The Antithesis of Ragnos Owns All

Started by Lightsnake22 pages

They're not. stats are there with gameplay, they're n-canon and have been declared so by the Holocron.

Not valid whatsoever,

Again I tell you, stats may be considered N-canon, but they actually DO apply considering the fact of what Chee said. I wont mention that the sourcebook is approved by Lucas because that's irrelevant, but Chee said that these RPG stats are specifically made to measure one's power against another. And like I said, it does add to the part about Ragnos being the most powerful of the most powerful, but since it's N-Canon I won't go there. All I know is it's a hell of a lot more conclusive than Palpy being the strongest ever(which again is as ambiguous as hell in terms of a power vs. ancient sith/anybody)

N-canon. MEaning they mean NOTHING, unless you want to concede that Yoda>Kun, Vader>Kun...

ok let me ask you something..Let's say these stats said that Obiwan>Kun... Would they be Valid? Of course not, because they clearly contradict ANY canon text. Showing Ragnos' stats doesn't mean he can defeat Palpatine, Kun, or even Obiwan in a 1 on 1 duel, it just simply shows how powerful he really is. Are you understanding here?

Except they don't. They contradict your opinion. NOTHING says Kun<Obi-wan.

RPG stats aren't canon, don't use them. The official, 100 percent canon holocron classifies them as N-canon, and that's that

What is wrong with you? I never said Kun>Obiwan, it was an example. CHEE Himself said they can be used to compare characters, whether they are non canon or canon. The fact that Ragnos has more abilities than lets say Luke does not mean he can defeat him in combat.. Understand?

Chee can say whatever he wants. the holocron lists N-canon as non-canon. Meaning they're non-canon. Not 'S', not C, N.

Meaning they cannot be used whatsoever, meaning they mean NOTHING. And the Holocron, officially created by LFL to keep track of canon, trumps any discussion. End. Of. Story

Yes, the stats are a comparison, but then again - if Vader's stats trump Exar Kun's...then what of it? Am I personally to believe that Darth friggin' Vader, who Lucas referred to as a "half crippled droid" is better than Exar Kun, the single most powerful Force of the Old Republic days?

Answer: Hell no.

Thus stats cannot be an acceptable form of an argument. The stories/character description's clearly have some facts behind them, and aren't based on stuff like "HP and l33t magick skillz". As I told you before, I personally don't believe in using stats for that very reason; also I didn't realize Vader > Kun according to the statbooks lol.

Originally posted by Motoko Sama
Yes, the stats are a comparison, but then again - if Vader's stats trump Exar Kun's...then what of it? Am I personally to believe that Darth friggin' Vader, who Lucas referred to as a "half crippled droid" is better than Exar Kun, the single most powerful Force of the Old Republic days?

Answer: Hell no.

Thus stats cannot be an acceptable form of an argument. The stories/character description's clearly have some facts behind them, and aren't based on stuff like "HP and l33t magick skillz". As I told you before, I personally don't believe in using stats for that very reason; also I didn't realize Vader > Kun according to the statbooks lol.

Yea neither did I sama, I suppose that's right but I would consider the stats ideal for measuring character x and character y, and considering they don't contradict anything then why not? Lightsnake seems to get really mad about this, I'm just trying to show an example. And putting Vader>Kun is like putting Yoda>ragnos.. Apparently there's more appeal to the movies and books than to TOTJ but that's fine.

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
You still haven't answered my questions, and the insults belong mostly to you personally attacking me(which I find humorous).

And overlord, please don't post if you have nothing intelligent to add, which you apparently don't. Apparently you can't comprehend the concept of a debate, since to you, ambiguous text and trolling around with bullshit>questioning logic.. But im glad your opinion means so much to you.

Yeah, be glad my opinion means so much to me.. Hmm.. That didn't make any sense at all, I think I shouldn't be talking to you anymore.. 🏴‍☠️

Actually I was stating that your opinion was irrelevant to anybody but you, but it's so nice that you prove my little bit about stupidity..

Too bad the canon doesn't care about what you consider ideal

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
Actually I was stating that your opinion was irrelevant to anybody but you, but it's so nice that you prove my little bit about stupidity..
Please, just stop talking to me, little kid. Calling everybody on the boards stupid constantly isn't going to raise credibility for yourself.

I know you're just in it for the reaction but just don't.. okay?

Lightsnake, calm down it's just a star wars debate. I've never seen anyone get as heated as you. I already know stats aren' Canon, hence why I said it was my opinion. Please learn how to read before getting angry in a star wars debate.

Originally posted by overlord
Please, just stop talking to me, little kid. Calling everybody on the boards stupid constantly isn't going to raise credibility for yourself.

If I recall correctly, it was you who started posting to me, and it is you who keeps responding.. So who's the clown here? Kid...

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
If I recall correctly, it was you who started posting to me, and it is you who keeps responding.. So who's the clown here? Kid...
I thought I might aid GM Nebaris a bit since I was tired of his whining about his genius and his discovery and I came to conclusions that you indeed are very similar to tdtd, it doesn't mean anything to me really. But you may get over the fact that a bunch of people have this suspicions.

And OH NOES!!! I KEEP RESPONDING TO YOUR COMMENTS DIRECTED AT ME WHICH ARE COVERED WITH PETTY ATTEMPTS AT INSULTING, WHY.. I MUST BE A CLOWN THEREFORE! DERRRR...

Make sense or stop talking to me yourself. sleepy

Make sense? Do you even understand what you are typing? Is there a reason why you are wasting text by responding back to me? DERRR DERR! NO really good comeback Carlos Mencia... Troll would be the proper term.. Oh and let me save you the question of why I'm calling you a troll..
Coming into this thread, offering nothing but bullshit insults that are humorous at best..

Haha, that's funny coming from a kid who's only way of defending is calling everybody unintelligent and blablabla.. I don't care.. sleepy

You bore me incredibly, I would never troll for attention of people like you. I just came to help this annoying GM Nebaris a bit.

Yes a kid...That's nice LOL.. Wait.. DERRRR! I'm glad I bore you, hence your unintelligent and constant responses to my posts.. Now use common sense for a minute.. You don't troll but you come around helping Nebaris with the insults? Please consult your dictionary for the meaning of troll before responding with yet another ridiculous post.

Yeah.. whatever..

So, do you think Nebaris is a sock? He's been for just a week or so and knows the full history of the versus forum and it's people. As for me, I just like to communicate with people, I don't contribute much anymore these days.
And the crowd at the off topic forum is horribly retarded.