Originally posted by grey fox
He drained Ultrons energy source out of his body THROUGH THE ADAMANTIUM . Barriers don’t matter.
Ultron is one thing. But again, like I said before, Magic has no control over Quasar's Constructs/Energy. Here's a little reminder:
Fortunately, magicians have no control over the energies he manipulates so he should be able to slam an energy construct through a mystical shield of Seraphim, for instance.
A link to the source of that info:
http://www.quantumzone.org/behind_the_scenes/everything_quantum-bands.html
What is Thor's base of power? Uhhh... I dont know... Magic maybe! 😱 Not that hard to figure it out.
Also what's this about Thor trying to absorb all kinds of different energies at once? I mean who does Thor think he is? Does Thor think he's Quasar?
I mean where was Thor during the Maximum Security Crossover? Getting tossed around by an uber version of Ronan. Where was Quasar? Siphoning Ego and the Ego Spores into the Quantum Bands.
Originally posted by grey fox
Thor-#354, Thor was toying with Hela using speed that was beyond her comprehension.
Yep.. Thor's break neck speed:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/Thor_44718.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/Thor_44801.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/Thor_44803.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/Thor_44804.jpg
Another example of Thor's break neck speed:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/thor391142xp.jpg
😆 Seriously. When it comes to speed,
Hyperion > Spider-Man/Mongoose = Thorbustered Thor...
Originally posted by grey fox
EMP beams are ether ...A. Absorbed by Thors hammer/B]
You'll be to busy fighting for your life against Hyperion to even think about draining anything. Plus it'll be dark thanks to Ray II. Can Thor see in the dark easily like Hyperion?
[i]Originally posted by grey fox
[B]He states no taking them over , attacking them is part of it but taking people over is still a no- no . Man you guy's just LOVE breaking the rules don’t you ?
While were on the subject of breaking rules... I should address the fact that you guys tried the power amping during prep.
How bout you trying to take over Ronan's armor with Cyborg Superman's consciousness? Wouldn't that be against the rules? I doubt you would even come close enough to Ronan for that. Accel's just returning the favor.
Now... Onto to more reasons why my team will pull off the victory.
Psyquis thinks Ray II can do all these things Quasar can without providing a single scan of proof. Unlike me and Accel, we have provided proof and scans backing nearly everything we say.
More reasons why Quasar is superior to Ray II:
1. The main thing is experience. Quasar has been fighting cosmic powerhouses and god like beings like Thor and such on a more frequent basis that Ray II. Maelstrom, Thanos, Silver Surfer, Magus, Adam Warlock, Mordred The Mystic, Phoenix Endowed Rachel Summers, Thor, etc...
2. It says specifically in his bio that Ray II needs SOLAR ENERGY to do all these things Psyquis is claiming. But seeing as were trapped in a titanium ball the size of the sun, I don't see how he's able to absorb this energy. Also, I'm pretty sure Quasar's Quantum energy signature falls within the Electromagnetic Spectrum, but I am pretty sure that it's energy frequency is not the same as Solar Energy. I don't think Ray II will be able to absorb any type of energy blasts coming from Quasar. I could be wrong though. That's why I request scans as proof.
I mean, I have provided scans of Quasar absorbing all types of different energy sources. Here are a few to remind our judges and our audience on what Quasar can do.
Absorbing Energy
Firelord's energy:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/vsfl1.jpg
Jack Of Hearts Energy:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/jack1.jpg
The Living Laser(Practically sucked him up into his Q-Bands)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/vslaser.jpg
Draining Energy off of someone who was draining him:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/vsstardust.jpg
Her's Cosmic Energy:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/vskismet.jpg
Solar Energy:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/ttpps0931db.jpg
and here:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/vortex1.jpg
Redirecting Energy
Redirecting Binary's energy:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/vsbinary.jpg
Redirecting Surfer's Power cosmic back towards him:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/quasar050375su.jpg
Redirecting Phoenix's blast and altering it, towards Mordred The Mystic:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/vsphoenix1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/vsphoenix2.jpg
Just by taking a look at the caliber of opponents Quasar has fought and compare it to Ray II's caliber of opponents.
I mean Dr. Polaris is powerful and all, but he was an idiot in Ray #4 In A Blaze Of Power Mini. He was summoning a tornadoes at sea while he zapped himself with his own lightning. 😆 What an idiot. I mean Ray II has never beaten the likes of Hal. He may have gave him a good fight, but he lost in the end. He also talked to a Light God who was gonna destroy the earth... Oooohhh... Scary... Quasar has battled countless Galactic level beings. Beings like Deathurge, The Starblasters, Squadron Supreme, The Imperial Guard, Etc... Heck, he even battled Maelstrom who had been empowered by Oblivion.
Ray II is just an inexperienced kid who has the ability to absorb and manipulate solar energy.
Quasar is an EX-Shield Agent with a direct link to the source of all cosmic awareness in Marvel and is charged with the responsibility of protecting the universe. Heck, he's the Godfather and protector of Epoch. He can manipulate and control all types of energy along the Electromagnetic Spectrum. He has yet to tap the full potential of the Q-bands which granted his predecessors Superhuman strength, stamina, and durability. C'mon...
How is Ray II gonna actually beat Quasar again? I mean, Psyquis has a plan for Ray II. He thinks Ray II can stalemate Quasar long enough for his teammates to get the win over their respective opponents. Which won't be the case. Ray II will fall quickly against Quasar. Cyborg Supes and Thor will then be on their own against my trio.
I mean according to GF, Cyborg Supes is ditching his nearly invulnerable body to go into steam machines which unfortunately is titanium. See:
Originally posted by grey fox
Cyborg has left his body , entered the various steam machines and manipulated them to block out the opposing teams vision (Ie spraying scalding hot scheme at their faces). He's also made several humanoid constructs out of the titanium , and then set's up a form of limited control through his own body (AKA we have constructs now 😈
Now with that said, and Ray II has been taken care of by Quasar, Quasar will then aid Hyperion against Thor if he hadn't already been Thorbustered. If Thor still has those shields up put there by Ray II, they'll be surely coming down now with Quasar there. With Ray II out of the picture, Quasar will have no trouble creating an energy vortex and draining all the energy from Ray II's shields. Leaving Thor and his supposed magical shields which will be breached by the Quantum Sword Hyperion's wielding. I mean blast of lightning will probably affect Quasar's constructs possibly bypassing them, but the pendulum swings both ways. Quasar's Quantum Energy will easily bypass Thor's supposed shields.
Now Thor's out of the way, and Ray II in la la land, Cyborg Superman will easily be taken care off. I mean, He is part Superman who is empowered by solar energy. Quasar could do what Triumph was doing to Superman here:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/siphonenergy.jpg
I mean with all that solar energy tossed at Quasar when battling Ray II, how easy would it be for Quasar to absorb all the solar energy in Cyborg Superman's cells? I mean, his body will be sitting there lifeless without his consciousness in it due to GF making him go into Titanium of all things. While Hyperion is taking apart the Titanium Ball, Quasar BFR's Cyborg's body into the Quantum zone. With the Titanium Ball gone, and torn to shreds, and Cyborg Superman's consciousness floating around looking for something to inhabit, and his physical body trapped in the Quantum zone, me and Accel have practically won this match.
Quasar >>> Ray II
Ray II is the weak link. I've argued a number of different ways that Quasar can take out Ray II. I've also posted scans that backs up nearly everything I've said Quasar can do to Ray II. My other teammates are powerhouses in their own right.
Originally posted by grey fox
Lightening , fire , ice etc have many different frequencies . He's absorbing them from COUNTLESS gods and goddesses
Also, keep in mind that if he tried to absorb ALL energies, he could very well affect his teammates as well.
Originally posted by grey fox
Oh you mean ram himself into my shield and kill himself , the drain sucked his solar energy clean out of him . He just pulled a zod .Or if your still not understanding what I'm getting at..... here
Replace the car with Hyperion and the wall with Thors forcefield.
Originally posted by grey fox
So basically ramming himself at top speed into a shield which has contained blasts that can destroy the planet earth and one filth of the marvel universe ?
Originally posted by grey fox
Yes he can teleport....with his weapon , which coincidently enough has been taken over by Cyborg and within milliseconds Ronan’s dead. Disintegrated or just 'Nightcrawlered'. You and your team mate must have selective blindness
And you forget that if Cyborg Superman tries such a tactic, he'll be in for a rude awakening when he comes in contact with the stasis field (which wasn't absorbed OR reversed because Thor was either too busy holding his shields or getting his hammer knocked out of his hands by Hyperion).
http://img138.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc146&image=13694_bbowne.jpg
Not too mention that Ronan will already have negated his power before he could get the chance to do any thing.
http://img139.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc74&image=13997_gstorm2.jpg
So much for being "Nightcrawlered"...
Originally posted by grey fox
So you keep on mentioning Gladiator , whom if i'm not mistaken had his ass handed to him by Thor in my last post not only that but lets see...http://img299.imageshack.us/my.php...speed0050lh.jpg
Or one of his earlier feats
http://img394.imageshack.us/my.php...peed0034wq.jpg
Thor-#354, Thor was toying with Hela using speed that was beyond her comprehension.
Now, remember how Gladiator did when there WEREN'T any distractions?
http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/6044/vsglads1g0ra5pe.jpg
(just replace Glads with Hyperion and imagine that Thro was trying to absorb his energy and you get the picture)
The links won't work for me (dunno if any one else has that problem), so I don't know what you're trying to show me, but in Thor #354, Hela wasn't really a speed-demon in that issue. She was pretty much crawling around trying to touch Thor, who kept jumping around her. Even if he's moving at those speeds, Hyperions can still easily tag him long enough to knock the hammer out of his hands.
Originally posted by grey fox
Let's see , you continue pushing the fact that you have an eternal on your team your using time manipulation and your ignoring my posts'BAN THEM !
Trying to ban our characters isn't the best way to debate, I'm afraid.
Originally posted by grey fox
Kinda hard when your molecules or fused within a wall
Originally posted by grey fox
EMP beams are ether ...A. Absorbed by Thors hammer
B. Unable to use them as Cyborg has already used the Cosmi rod to 'port' you into a wall / disintegrate you
Originally posted by grey fox
Again your dead .
Originally posted by grey fox
He states no taking them over , attacking them is part of it but taking people over is still a no- no . Man you guy's just LOVE breaking the rules don’t you ?
Any way, even if that's not allowed, there are still other options for Ronan to use once Cyborg has been negated- EMP beams, absolute zero, make him explode, blasting him with a searing ray, drain his power, etc. He's done all of these in the past as well.
Originally posted by Adam Warlock
Ultron is one thing. But again, like I said before, Magic has no control over Quasar's Constructs/Energy. Here's a little reminder:A link to the source of that info:
Let's see , his attacks are on some variation of the electro magnetic spectrum . Ergo Thor can absorb the . Secondly why the hell should I believe him , he's not an official writer or developer from Marvel he also states in big-ass letters at the top of his page UNOFFICIAL QUASAR SITE
Originally posted by Adam Warlock
What is Thor's base of power? Uhhh... I dont know... Magic maybe! 😱 Not that hard to figure it out.
Yup , but if were going by your site which is UNOFFICIALLY WRITTEN then I STILL pwn quasar with Thor.
He cannot absorb it, he cannot resist it. Magic can bind him, magicians can even take over his mind. A bolt of magic will penetrate his force field. However, an enchanted physical object will only be as strong as the object itself would otherwise be: while his forcefield could resist an adamantium blade, the Black Knight's magical ebony blade would be able to slice through Quasar's best quantum shield like tissue
Originally posted by Adam Warlock
Also what's this about Thor trying to absorb all kinds of different energies at once? I mean who does Thor think he is? Does Thor think he's Quasar?
No , Thor doesn't believe he's some reverso green lantern rip-off
Originally posted by Adam Warlock
I mean where was Thor during the Maximum Security Crossover? Getting tossed around by an uber version of Ronan. Where was Quasar? Siphoning Ego and the Ego Spores into the Quantum Bands.
..And where was Thor in Thor#133 ...oh yeah making Ego shit himself in fear at the prospect at being bested again
But why take my word for it , once again listen to the wise words of ego as he gets bested by The God Of Thunder himself
http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/8516/thorbeatsego5fr.jpg
Oh and before you try any 'but Quasar absorbed Ego AND a spore' that little planetoid your so proud to keep mentioning was getting manhandled by a few hundred magicians , The F4 , Iron Man and Silver Surfer before you absorbed him
Originally posted by Adam Warlock
Yep.. Thor's break neck speed:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/Thor_44718.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/Thor_44801.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/Thor_44803.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/Thor_44804.jpgAnother example of Thor's break neck speed:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/thor391142xp.jpg
Have we noticed a trend here , MASTERSON THOR sucks , Normal Thor gets beaten by shitty writing.
Originally posted by Adam Warlock
You'll be to busy fighting for your life against Hyperion to even think about draining anything. Plus it'll be dark thanks to Ray II. Can Thor see in the dark easily like Hyperion?
Don’t need to , Super hearing helps immensely (Thor-#342) oh and that nifty little 'Energy Tracking trick your so proud of , guess who he stole it from ? Yup that’s right Thor can track energy signal with ease (Thor Corps-#1, Avengers-#309, and Strange Tales-#182)
Originally posted by Adam Warlock
While were on the subject of breaking rules... I should address the fact that you guys tried the power amping during prep.
……In our last fight which has no implications on this fight , so stop trying divert the fact that you were and still are trying to cheat .
Originally posted by Adam Warlock
How bout you trying to take over Ronan's armour with Cyborg Superman's consciousness? Wouldn't that be against the rules? I doubt you would even come close enough to Ronan for that. Accel's just returning the favour.
Nah , you see that's Cyberpathy , his armour isn't sentient neither are his weapons . Characters on the other hand....
Originally posted by Adam Warlock
I mean according to GF, Cyborg Supes is ditching his nearly invulnerable body to go into steam machines which unfortunately is titanium.
...and then i changed my plan , once again your blind have you ever considered seeing an optician
Originally posted by Adam Warlock
Now with that said, and Ray II has been taken care of by Quasar, Quasar will then aid Hyperion against Thor if he hadn't already been Thorbustered.
What you mean the chrome dome who is
A. Drained of Solar energy
B. Crashed head first into my INCREDIBLY durable shield
Originally posted by Adam Warlock
If Thor still has those shields up put there by Ray II, they'll be surely coming down now with Quasar there.
Quasars shields aren't necessary , They help slightly but aren't necessary.
Originally posted by Adam Warlock
Leaving Thor and his supposed magical shields which will be breached by the Quantum Sword Hyperion's wielding.
Unless this 'Quantum sword' can do more then destroy a 'fifth of the Marvel universe' or ’destroy the marvel earth’ it's not getting through
Originally posted by Adam Warlock
I mean blast of lightning will probably affect Quasar's constructs possibly bypassing them, but the pendulum swings both ways. Quasar's Quantum Energy will easily bypass Thor's supposed shields.
Uhh no , Thor’s lightening will KILL Quasar . He's a human using Tools your own 'Unofficial source' stated that Magic tears through him like a hot knife through butter . I also posted a scan where a SINGLE bolt of lightening caused feedback which ended all of Quasars constructs
Originally posted by Adam Warlock
Now Thor's out of the way, and Ray II in la la land, Cyborg Superman will easily be taken care off.
Thor's still alive , not too sure about Ray though . He's Psy's forte . Oh and 'How easily' do you say. Because if those nifty little Q-Bands are as machine like as you say then I see no problem with Henshaw taking them for a joy ride .
Originally posted by Adam Warlock
I mean, He is part Superman who is empowered by solar energy. Quasar could do what Triumph was doing to Superman here:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/siphonenergy.jpg
But then he's part machine as well , and Thor could quite easily re-charge him if necessary
Originally posted by Adam Warlock
I mean with all that solar energy tossed at Quasar when battling Ray II, how easy would it be for Quasar to absorb all the solar energy in Cyborg Superman's cells?
1. Ray can shoot energy OTHER then Solar
2. Again he's a machine , Solar isn't his only power source
Originally posted by Adam Warlock
I mean, his body will be sitting there lifeless without his consciousness in it due to GF making him go into Titanium of all things.
I dont HAVE to go titanium , it's optional
Originally posted by Adam Warlock
While Hyperion is taking apart the Titanium Ball, Quasar BFR's Cyborg's body into the Quantum zone.
11. BFR (Battlefield Removal) is acceptable if it is by normal means, and doesn’t include teleportation to remove your opponents or dimension-traveling, or similarly banned things
How many rules have you guy's broken now , is it five or six ?
Originally posted by Adam Warlock
With the Titanium Ball gone, and torn to shreds, and Cyborg Superman's consciousness floating around looking for something to inhabit, and his physical body trapped in the Quantum zone, me and Accel have practically won this match.
Hmm let's see you've ignored my posts , gone with my old posts and not my new ones and broken the rules quite a few times. If you count this as winning then I'd prefer losing 'My Way' then winning 'Your Way'
Okay. A lot has been posted since I was last here and try as I might I can’t fit in a quote with every one of my answers so I’m going to try to handle everything here.
1.) Lack of Scans – You’ve got me there. I can’t really give you any scans due to my lack of a scanner and the Ray’s unpopularity. I assure you that everything I’ve said I’ve based off of fact, not assumption. You might say where I get my facts from. I get them from the Ray’s comic books and the DC Encyclopedia. If the DC Encyclopedia isn’t canon…then that’s just weird, but it doesn’t alter and it has a good description of his powers. If the judges wish to penalize me for my character’s unpopularity that’s their call; I won’t hold it against them. For now all I can offer you is page 254 of your DC Encyclopedia and these web-sites:
a. http://members.fortunecity.com/theray/The_Ray__In_a/TheRayHomePagx.html
b. http://members.tripod.com/sawol/ray.html
c. http://www.dcindexes.com/database/character-details.php?storycharid=188
d. http://spider-bob.com/heroes/dc/RayII.htm
e. http://www.mykey3000.com/cosmicteams/profiles/rays.htm
f. http://www.adamarnold.net/forgottenheroes/wwpostcrisiscast.html#ray
2.) Enemy Comparison – Yes Quasar has fought a lot of villains who are very famous and very dangerous. Yes even some super heroes. All that proves is that writers give a damn about Quasar and are apparently uninterested in the Ray. Even though the Ray hasn’t had as many battles or as many books, he still has fought an impressive set of heroes and villains including: Dr. Polaris, Eclipso, Vandal Savage, Batman, Hal Jordan, Obsidian and more.
3.) Experience – No the Ray is not as experienced as Quasar, but that doesn’t make him inexperienced or under equipped for the task at hand. In his short career the Ray has been a member of the Young Justice, Teen Titans, JSA, Freedom Force, JLA and the Extreme JLA that was founded by Martian Manhunter. He was trained by his father (who had the same powers) and Martian Manhunter.
4.) Powers – The Ray is partially made of solar energy. So, yes he does need solar energy; but he can also absorb electricity and heat. The Ray won’t be able to soak up any excess solar energy when he’s in there but he takes with him a healthy dose. Then all he needs to do is get shot by some lightening (cough cough Thor) and he’s right on top of his game. Not only is he powered by these but he can manipulate ANY kind of energy and ANY matter. So that means your armor is about as worthless as a porcupine in a balloon factory. Not to say Quasar can’t take a hit, but I am saying he’s going to have to. Of course the only restrictions to this are the Ray’s ability to concentrate and the amount of power it takes to perform said action. This is where we get to your vortex. That nice big energy vacuum is drawing all the energy into one point. The Ray can possibly shut down the vortex or he could just absorb enough energy until he can withstand the vortex indefinitely. Now why would the Ray be able to withstand the vortex? It’s another game of energy manipulator vs. energy manipulator. It sucks and I stay. The Ray has control of his energy and he can turn energy into the energy types he needs in order to maintain his condition. In the end the vortex will not succeed in doing anything. The color black is partially resistant to the Ray’s power but even it gives in after time. If you want to know the extent of the Ray’s matter manipulation abilities I’ll let you know this: his helmet and outfits are just an after-thought and take very little energy to create.
5.) Blinding Quasar – I saw the armor. It’s nice. Covers you from head to foot, but what’s to keep me from creating light inside that nice little outfit of yours? Granted there is a margin for error there but the closer you get the easier it is for me to do. Also I could just open your armor up once in a while to give you a surprise shot, if you like.
6.) Flight Maneuverability – That field of darkness I created is placed solely upon your person. Not me or my teammates. You looked into it too much. Consider it your own private bubble of total darkness. There’s also the case of all the debris floating around. Your Q-bands can sense energy readings but that won’t help you fight me. Not with Cyborg’s little distractions all over the place and my hard constructs obstructing your path. This gives me free reign to buzz around you and blast you as I feel it’s necessary.
7.) Force Fields – are up and reinforced by Thor’s magic.
8.) Adam Warlock and Accel – are good guys that know how to debate. I don’t want to fight their team anymore.
9.) Rule Breaking – I thought that I apologized for breaking the rules with that powering up Cyborg Superman thing a while back but I might have missed it. Sorry.
10.) Powering Up Cyborg – I do it immediately after placing my hard constructs in your path, and in case you’re curious the Ray has experience in doing this. Check the latest issues of Superman.
11.) Hyperion is a boob! – I just felt like saying it. I don’t really mean anything by it.
If I missed anything I’m sorry but I’m trying to conserve posts. I have a feeling I’ll need them.
This is my last and final post. GF and Psyquis you guys were great opponents. It's time to end this.
Exiles Hyperion:
This is the man who will be taking the God Of Thunder down. This is a man who can actually achieve break neck speeds Unlike Thor who needs his hammer to attain such speeds. I mean, Thor can achieve the speed of light during flight, but his speed without the hammer is dismal compared to Hyperion's physical battle speed. Speed will be the deciding factor in this fight. Not just speed alone though. This is not the same Hyperion that has fought Thor before. No no no. This version is obviously much more experienced and much more more ruthless than his counterparts. Let me reiterate the fact this Hyperion has already dealt with his realities version of super heroes and villains. This man practically wiped everyone out. His version of Thor included. He says so himself:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/exiles045page10image00012aa.jpg
At the least, this version of Hyperion with his Quantum Armor/Sword, and Ronan's stasis field will at least keep the Thunder God busy long enough for Quasar to finish off Ray II.
Quasar:
Where do I start with Ray II. How is Ray II gonna beat Quasar again? Quasar can do everything Ray II can do and then some. He is more powerful, more experienced, and certainly a much better choice than Ray II was. Quasar has access to crucial information pertaining to pretty much everything in the Marvel Universe(Cosmic Awareness) thanks to his connection to his Cosmic God Daughter Epoch.
Who does Ray II go to for help? His dad? cousin?
Let's go over the things Quasar can do better than Ray II.
The strength of Quasar's Constructs:
I've posted these before, but I'll repost them again. As you can see, the Entire Shia'r Imperial Guard, and the mass of Earth's heroes could not breach his constructs:
Imperial Guard:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/quasar032126xd.jpg
Earth's Heroes:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/field.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/field2.jpg
As you can see, in those two scans directly above, if you look closely, you can see Thor's Mjolnir bouncing off Quasar's construct in addition to everything else being fired at it. Jean Grey's Psionic energy doesn't seem to be getting through his constructs as well. It seems you are right about that Unofficial Quasar sight being wrong GF. As you can see, the Mjolnir had no affect on Quasar's construct as well as Jean's Grey's psionic energy had no affect on Quasar's constructs while the Internet site in question vehemently said both types of attacks would easily penetrate Quasar's Constructs. So all that stuff about Magic weapons like Black Knight's Sword or Thor's Mjolnir tearing apart Quasar's constructs is practically tossed out the window. Psionic energy seems to not have any affect against it as well.
Thanks GF for helping me with that.
Quasar's constructs > Thor Mjolnir > Jean Grey psionic Energy
2. Quasar has the best energy absorption skills in this tourney.
Totally draining an energy manipulator who was trying to drain him:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/vsstardust.jpg
Draining Warlock of his cosmic energy:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/vswarlock.jpg
Draining Eho and the Ego spores while great and powerful Silver Surfer could not:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/maximumsecurity3291nq.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/maximumsecurity3352jq.jpg
In actuality this is what probably would happen to Ray II battling Quasar:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/jack1.jpg
or this:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/ttpps0931db.jpg
In the scan directly above, you see how Quasar attuned his Q-Bands to follow his opponents energy trail. Ray II will be a lot easier to track the way Psyquis has argued for Ray II.
Quasar against impossible odds:
I mean, in Quasar issues #26 & #27, Thanos created 4 very powerful beings that battled Quasar at Eon's funeral. 4 previous wearers of the Quantum Bands each sporting 4 exact duplicates of the Quantum Bands. All were created with their previous minds intact. Each instilled with burning hatred for Quasar. All were practically defeated by Quasar at the same time.
Here's a link describing the Quantum Banders he battled:
http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/quantumb.htm
Quasar battling and holding his own against Mordred The Mystic and the Phoenix Endowed Rachel Summers and eventually getting the better of both:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/vsphoenix1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/vsphoenix2.jpg
Battling a frustrated and angry Watcher who was angry that ten of his kind had been killed:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/quasar150139xy.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/quasar150140jg.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/quasar150171cq.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/quasar150185fi.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/quasar150195up.jpg
You can also see how the Watcher turned into a pulse of energy seemingly close to what Psyquis is trying to do with Ray II. Only thing, Psyquis is arguing that Ray II will fly around and play keep away from Quasar. Shoot energy blasts at him to buy his teammates some time hoping his other compatriots are having better luck with their opponents than he is.
In the Quasar VS. Watcher scans above, you can see how Quasar locked onto his energy signature and practically forced the Watcher to materialize due to the amount of energy he was pouring onto the Watcher.
I have no doubt that what Psyquis is saying about Ray II is %100 percent true. But with him having a sort of obscure character gives him a slight advantage when it comes to what that character can or cannot do.
But without evidence supporting his claims, I'm sad to say he has not proved Ray II can take on someone like Quasar. Ray II is powerful. This kid might be able to give good fights against powerful villains like Magneto and Dr. Polaris. But fortunately for me, Quasar is on another level. And I proved it.
As for Cyborg Superman, I have total faith in my partner. Ronan will prove to be much more than Cyborg Superman can handle. If not, Ronan can at least stalemate him until Quasar finishes Ray II off quickly and decsively and Quasar is able to lend a helping hand.
Closing arguments
I'm have to cut this post a little short due to the fact I have to get up in 3 hours and drive to Sacramento which takes about 2 hours to get to.
I have proved that Quasar is > than Ray II and Quasar is the heavy favorite that will be coming out on top.
I have also proved in previous posts that Hyperion can at the very least, stalemate Thor, possibly even Thorbuster him:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/jlavengers2383ws.jpg
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I have made GF think twice about him leaving his nearly invulnerable body to go into titanium steam machines.
Again, I'd like to say good luck to my opponents GF and Psyquis. May the best team win.
Good luck to Accel as well. You've pretty much got Cyborg Superman all taken care of. Post away Accel.
We win!!!
Originally posted by grey fox
..And where was Thor in Thor#133 ...oh yeah making Ego shit himself in fear at the prospect at being bested againBut why take my word for it , once again listen to the wise words of ego as he gets bested by The God Of Thunder himself
http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/...beatsego5fr.jpg
Oh and before you try any 'but Quasar absorbed Ego AND a spore' that little planetoid your so proud to keep mentioning was getting manhandled by a few hundred magicians , The F4 , Iron Man and Silver Surfer before you absorbed him
Originally posted by grey fox
Have we noticed a trend here , MASTERSON THOR sucks , Normal Thor gets beaten by shitty writing.
Plus, it's not like Thor was EVER portrayed as possessing reflexes comparable with those required to hit someone coming at him at Mach 7. He'll be too busy trying absorb very thing to actually even try to hit Hyperion and since his shields will also be down, he'll leave himself extremely vulnerable to Hyperion's assault.
Originally posted by grey fox
Don’t need to , Super hearing helps immensely (Thor-#342) oh and that nifty little 'Energy Tracking trick your so proud of , guess who he stole it from ? Yup that’s right Thor can track energy signal with ease (Thor Corps-#1, Avengers-#309, and Strange Tales-#182)
Originally posted by grey fox
……In our last fight which has no implications on this fight , so stop trying divert the fact that you were and still are trying to cheat .
Originally posted by grey fox
...and then i changed my plan , once again your blind have you ever considered seeing an optician
Originally posted by grey fox
What you mean the chrome dome who isA. Drained of Solar energy
B. Crashed head first into my INCREDIBLY durable shield
Originally posted by grey fox
Unless this 'Quantum sword' can do more then destroy a 'fifth of the Marvel universe' or ’destroy the marvel earth’ it's not getting through
Originally posted by grey fox
Thor's still alive , not too sure about Ray though . He's Psy's forte . Oh and 'How easily' do you say. Because if those nifty little Q-Bands are as machine like as you say then I see no problem with Henshaw taking them for a joy ride .
Originally posted by grey fox
But then he's part machine as well , and Thor could quite easily re-charge him if necessary
Originally posted by grey fox
How many rules have you guy's broken now , is it five or six ?
SO LET'S GO OVER THESE SCENARIOS ONCE MORE...
1. Thor tries to absorb all energy frequencies at once, while at the same time trying to provide shields for himself and his teammates. Since he can't utilize more than power out of Mjolnir at once, his shields will drop once he tries to absorb all energies(running the risk of absorbing the energies form his teammates as well), leaving his teammates and himself vulnerable once more. Thus, Hyperion is then able to charge in and knock the hammer out of his hands before he can full complete his motive.
Meanwhile, Cyborg Superman tries to take over the titanium sphere in order to create constructs, but wait. What's this? Ronan has already negated his power...
http://img139.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc74&image=13997_gstorm2.jpg
...and has either blasted him with EMP beams...
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...or stuck his Mannequin on him.
http://img16.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc277&image=12923_realf10.jpg
The Cyborg threat has been eliminated.
2. Thor continues to hold up a 'big ass shield' completely covering his team. Unfortunately for him, he can't do any thing offensively, or his shields will drop. Cyborg uses the opportunity to try to take over Ronan's weapon and/or armor, but he meets a rude awakening when he comes in contact with the stasis field (which Thor didn't bother trying to absorb OR reverse because he's maintaining his shields).
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Ronan can simply teleport his teammates to the other side of the shield, with...
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...or without his weapon...
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where Hyperion can easily take out a distracted Thor, Ronan can destroy Cyborg's body and leave his consciousness floating, and Quasar can take care of Ray.
3. Thor doesn't bother putting up shields, but rather that duty goes to Ray. This allows Thor to finally use his other abilities. But wait, Ronan can still attack him through the shield with a temporal displacement bubble!
http://img135.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc72&image=13644_troom4.jpg
Cyborg is either busy getting owned by the stasis field after trying take control over someone on our team (remember, these protect every one on our team, including Hyperion and Quasar)
http://img138.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc146&image=13694_bbowne.jpg
...or he's too busy taking control of the environment to create almost completely useless constructs. Ronan causes Thor to age to death in seconds, then proceeds to destroy Cyborg's body, quickly turning this into three on one. Ouch.
4. Cyborg actually somehow succeeds in taking over Ronan's Cosmic Rod. Then what? Does he blast Ronan? Ronan's taken more punishment than simple cosmic blasts from his own weapon, so that's not going to do any thing. Ronan can then just make the weapon blow up like he does with this guy's hand...
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...and then proceed to recreate his universal weapon and destroy Cyborg's body.
Good work AW! It has been a pleasure battling you.
You’ve made good point for which you’ve supplied more than ample support via scans and basic information. There’s no denying that Quasar is a very powerful, very dangerous opponent, very possibly on herald level.
Now it’s my turn.
1.) One thing you failed to address from my previous post (I’m kind of sorry you didn’t, because I would really like to see what you have to say about it.), was the entire concept of the Ray opening a whole in your armor and frying you. Again the only way I could do that is through energy manipulation and if Quasar is sufficiently distracted, which IMO he is. What with all the hard constructs I’ve placed around you and the field of vision advantage I have. Regardless as to whether or not Cyborg Superman has any robot distractions walking around to distract you it should be enough to slow you down.
2.) Quasar has access to everything in the Marvel universe and I’m sorry to say but we aren’t in Marvel and I’m not a Marvel character. So Epoch is officially useless against me. Now maybe if you had shot Quasar after Thor, Epoch would have done more good.
3.) Nobody is refuting your energy absorption abilities. In Marvel you may very well be the best. However, your energy absorption abilities are going to do squat here. First of all your vortex is all but shut down or rendered obsolete by the Ray that and you aren’t going to get close enough to me to drain me the way you want to. It is said that the Ray needs solar energy to survive but he can also use electricity and heat for energy purposes. Technically I could drain your body of heat while you drain mine of energy. What happens to the human body once it’s drained of heat? It is also said that with what energy the Ray has he can manipulate any kind of energy and matter. That includes Quantum energy and armor. So open the doors and let the light shine in!
4.) The Ray is not going to an energy form. I’m releasing enough energy as is for you to keep track of, but you won’t materialize me like you did a Watcher. But if you want to materialize me by forcing a lot of energy into me then I welcome you to the tactic. That’s nothing short of powering me up.
5.) I’ve already addressed the lack of information on my character. I’m afraid there just isn’t anything I can do about that. I see you’ve decided to use it against me and I can’t blame you for it, but I’m not stretching the truth here. The Ray is more experienced now, and his power levels are much higher than what they were. The fact that he was needed as one of the components to Alexander Luthor’s battery should be proof enough of his power capacity. Also the last thing he did was give Superman a major sun-dip in order to help him regain his powers, and I’m certain you know how that went.
6.) Masterson Thor was not completely aware of his abilities. So it makes complete sense that despite them having the same powers he wouldn’t know the fullest extent of them.
7.) Thor does bother putting up shields because we SAID that’s what he does during prep. His shield is reinforced with the Ray’s. That’s too much for Ronan or Hyperion.
8.) The Ray has shut down Quasar’s vortex and burned a hole in his eyes by making a surprising hole in Quasar’s armor. That leaves him room to do what he wants with the other two. In case your curious here’s what the Ray does.
a. He goes to Thor’s side and allows himself to get hit by a few of Thor’s lightening bolts
b. He then hurries over to Cyborg Superman and lights him up with a major sun-dip.
c. He aids Cyborg against Ronan then heads over to kill Hyperion.
I’m terribly sorry, seriously, that you ran out of posts AW. That will make this a whole lot less interesting.
Originally posted by Accel
Those are all just forces of nature. And they're nothing like the energies he'll be dealing with here. What indicates that the "countless gods and goddesses" that Thor absorbed at once have different energy frequencies? What says he locked on to all sorts of energy signatures? Nothin' I tells ya.
Let's see fire, Ice, lightening , eldritch energies etc have all different wave lengths and vary energy signals. The way your describing it , it's as if a lump of ice has the same energy wavelength as a bolt of lightening
Originally posted by Accel
Also keep in mind that if he tried to absorb ALL energies he could very well affect his team mates as well
Originally posted by Accel
Unfortunately for Thor, since he'll be trying to absorb Hyperion's power, he won't be holding up a shield. He STILL needs to use his hammer for BOTH motives, so if he goes onto the offensive, his shields go kaput.
Once again no spinning here
http://img236.imageshack.us/my.php?image=forcefield0021vh.jpg
Doesn't even have the friggen HAMMER and is making a forcefield
http://img236.imageshack.us/my.php?image=forcefield0032tc.jpg
Originally posted by Accel
I already explained above that his shields won't be up as long as he's trying to absorb energy AND create a lightning storm
Originally posted by Accel
The shield that held the explosion was produced by Thor whirling his hammer around him This will only protect him while his teammates are attacked.
Originally posted by Accel
Ronan has teleported without the use of his weapon as well
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Originally posted by AccelOh you mean the same Hyperion who snapped his neck ? And the same stasis field which has a single showing (which is vague at best) or the same stasis field which I reversed making your characters attack magnets ?
And you forget that if Cyborg Superman tries, when he comes in contact with the stasis field (which wasn't absorbed /reversed because Thor was too busy holding his shields or getting his hammer knocked out of his hands by Hyperion).
http://img138.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc146&image=13694_bbowne.jpg
Originally posted by Accel
Not too mention that Ronan will already have negated his power before he could get the chance to do any thing http://img139.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc74&image=13997_gstorm2.jpg
Originally posted by Accel
Gladiator and Thor had to save a plane from falling and when they had succeeded Thor blasted Kallark while he was off guard It was Thor's battle due to that cheap shot.Now, remember how Gladiator did when there WEREN'T any distractions?
http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/6044/vsglads1g0ra5pe.jpg
Originally posted by Accel
The links won't work for me but in Thor #354, Hela wasn't really a speedster. She was pretty much crawling around trying to grab Thor, who kept dodging her Even if he's moving at those speeds, Hyperions can still easily tag him to knock the hammer out of his hands
Originally posted by Accel
What are you talking about? it's not like I'm time-traveling around or anything. I can just accelerate the aging process of an opponent, which isn't against the rules.
Your Manipulating Time which is against the rules.
Originally posted by Accel
Trying to ban characters isn't the best way to debate
Originally posted by Accel
Fortunately that won't be a problem for us as Cyborg Superman will either...
A. Be negated of his powers.
B. Have his power turned back against once he hits the stasis field.
Originally posted by Accel
The beams will have to hit Thor's hammer to be absorbed, which won't happen because he's either holding up shields, or getting the hammer smacked out of hi hands by Hyperion.
http://www.comicboards.com/comicbattles/attachments/051002234711/Thor-Absorb.jpg
The energy is not touching the hammer and Thors draining it. And all hyperion will be doing is killing himself.
Originally posted by Accel
Using telepathy to control the minds of an opponent to have him attack his teammates is against the rules, but my tactic involves neither telepathy nor betrayal. As long as I just command the Mannequin-controlled Cyborg to just sit still and not do any thing, it should still be allowed, I'll let the judges decide that.
Originally posted by Accel
Any way even if that's not allowed there are still other options for Ronan to use once Cyborg has been negated EMP beams, absolute zero, make him explode etc etc
Originally posted by Adam WarlockSo 186000 mps and higher isn’t very fast ?
.Hyperion is a man who can actually achieve break neck speeds
Originally posted by Adam Warlock
I mean Thor can achieve the speed of light during flight but his speed without the hammer is dismal
[i]Originally posted by Adam Warlock
This man wiped everyone out he says so himself http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/exiles045page10image00012aa.jpg
Originally posted by Adam Warlock
Hyperion with his Quantum Armor/Sword
Originally posted by Adam Warlock
Ronan's stasis field
Originally posted by Adam Warlock
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/field.jpgAs you can see, in those two scans above, if you look you can see Mjolnir bouncing off Quasar's construct in addition to everything else being fired at it. You can see, Mjolnir had no affect on Quasar's construct
He can however resist the effects of something imbued with kinetic energy--a thrown knife has kinetic energy, but if Q sees it coming he can put up a shield to stop the knife despite its kinetic force
Originally posted by Adam Warlock
In Quasar issues #26/#27, Thanos created 4 previous wearers of the Quantum Bands each sporting 4 exact duplicates of the Quantum Bands. All were created with their previous minds intact. Each instilled with hatred for Quasar. All were defeated by Quasar at the same time
Quasar quickly overpowered and knocked out the Marvel Boy duplicate, who was based on a wearer relatively naive to the full power of the Bands. Quasar had a much more difficult time with the other three, but he managed to use his own Bands to forcibly overload the Bands of impostors, causing explosions that destroyed them
Originally posted by Adam Warlock
.But without evidence supporting his claims he has not proven Ray can take on someone like Quasar
Originally posted by Adam WarlockPlease, a ‘alien Iron man’ versus a guy who gives Supes a run for his money.
Ronan will prove to be much more than Cyborg Superman can handle
I'm going to try to fit this in before I have to leave work. Here it goes.
The Ray's complete battle strategy.
1. Build force fields - using Thor's power set and my own.
2. Use molecular manipulation abilities to null any of Quasar's constructs - including sword, armor, vortexes, and wormholes.
3. Power up using a blast from Mjolnir - one shot is all I need
4. Roast Quasar with concentrated blasts of energy - Shouldn't be too hard to hit him sense he won't be moving all that fast.
5. Obstruct Quasar's flight path - I'd like to thank Cyborg Superman for his support in this by putting little robot blockers up all over the place and using my own hard constructs giving me ulitimate mobility and restricting his
6. Blinding Quasar - sure he can find me but it'll still hurt and possibly affect his aim
7. Powerup Cyborg - a little sundipping does him good
8. Wreak Havok - on everyone after I kill Quasar.
More to come
Originally posted by Psyquis52
6.) Masterson Thor was not completely aware of his abilities. So it makes complete sense that despite them having the same powers he wouldn’t know the fullest extent of them.
Originally posted by Psyquis52
7.) Thor does bother putting up shields because we SAID that’s what he does during prep. His shield is reinforced with the Ray’s. That’s too much for Ronan or Hyperion.
Originally posted by grey fox
Let's see fire, Ice, lightening , eldritch energies etc have all different wave lengths and vary energy signals. The way your describing it , it's as if a lump of ice has the same energy wavelength as a bolt of lightening
Originally posted by grey fox
Aim my friend , it's called AIM.
There are literally millions of different kinds of energies out in the universe, so how will Thor even know which energies to target or track?
Originally posted by grey fox
Lets see .....
His hammer still , no spinning here
http://img236.imageshack.us/my.php?...field0010tj.jpgOnce again no spinning here
http://img236.imageshack.us/my.php?...field0021vh.jpgDoesn't even have the friggen HAMMER and is making a forcefield
http://img236.imageshack.us/my.php?...field0032tc.jpg
Originally posted by grey fox
Dealt with it , they'll be up till the cows come home
Originally posted by grey fox
..and again I've proven his shields can appear/stay without him having to spin his hammer
Originally posted by grey fox
...by pressing a few buttons on his suit . Coincidentally enough HOW will Ronan even KNOW that his weapon is corrupted until it's to late. Not that it matters much because I could easily enter your suit and your weapon at the same time
Originally posted by grey fox
Oh you mean the same Hyperion who snapped his neck ? And the same stasis field which has a single showing (which is vague at best) or the same stasis field which I reversed making your characters attack magnets ?
Originally posted by grey fox
Well that scan has little to do with anything, all I see is Ronan blasting a chump and then a lightening guy getting turned back to normal....which wouldn't help against you getting 'Nightcrawlerd' in the slightest.
Originally posted by grey fox
A. Thor kicked glads ass even AFTER Galak got a cheap shot in , so he saved a plane so what ! he's Gladiator ; Mr 'I can rip stars apart with my bare hands' a plane shouldn't even phase him .
Originally posted by grey fox
So hyperion can tag lightening ?
Originally posted by grey fox
Your [B]Manipulating Time which is against the rules.[/B]
Originally posted by grey fox
How ? By a crappy 'blast' from Ronans boomstick. Hell no. Unfortunately enough you can't fire on something when said something is inhabiting your weapon
None of this matters, however, as Cyborg will never get past the stasis field.
Originally posted by grey fox
http://www.comicboards.com/comicbat...Thor-Absorb.jpg
The energy is not touching the hammer and Thors draining it. And all hyperion will be doing is killing himself.
There are different kinds of energies out there. If an energy comes in the form of a beam of light (like, say, heat vision), then Thor will need to absorb it by actually having it hit his hammer.
Originally posted by grey fox
Then let's, not that it matters much anyway as Ronan is already fused inside of a wall or disintegrated
Originally posted by grey fox
Which has had it’s polarity reversed , not that it matters since Ronan is already disintegrated or nightcrawlered
Originally posted by grey fox
Neither have you proven that Hyperion can kill Galactus…yet you continue to push the fact that he has.
Originally posted by grey fox
Please, a ‘alien Iron man’ versus a guy who gives Supes a run for his money.
