegiance and control.. the Flood just kill all.

As far as I can tell, Zerg have not shown the brains to figure out how to drive or pilot foreign vehicles, let alone capital ships.

BlaxicanHydra Restricted

They have not, but then again they don't need to.

And what I meant by control I meant the Zerg can resist the temptation to maul there human allies. The Flood... they just kill everything. It's in there programming I guess.

DarkC -KMC THREAD KILLER-

The Zerg resist the temptation not because of their own accord, but because of a great, more intelligent mind. They have absolutely no sense of autonomy at all. Kerrigan was kind enough to hold her brood back from wiping Fenix and Raynor when they were helping her out.

The Flood, so far as I can tell, have no great mind to control all their actions. Gravemind doesn't count, because when he sent Chief and Arbiter to find the Index (which is really BAD for the Flood, by the way), Flood still attacked them.

Burning thought Restricted

Zerg are greater than the flood, the Zerg as Blaxian says have a lot greater intellect and their a lot stronger

all i remember of what i played of the flood however is in the first Halo, ridiculous little gas sack creatures jumping on me and zombie like things

DarkC -KMC THREAD KILLER-

I see, and what do you classify the Flood's ability to pilot capital ships and vehicles as, "lucky"? The ability to weild and figure out weapons?

The Zerg may be stronger unit-to-unit, but they're still heavily outnumbered.

Yes, each of those little "gas sack" infection forms are armed with a razor-tipped tentacle which can penetrate reinforced armor and use to tap their host's spinal cord and jumble it up to their heart's content. And every time you kill one more take its place.

Not to mention the Flood combat forms, they're highly durable and can wield weapons.

Burning thought Restricted

heavily out numbered, i think not m8, every zerg brood has over half a million creatures in it at least and in the first game there are about 8 zerg broods known of, it also says many are not spoken off and thats just the first game a little while before the expansion pack which adds more broods as well as Sarah kerrigan who while in control for some reason had access to certain new creatures the Overmind did not have

besides the ability to use weapons and vehichles doesnt show greater intelligence, i agree maybe each flood creature is probably more intelligent than the average zergling but far from the Overmind itself not to menstion Zerg have no need to use guns because their own bladed arms and spines and acid they protect are far more powerful, the mutalisk who probably has one of the weakest acid attacks known to the zerg launches a glaive worm that can disintegrate through about 4 layers of the terran command center, and its more heavily armored than most of the Halo buildings from what ive seen in the games.

comparing their acid to a guardians whos acid is incredible enough to even smash the highly technologically advanced and shielded protoss protoss armored weapons and buildings would easily cancel out any ability to defeat the zerg and thats just one of them, considering there are billions upon billions of zerg the Haloverse cannot win. Especially if you take into account anything the Zerg destory or get weakened they can infest and control as their own weapon

DarkC -KMC THREAD KILLER-

Originally posted by Burning thought
heavily out numbered, i think not m8

Um, yes I think so. The Flood grow exponentially given a food source.

A carrier form can be created within a few hours, which releases yet another swarm of bulbous infection forms. A carrier form, once incapacitated, can mutate into a carrier form.

Originally posted by Burning thought
every zerg brood has over half a million creatures in it at least

Rattling off sets of numbers doesn’t mean anything to me, Burning. I could technically claim a victory right here and now because the Flood continues to grow exponentially beyond numbers and counting. They multiply like crazy, grow, multiply some more.

When the Flood took control of a ship, they blissfully released a proverbial cloud of carrier form to infest others when they were but a scant fraction of the original wave that overwhelmed the Covenant ship in the first place.

For every one you kill, a shitload more takes its place.

Originally posted by Burning thought
and in the first game there are about 8 zerg broods known of

No, that doesn’t objectively mean anything, Burning. Kukulkan was wiped out completely. Tiamat and Garm were fairly decimated as well anyways.

I could go ahead and say that the Flood is so numerous that the Forerunners had to build seven ring worlds to contain the infestation in the same way.

it also says many are not spoken off and thats just the first game a little while before the expansion pack which adds more broods as well as

Originally posted by Burning thought
Sarah kerrigan who while in control for some reason had access to certain new creatures the Overmind did not have

The Devourer was an alteration of the Guardian’s genetic code, as was the Lurker’s to the Hydralisk’s. What’s your point? The whole “good” thing, or powerful about the Zerg was that they could seize the genetic code of any living being possible and alter it to their will.

Picking to screw around with two Zerg minion types doesn’t mean squat in comparison to the Flood, who operate the same way; the Infection Forms

Originally posted by Burning thought
besides the ability to use weapons and vehichles doesnt show greater intelligence

If you can just look past your Blizzard fan boy-ism for just one second, please.

The Flood’s “infantry”, so to speak, have the ability to pilot a space-faring ship that takes a highly trained crew of people to maintain and figure out. If that isn’t “intelligent” I don’t know what is.

Originally posted by Burning thought
i agree maybe each flood creature is probably more intelligent than the average zergling

Wrong, they’re smarter than all the Zerg minions, who as I said, have no sense of autonomy. Besides the primal instincts of kill and eat, Zerg minions other than the Overlord and Queen have absolutely nothing.

They depend on someone higher to tell them what to do and to keep them under control, otherwise they go insane, as Zeratul clearly demonstrated.

Originally posted by Burning thought
but far from the Overmind itself

Um, newsflash. The Overmind is dead.

The new one, as far as I can tell, is either enslaved by Kerrigan or destroyed as well.

Originally posted by Burning thought
not to menstion Zerg have no need to use guns because their own bladed arms and spines and acid they protect are far more powerful,

I’m fully aware of the Zerg abilities and background, thanks.

It’s a shamelessly flawed argument. It goes along the same lines as a one man vs one man thing. Repeatedly listing their move list doesn’t mean squat. It isn’t because they don’t need to use guns, it’s because the Overlord didn’t have guns in mind when he created the genetic code for each Zerg minion.

Saying that one race is more powerful because it doesn’t depend on other weapons (and by the way, the Flood don’t depend on them, they just utilize anything to their advantage when they see the chance, hence driving.) is stupid on an entirely new level. Look at what happened to the Aztecs.

Originally posted by Burning thought
the mutalisk who probably has one of the weakest acid attacks known to the zerg launches a glaive worm that can disintegrate through about 4 layers of the terran command center

You need to get your facts straight.

All Zerg acid-based primary attacks are the same. Hydralisk quills, Mutalisk’s Glaive Wyrm, Guardian’s glob bombs. Their genetic code is written that way. It’s just that some techniques in which said acid is utilized is different.

And a single glaive wyrm can’t even burn through two sets of floor plates, let alone four layers. I’m personally curious as to where you get this seemingly nonsense information.

Originally posted by Burning thought
and its more heavily armored than most of the Halo buildings from what ive seen in the games.

From what you’ve seen in the games. Right. It’s the largest building in the Terran list, but why do you automatically assume that it’s the most heavily outnumbered?

It’s a command center, Burning, it’s not meant as a defensive building.
If anything, the Bunker is relatively the most heavily armored.

Originally posted by Burning thought
comparing their acid to a guardians whos acid is incredible enough to even smash the highly technologically advanced and shielded protoss protoss armored weapons and buildings would easily cancel out any ability to defeat the zerg and thats just one of them

Poor reasoning, Burning, you’re still comparing within universe. The game wouldn’t exist if the races weren’t so clearly balanced. You’re still grossly overhyping the Zerg, every ten seconds or so.

A reason why ‘any’ ability to defeat the Zerg should be the fact that they can climb into the proverbial ring with the Protoss? Does this include the Terrans too? Congratulations, Mr, Obvious, you’ve just proved that a Guardian’s acid is potent enough to melt armor plating and that there’s more types of Zerg abilities. That doesn’t negate any ability that the Flood, or any other race for that matter, to be able to take them on.

As I said, providing a “move-list” doesn’t mean shit.

Originally posted by Burning thought
considering there are billions upon billions of zerg the Haloverse cannot win.

Lies.

I know the StarCraft technicalities. The numbers, despite the Zerg’s rate of growth and their “unmentioned” Broods, do not come even close to one billion. Maybe 50 million at the most.

List of Zerg Broods
Information taken straight from the original StarCraft playing manual.

Give me facts, BT, instead of half-baked nonsense that gets made up in your favour.

Originally posted by Burning thought
Especially if you take into account anything the Zerg destory or get weakened they can infest and control as their own weapon

Yeah, I have, and that’s how Flood operate too. Only it’s their method of feeding, rather than battle. They infest anything they can get their hands on, not just particular types.

I suggest you know what the hell you are comparing something to before starting a big wave of irony here.

BlaxicanHydra Restricted

Heavily outnumbered? Neg. The Zerg number in the Trillions. And the flood aren't intelligent because they can wield weapons and pilot ships, the hosts that they infect are intelligent, sentient beings that they take over, they then sap whatever intelligence they can from there host. The ACTUAL Flood themselves are not that intelligent.

DarkC -KMC THREAD KILLER-

Originally posted by BlaxicanHydra
Heavily outnumbered? Neg. The Zerg number in the Trillions.

List of Zerg Broods
Taken directly from the game manual.

There's my proof, Blaxican. Where's yours?

Originally posted by BlaxicanHydra
And the flood aren't intelligent because they can wield weapons and pilot ships, the hosts that they infect are intelligent, sentient beings that they take over, they then sap whatever intelligence they can from there host. The ACTUAL Flood themselves are not that intelligent.

Precisely, Blaxican. The Flood infection forms absorb knowledge and intelligence from it's host, who happens, most of the time, to be smart. That doesn't technically change anything, because that knowledge is still there.

Seeing as how the Infection Forms infest pretty much anything they touch, I'd say that was still a particularly dangerous trait of theirs. Wouldn't you?

BlaxicanHydra Restricted
List of Zerg Broods
Taken directly from the game manual.

That's Wikipedia crylaugh

I'm going to edit that right now to say 1 trillion.

Precisely, Blaxican. The Flood infection forms absorb knowledge and intelligence from it's host, who happens, most of the time, to be smart. That doesn't technically change anything, because that knowledge is still there.

The average flood is dumb as a rock. They do only what there genetic coding tells them to do. It's only when they get a host that they attain any sort of "intelligence". 😬

Seeing as how the Infection Forms infest pretty much anything they touch, I'd say that was still a particularly dangerous trait of theirs. Wouldn't you?

Possibly. Could they do the same thing do the same thing to the Zerg? Actually... who cares? If I decided to include the Flood it would be game over for EVERYONE anyway, as the Flood don't pick sides, while the Zerg do.

BlaxicanHydra Restricted

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zerg_Brood#Tiamat_Brood

😱 😆

I win this pseudo-debate.

DarkC -KMC THREAD KILLER-

Originally posted by BlaxicanHydra
That's Wikipedia crylaugh

I'm going to edit that right now to say 1 trillion.


When you have technically no proof to say otherwise?
Don't be such an idiot, Blaxican. You realise that even if you don't log on, it records your IP Address if you're editing it anonymously and Blizzard folks drop by to make sure their information is accurate every now and then.

Simply making a claim and pretending it's fact when you have absolutely no proof otherwise even when asked is beyond stupid. As is saying "That's Wikipedia" and implying that it's false information.

Go check the SC game manual yourself. That's my proof.

Originally posted by BlaxicanHydra
The average flood is dumb as a rock. They do only what there genetic coding tells them to do. It's only when they get a host that they attain any sort of "intelligence". 😬

Yes, I had already agreed to that, Blaxican. I never denied it in the first place. Intelligence, inherent or not, is still intelligence.

Why are you still going on about it as if it had meant something?

Originally posted by BlaxicanHydra
If I decided to include the Flood it would be game over for EVERYONE anyway, as the Flood don't pick sides, while the Zerg do.

Oh, I see, you're pitting three powerful races against two. See, this is what you've done:

Protoss has a counterpart: Covenant.
Terran has a counterpart: UNSC.
Zerg? Well, let's just let the Zerg swarm the Covenant and UNSC! Hey! Even though they're lore-wise, powerful enough to take both Protoss and Terran!

How is this fair? It isn't.

Originally posted by BlaxicanHydra
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zerg_Brood#Tiamat_Brood

😱 😆

I win this pseudo-debate.


How very mature, Blaxican.

They got their information straight from the Starcraft playing manual, as I said. And you have the balls to stupidly alter it.

I can see that your IP is

Spoiler:
69.181.214.151
. Thanks, I can do something handy with it. I'm sure Blizzard would appreciate it.

BlaxicanHydra Restricted
Don't be such an idiot, Blaxican. You realise that even if you don't log on, it records your IP Address if you're editing it anonymously and Blizzard folks drop by to make sure their information is accurate every now and then.

Duh, I realized it. I knew from the moment that I edited ti that in a short time the information will be put back in place. I did it for kicks. You don't understand what "doing things for kicks" means though, I know. I would never edit something like that if I knew it was permanent, or I wouldn't get caught.

Simply making a claim and pretending it's fact when you have absolutely no proof otherwise even when asked is beyond stupid. As is saying "That's Wikipedia" and implying that it's false information.

I wasn't implying it was false information, your funny for thinking that. I was expecting a website citing the manual or something, but when I saw it was Wikipedia I got the idea to edit it, which made em laugh.

Go check the SC game manual yourself. That's my proof.

D'ut nneed to. Why? Because it doesn't matter to me. Unlike you, I'm not desperate to get into any debate I can and win it by any means. Hell, I'm not even debating. I'm screwing with you.

Yes, I had already agreed to that, Blaxican. I never denied it in the first place. Intelligence, inherent or not, is still intelligence.

True.

Why are you still going on about it as if it had meant something?

"Because I choose to."


Oh, I see, you're pitting three powerful races against two. See, this is what you've done😛rotoss has a counterpart: Covenant.
Terran has a counterpart: UNSC.
Zerg? Well, let's just let the Zerg swarm the Covenant and UNSC! Hey! Even though they're lore-wise, powerful enough to take both Protoss and Terran!

No.. just stating the facts. The flood are too stupid and ravenous to pick sides. Not my fault that they eat everything they see 😛

How is this fair? It isn't.

Yeah, life ain't fair though. Sucks for the Halo forces.

They got their information straight from the Starcraft playing manual, as I said. And you have the balls to stupidly alter it.

For sh*ts and giggles.

I can see that your IP is
Spoiler:
69.181.214.151
. Thanks, I can do something handy with it. I'm sure Blizzard would appreciate it.

They won't give two sh*ts. Here's what will happen (I've seen a bud of mine do this before, so I know.) They'll check back, see that someone's altered it, and fix it, then they'll IP ban me from Wikipedia.

Big whoop. Don't even bother threatening me. "Oooooo0o0o Blaxican I'm gonan tell Blizzard on you, lolZ!" 😆

DarkC -KMC THREAD KILLER-

Originally posted by BlaxicanHydra
I wasn't implying it was false information, your funny for thinking that.

Oh, so you're the first one out of about fifty people that put Wikipedia in a less than respectful light that implies that their information is accurate after all.

I suppose there's always a first.

Originally posted by BlaxicanHydra
I was expecting a website citing the manual or something

And the very large "REFERENCES" tab at the very bottom states that the primary source of its information is the Starcraft playing manual.

It cites the manual fair enough.

Originally posted by BlaxicanHydra
but when I saw it was Wikipedia I got the idea to edit it, which made em laugh.

Do you think altering an article which someone had painstakingly formatted and referenced with a legitimate bibliography to suit your own entertainment is funny?

Because if so, Blaxican, that's an incredibly pathetic and stupid thing to do. I say it like it is.

Originally posted by BlaxicanHydra
D'ut nneed to. Why? Because it doesn't matter to me.

Oh, so you can simply throw information in as if it were fact, even though it is so clearly wrong.

Excuses, excuses.

Originally posted by BlaxicanHydra
Unlike you, I'm nto desperate to get into any debate I can and win it by any means.

Another very poor and weak attempt to read my mind and my motives for getting into a discussion. Unlike you, I don’t form stupid and false assumptions about another person’s reasons for debating.

I don't go into "any debate I can", Blaxican, otherwise you would see me in every single thread that had a 'VS' sign attached to its title. Don’t pretend like you know me, Blaxican, because you don’t. A lot of close friends on KMC can’t read me properly at times, what makes you think you can? Psychic Friends Anonymous Inc?

I go into a discussion if I feel strongly against it or seem interested and I don’t debate for the sake of debating. I don’t debate for the sake of debating itself, it has to do with the discussion at hand. Understand?

Originally posted by BlaxicanHydra
Hell, I'm not even debating. I'm screwing with you.

Ah, the old “I’m not even debating with you here” cliché tactic.

Pathetic.

Originally posted by BlaxicanHydra
No.. just stating the facts. The flood are too stupid and ravenous to pick sides. Not my fault that they eat everything they see 😛

And it is fact that the Zerg, currently as is, will still ally with Protoss and Terran against something else not even into their benefit? I could use this same idiotic “circumstantial realism” there, see? And that the Protoss and Covenant would rather chat first instead of seeing each other as inferiors? Just some random examples out there.

Like I said, screw the realism regarding the circumstances. Fights like these don’t make sense ideologically 90% of the time.

Originally posted by BlaxicanHydra
Yeah, life ain't fair though. Sucks for the Halo forces.

For sh*ts and giggles.


How interesting. You’ve just admitted to creating a thread that is one-sided despite knowing the fact that it’s technically against the rules.

You know what? Golly, I think this thread classifies as a troll one now!

Originally posted by BlaxicanHydra
They won't give two sh*ts. Here's what will happen (I've seen a bud of mine do this before, so I know.)

Yes, actually, they will give “two shits” if they have the resolve to IP ban you from Wikipedia.
Originally posted by BlaxicanHydra
They'll check back, see that someone's altered it, and fix it, then they'll IP ban me from Wikipedia.

Precisely, Blaxican.

Justice is served, right? Admins don’t like vandalism. I don’t either.
And hey, you were really asking for your comeuppance anyways.

Originally posted by BlaxicanHydra
Big whoop. Don't even bother threatening me. "Oooooo0o0o Blaxican I'm gonan tell Blizzard on you, lolZ!" 😆

Don’t even bother? Why, I believe I just did! Besides, you’re just proved that you’re an immature idiot with no sense of respect for other’s work.

I knew you were going to follow through with yet another stupid assumption.
Learn to stop and read my posts carefully before doing so. I highly recommend it.

I don’t beat about the bush if I threaten, Blaxican. I tell it forthright. I was making a sarcastic joke, because I know that I don’t even need to report anything anyways.

Burning thought Restricted

Darkc seems to just love the flood and add to their abilities while reducing that of the Zerg, m8 read the books of the zerg, although i cba to find the name in one of them one glaive worm melts through about 3/4 layers of armoured flooring as stated in the book, the bunker is not as heavily armoured as a command center....nice try tho

the starcraft 1 manual is out of date, it does not accord brood wars numbers not to menstion you have no idea how many broods there could be in starcraft, for all you know there could be trillions of them, the weak amount of force protecting the new overmind number in the millions

what rubbish is this? all acid the zerg use is the same..yes right, thats why the guardians Acid explodes and in-game deals far more damage....if its the same acid why does the guardians explode or is it a lame way of you trying to push things into your favour..hmm interesting and he calls me a fanboy..is a fanboy anyone who doesnt agree with you?...okie.your a Halo flood fanboy... 🙄

also you say the Overmind is dead, i dont remember Blaxian saying the time period for the races 😕 ime afraid that argument does not hold nor does it that you say most of the tiamat is dead either...sorry but it doesnt hold at all, all it says are that the zerg are fighting and ALL heroes are available for the sides and believe it or not, Overmind is counted as a hero..read the beloved starcraft Manual, its not far from the back in the heroes section...

the only way that this can go is the unkilled and barely intelligent blood who can barely fire weapons run like drunks at the Zerg launching the low calibre halo weaponry like the drunks they seem to fire like in the games and then the powerfully armoured and armed zerg forces use their bio weaponry to disintergrate the freaks from range...dead and gone not to menstion the little gas balls who if they do manage to tap their little claw through powerful zerg carapace they will find no humanoid spinal columb to link to....then they die...

sorry but the only way the flood would win against the zerg is if the Overmind simply burst and died from the thought of the inferior flood creatures

DarkC -KMC THREAD KILLER-

Originally posted by Burning thought
Darkc seems to just love the flood and add to their abilities while reducing that of the Zerg

And do you have any proof that I “love” the Flood?
Have I referred to them with affection or something? They’re vile, they’re just more capable of screwing places over than the Zerg are.

Provide proof that I’ve been undercutting the Zerg.

Originally posted by Burning thought
m8 read the books of the zerg

Oh, the novels, you mean? I own the first three.

Go ahead, test me if you don’t believe me.

Originally posted by Burning thought
although i cba to find the name in one of them

See, this is what I am talking about when I say you need to get your facts straight rather than a remarkably lame “can’t be assed” excuse.
Originally posted by Burning thought
one glaive worm melts through about 3/4 layers of armoured flooring as stated in the book

One glaive worm melts through one deck of floorplates, Burning.

I believe you’re mistaking one glaive worm with an entire bleeding, smoking Mutalisk corpse. The corpse did burn its way down through a few decks of the command center (not four exactly, where the hell do you get this information) only because it was gushing acidic blood everywhere that was melting the floor plates.

Either way, you’re still wrong.

Originally posted by Burning thought
the bunker is not as heavily armoured as a command center....nice try tho

Hahahahaha, and what arguments or reasoning are there to support you?

A bunker has 350 HP, a Command Center has 1500.
A bunker is small enough, about the size of a large sitting room, so that only a maximum of four personnel can be housed at its firing ports.
A command center is huge, much huger than a bunker.

So why do five bunkers have more durability than a command center? Because they are relatively better armored. Game-wise the armor is both stated as heavy and a AR of one, but you have to look at the HP of the buildings to see what I mean.

Originally posted by Burning thought
the starcraft 1 manual is out of date, it does not accord brood wars numbers

Extremely poor excuse. Learn to read my post properly.

The total number of population the forementioned broods in the guide comes closet o about 12 million. I gave it 50 million at the most, which should account for any other broods not mentioned. That’s a generous amount.

Originally posted by Burning thought
not to menstion you have no idea how many broods there could be in starcraft, for all you know there could be trillions of them

The Overmind has trouble controlling more than one brood, he has to enlist Cerebrates to his aid and even then is pestered often by them for counsel and advice. What the hell makes you think that he can master that of a trillion other broods?

Simply ridiculous.

Originally posted by Burning thought
the weak amount of force protecting the new overmind number in the millions

Oh, because I’m sure that the Overmind would enlist two “weak” broods to ensure it’s safety. Real rich there, Burning thought. They’re the #1 and #3 most populated broods, respectively, and that wasn’t even the whole brood protecting the Overmind in the first place.

The Jormungand and Tiamat broods are stated as part of the “upper circle”, so to speak, of the Zerg broods. Tiamat is explicitely stated as being the most powerful of the Zerg broods, and it breeds the specialized forms of minions.

Originally posted by Burning thought
what rubbish is this? all acid the zerg use is the same..yes right, thats why the guardians Acid explodes

Please try to see past your figurative nose here, Burning.

The guardian acid explodes because it is in a heavy , concentrated, mucous form, understand? Different forms of utilization constitute different effects. Try to understand that much.

Originally posted by Burning thought
and in-game deals far more damage....if its the same acid why does the guardians explode or is it a lame way of you trying to push things into your favour..

Read above, Burning thought.

If you fail to see past your nose in an enlightened way, then it’s entirely out of my hands together. Acid, no matter what kind, is more potent as it gets more concentrated. It’s not an excuse, it’s a proven fact born of common sense.

Originally posted by Burning thought
hmm interesting and he calls me a fanboy..is a fanboy anyone who doesnt agree with you?

No, a fanboy to me is someone who constantly overhypes about a certain subject or game that they consistently support. Try not to make silly assumptions about why I call people fanboys.

In another argument Sado22 was doing the same thing, yet I didn’t call him a Tekken fanboy.

Originally posted by Burning thought
...okie.your a Halo flood fanboy... 🙄

Again, another extremely stupid assumption.

I play both Halo and StarCraft regularly, but because I choose a certain aspect of one over another isn’t saying that I’m a fanboy. Because I don’t think that Zerg will triumph over Flood means I’m a Halo fanboy, right?

Wrong.
I personally think that Covenant and Protoss are deadlocked while Terran are better than the UNSC.

Originally posted by Burning thought
😕 ime afraid that argument does not hold nor does it that you say most of the tiamat is dead either...sorry but it doesnt hold at all, all it says are that the zerg are fighting and [B]ALL heroes are available for the sides and believe it or not,

[quote]Originally posted by Burning thought
Overmind is counted as a hero..read the beloved starcraft [B]Manual, its not far from the back in the heroes section...[/b]


It’s actually notable people in the StarCraft universe, and because listing Overmind in the back does not make him a “hero”. Not even all of those were featured as units in the game, such as Arcturus Mengsk, or in the Brood War version, Admiral DuGalle.

Even if Overmind is featured in this particular battle, I don’t think it makes any difference otherwise. The Zerg prospered under Kerrigan’s (who is primarily a human hero, as featured in the manual you mentioned) rule.

Originally posted by Burning thought
the only way that this can go is the unkilled and barely intelligent blood who can barely fire weapons run like drunks at the Zerg launching the low calibre halo weaponry like the drunks they seem to fire like in the games

You’re not very informed of the types of Flood, are you?

All the Flood has to really do is charge en masse with every kind they have. With their relative speed, it’d end up with combat forms first, Juggernauts second, followed up by a tidal wave of infection forms.

Originally posted by Burning thought
and then the powerfully armoured and armed zerg forces

So were the Covenant. They even had energy shields.

Look what happened to many of them. Oh dear.

Originally posted by Burning thought
use their bio weaponry to disintergrate the freaks from range

So did the Covenant, only they had plasma rifles.

Look what happened to many of them. Oh dear.

Originally posted by Burning thought
and gone not to menstion the little gas balls who if they do manage to tap their little claw through powerful zerg carapace

Actually, if one of these little “gas balls” can tap through crossweaved hardened armor plating then why should they have trouble punching a hole through a Zerg carapace?

Again. Know what the hell you are talking about.

Originally posted by Burning thought
they will find no humanoid spinal columb to link to....then they die...

The Zerg are not insects, so far as I can tell. Far too big for that.

They need some sort of spinal column to support their bodies upright, otherwise what passes for an internal skeletal structure would collapse from it’s own weight from the physics.

Originally posted by Burning thought
sorry but the only way the flood would win against the zerg is if the Overmind simply burst and died from the thought of the inferior flood creatures

And yet you wonder why I called you a Blizzard fanboy?

(points above) See, BT, this is why.
I don’t purposefully put Zerg in a bad light just because I think they’d lose, do I?

Burning thought Restricted

🙄 L2 read....i said the new overmind...new...the new one had few forces protecting it and they were over 2 million strong also your "overmind cannot control" rubbish has no strong evidence behind it, his cerebrates are loyal to him and he can stop any of them at any given time, he says so himself, even if they bicker, they are not his advisers they are simply part of him, like a slab of brain from himself obviously not literally but thats what their like that hes using to control the hordes, any indivduality they show is personality and their high intelligence yet they cannot do anything against the overmind, he says so in i think the second mission briefing so as i said before,there "could" be well over 100 zerg broods for all we know since zerg seem to pop up everywhere...infact how can you even try and deny the overminds intellect span? he never says limits, infact there are a lot of times in the game, both of them where unnamed cerebrates crop up....

also your putting them in a bad light by even trying to compare them to halo organisations, you even try and compare the UNCE and covenant armor to marine and protoss, its like comparing warhammer 40k space marines against the soldiers of today in real armies....Terran marines fire weapons more powerful and more developed and wear super power suits, often said to be copied of warhammer with all the support systems and amplifiers they get, one terran marine is likely to take on a spartan and would easily take on large groups of the average trooper with his supersonic fiering explosive rounds. Taking all this into account you have to realise that:

Terran armor>UNCE obvious...their far more advanced and their armor can withstand shots from their own greater weapons than the UNCE

Terran tank armor<Ultralisk armor from the zerg, as well as Zerg ultralisk blades>Terran tank armor

the covenants are simliar with the protoss, not to menstion their grunts are pathetic and even their elites die incredibly quickly against UNCE assault rifles..taking into account assault rifle<supersonic gauss rifle we can easily tell an elite would prob die from one shot, supersonic explosive rounts...honestly and the Zerg can survive several rounds which shows they are far more durable anything to flood has faced, also what makes you think even if the Zerg do have spines which isnt confirmed 100% but if they do, what makes you think they could take over a zerg or infest it...its diffrent from a humanoid

also were forgetting al together that although their armor is far greater than what the flood has ever hit against, they can regenerate, in seconds Zerg can reform organs and tissue, every wound if the flood get close at all and actually can cause any damage can be reformed since they dont have the weapons of either the terran or the protoss