Top Emo band

Originally posted by Silverstein
All music is actually EMOtional

Hawthorne Heights are NOT freakin METAL, and they disgrace the current generation of 'emo' bands with their typical 'cut wrists/black eyes' lyrics. 90% of mainstream emo is crap.

some 'emo' bands of the current generation are:
-Taking Back Sunday (probably not labelled emo anymore)
-Silverstein (yes my kmc name, lost respect for them with their latest cd becoming so light and poppy)
-Funeral For A Friend

but nowadays most emo bands do not label themselves as 'emo' anymore: since all music is emotional.

i think it depends on where you live, whatever place you live, determines what is emo or not, here, here bands liek Silverstein and Hawthorne are emo.

It doesn't explicitly mean "Emotional", it originally meant "Emotive", first of all.

Secondly, yes, they are. Thirdly, there is no mainstream emo. Emo has been dead and buried for multiple years. It's only young kids like yourself that think it's not.

Funeral for a Friend are a metal band, they call themselves a metal band and here in the UK they are known and recognised as a metal band. This is why kids like you shouldn't touch the label gun.

Silverstein aren't emo, nor are Taking Back Sunday.

It doesn't matter where you live, kid. Facts are facts, you see. What matters is if you're stupid or not.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
It doesn't explicitly mean "Emotional", it originally meant "Emotive", first of all.

Secondly, yes, they are. Thirdly, there is no mainstream emo. Emo has been dead and buried for multiple years. It's only young kids like yourself that think it's not.

Funeral for a Friend are a metal band, they call themselves a metal band and here in the UK they are known and recognised as a metal band. This is why kids like you shouldn't touch the label gun.

Silverstein aren't emo, nor are Taking Back Sunday.

It doesn't matter where you live, kid. Facts are facts, you see. What matters is if you're stupid or not.

-AC

mainstream emo...weezer, dashboard confessional... OLD emo has been dead. but whatever, maybe the new 'emo' is actually just post hardcore, or a blend of genres actually.

Funeral for a Friend, in my opinion have become 'too light' to be called METAL of all things, the OLD 7waystoscreamname FFAF could be called Metal. I guess you're right 🙂 anyways, most bands today are a blend of genres. Combining Aspects of Emo/Metal/Hardcore/Grindcore/Indie/Rock/etc

then what is Silverstein?

lol dont call me kid cuz im not.

Originally posted by Silverstein
mainstream emo...weezer, dashboard confessional... OLD emo has been dead. but whatever, maybe the new 'emo' is actually just post hardcore, or a blend of genres actually.

Funeral for a Friend, in my opinion have become 'too light' to be called METAL of all things, the OLD 7waystoscreamname FFAF could be called Metal. I guess you're right 🙂 anyways, most bands today are a blend of genres. Combining Aspects of Emo/Metal/Hardcore/Grindcore/Indie/Rock/etc

then what is Silverstein?

lol dont call me kid cuz im not.

Dashboard Confessional may be considered "emo" by some in the sense that Chris Carraba did, or tried to do, what Jimmy Eat World did a while back. Hardly emo anymore though, nor would I ever call them/him such. That was modern emo, as opposed to original emo; Jimmy Eat World, Sunny Day Real Estate etc. Not Taking Back Sunday and Funeral for a Friend.

I'll skip over the fact that you called Weezer emo, because that's actually too pathetic.

Funeral for a Friend are a metal band, just a metal band. They might not be making metal as heavy, but it's still metal.

Also, all these 'cores (Grindcore, hardcore et al) are just pointless and deserve not to be recognised.

Contrary to your belief, most bands aren't a blend of genres, they're actually just generic products of one genre. Scene kids don't like having a couple of genres, though. They have to make many up.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Dashboard Confessional may be considered "emo" by some in the sense that Chris Carraba did, or tried to do, what Jimmy Eat World did a while back. Hardly emo anymore though, nor would I ever call them/him such. That was modern emo, as opposed to original emo; Jimmy Eat World, Sunny Day Real Estate etc. Not Taking Back Sunday and Funeral for a Friend.

I'll skip over the fact that you called Weezer emo, because that's actually too pathetic.

Funeral for a Friend are a metal band, just a metal band. They might not be making metal as heavy, but it's still metal.

Also, all these 'cores (Grindcore, hardcore et al) are just pointless and deserve not to be recognised.

Contrary to your belief, most bands aren't a blend of genres, they're actually just generic products of one genre. Scene kids don't like having a couple of genres, though. They have to make many up.

-AC

so there IS more than one kind of emo? a modern one and an olde school one huh.

grindcore & hardcore is not pointless, they both have unique audiences, not your average muchMusic Viewers.

being the average scene kid i am 🙄 i listen to more than one genre, and i do believe sub genres exist too. ive got Acoustic/Hardcore/Metalcore/Grindcore/Emocore/Emo/Indie/Rock/Post Hardcore/Ambience/Pop Punk as you can clearly see there are more than one genre, metalcore being metal+hardcore, emo+hardcore, made up or not, where i live, it means something to many people, not created by your little scene kids, but by musicians ages ranging from 17- your old age

some of its true, kids make up their own genres, like Electronicore, or Happycore, or Technocore, but what else would you call a blend of techno dance beats in a song that has breakdowns and is modelled to be hardcore?

As much as I'd hate to reenter this argument.... Alpha Centauri... dude...
the "core" genres are actually very defined. Metalcore sounds nothing like Grindcore sounds nothing like Metalcore.
You know, guys. We should start a thread about this!

we should lol, you do it.

Originally posted by Silverstein
so there IS more than one kind of emo? a modern one and an olde school one huh.

Not anymore, there was.

Originally posted by Silverstein
grindcore & hardcore is not pointless, they both have unique audiences, not your average muchMusic Viewers.

I didn't say the music was, I said the labels were.

Originally posted by Silverstein
being the average scene kid i am 🙄 i listen to more than one genre, and i do believe sub genres exist too. ive got Acoustic/Hardcore/Metalcore/Grindcore/Emocore/Emo/Indie/Rock/Post Hardcore/Ambience/Pop Punk as you can clearly see there are more than one genre, metalcore being metal+hardcore, emo+hardcore, made up or not, where i live, it means something to many people, not created by your little scene kids, but by musicians ages ranging from 17- your old age

I'm 20, kid. It's silly little teens that go around naming genres, as you prove. However, let me show how uninformed, uneducated and frankly, silly, you are:

1) Acoustic is not a genre, that's the stupidest thing I've heard on the subject. You should be ashamed.

2) Hardcore/Grindcore/Metalcore are stupid scene kid labels, made up because they don't know any better.

3) Emocore/Emo as different genres? Hahahahaha. Emocore is emo, you ignorant boy. Emotive hardcore, shortened to emocore, then to emo. Learn something, will you?

Originally posted by Silverstein
some of its true, kids make up their own genres, like Electronicore, or Happycore, or Technocore, but what else would you call a blend of techno dance beats in a song that has breakdowns and is modelled to be hardcore?

Why do you NEED to call it anything? You don't NEED to. Call it what it closely applies to, oh...I forget, kids don't do that. They just slap a name on to be cool.

Originally posted by Bardiel13
As much as I'd hate to reenter this argument.... Alpha Centauri... dude...
the "core" genres are actually very defined. Metalcore sounds nothing like Grindcore sounds nothing like Metalcore.
You know, guys. We should start a thread about this!

It's been done multiple times, and every time I've brought it to a close. Just a warning. You will have all the older, more sensible music fans, coming down on you like a load of bricks.

Second, I'm not saying the music made in the genres labelled with a "'core" are pointless, I'm saying the label itself is pointless.

You know nothing, either of you. It's sad.

-AC

Hey, since I'm such a hipster, I'm going to create a new meaningless genre. I'm going to call it CRYCORE with the leading band being My Chemical Romance. Crycore is going to be the next big thing in meaningless genres baby!!!

I bet if I put this on a bunch of band forums, Crycore would probably be legit to these people haha.

Nah, because it's a bit derogatory.

Gloomcore, maybe. Then they'd say "Yeah, cos it's gloomy.".

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Not anymore, there was.

I didn't say the music was, I said the labels were.

I'm 20, kid. It's silly little teens that go around naming genres, as you prove. However, let me show how uninformed, uneducated and frankly, silly, you are:

1) Acoustic is not a genre, that's the stupidest thing I've heard on the subject. You should be ashamed.

2) Hardcore/Grindcore/Metalcore are stupid scene kid labels, made up because they don't know any better.

3) Emocore/Emo as different genres? Hahahahaha. Emocore [b]is emo, you ignorant boy. Emotive hardcore, shortened to emocore, then to emo. Learn something, will you?

Why do you NEED to call it anything? You don't NEED to. Call it what it closely applies to, oh...I forget, kids don't do that. They just slap a name on to be cool.

It's been done multiple times, and every time I've brought it to a close. Just a warning. You will have all the older, more sensible music fans, coming down on you like a load of bricks.

Second, I'm not saying the music made in the genres labelled with a "'core" are pointless, I'm saying the label itself is pointless.

You know nothing, either of you. It's sad.

-AC [/B]

1)well its a genre to me, and thats what counts 😄

2) yeaaah, they're stupid alright, those darn kids 😉 and they had to be made up by somebody. im 17 by the way, is that still considered a kid? metalcore, grindcore and hardcore sound very different to eachother.

3) emo whatever emocore. i consider emocore as emo, but with breakdowns

4) we call techno+hardcore, technocore, rather than calling it techno-hardcore. Cuz the music is unique enough to have its own name, like Nintendocore. And Yes, its cool. What's more comforting than your peers saying you're cool? 😎

the only thing i dont like about old school and older music fans is that they disregard any new form of music similar to their beloved old music. Times change, music gets better. Those 'core' names are for kicks, but when a band that blends something together that is very unique, it deserves a new name, if the basis of it cannot be related to an existing genre.

my chemical romance is pussycore. The fact that the band looks so badass and dark but they're music is joyful and positive is just weird to me 😕 , not to mention being overplayed on every tv station.

Originally posted by Silverstein
1)well its a genre to me, and thats what counts 😄

Then you're an idiot. Before you reply with "DON'T CALL ME THAT!", let me reply by saying this; If you didn't go around saying "It's a genre to me, that's what counts.", I'd not call you one.

Acoustic isn't a genre. Literally it means relating to sound, musically it means any instrument that isn't electric. It's not a different genre. You are getting everything wrong, it's sad.

Originally posted by Silverstein
2) yeaaah, they're stupid alright, those darn kids 😉 and they had to be made up by somebody. im 17 by the way, is that still considered a kid? metalcore, grindcore and hardcore sound very different to eachother.

"Very" different is arguable, different enough to warrent their own genres? Hardly. Second, I never had a problem with the music, just the labels, get it right.

Originally posted by Silverstein
3) emo whatever emocore. i consider emocore as emo, but with breakdowns

You said Emocore/Emo among other genres, they're not different. Emocore is emo, there is no difference. "Emo" is just a shortened version of the term "Emocore". There's no difference in the music.

Originally posted by Silverstein
4) we call techno+hardcore, technocore, rather than calling it techno-hardcore. Cuz the music is unique enough to have its own name, like Nintendocore. And Yes, its cool. What's more comforting than your peers saying you're cool? 😎

It's not unique enough, you don't have the right to go around mislabelling music. What a childish and ignorant boy you are.

Nintendocore, haha. Get out of here, man.

Originally posted by Silverstein
the only thing i dont like about old school and older music fans is that they disregard any new form of music similar to their beloved old music. Times change, music gets better. Those 'core' names are for kicks, but when a band that blends something together that is very unique, it deserves a new name, if the basis of it cannot be related to an existing genre.

I love lots of modern and lots of old, I don't care when it was made. What I dislike is scene kids like you going around falsely labelling everything in some kind of dire attempt to be knowledgeable.

Music doesn't necessarily get better, but it does change. However, YOU aren't the ones who have the right to name these things. Especially when it's something dumb like "Techno-hardcore". Mislabelling bands, or labelling bands anyway, is disrespectful and pathetic.

Your kind are all the same. If something doesn't instantly fit, you feel you have to create a name. That's stupid and illogical. Screamo, for example, right? I asked someone, "So what is screamo to you?", "Like...harder emo.", "Well then that's just harder emo, isn't it? Why not just call it emo? It's emo, just harder. It's not a different genre, it's just heavier.", "Uh....".

Exactly.

Originally posted by Silverstein
my chemical romance is pussycore. The fact that the band looks so badass and dark but they're music is joyful and positive is just weird to me 😕 , not to mention being overplayed on every tv station.

To be fair, I wouldn't be calling any band pussies when you listen to Silverstein.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Then you're an idiot. Before you reply with "DON'T CALL ME THAT!", let me reply by saying this; If you didn't go around saying "It's a genre to me, that's what counts.", I'd not call you one.

Acoustic isn't a genre. Literally it means relating to sound, musically it means any instrument that isn't electric. It's not a different genre. You are getting everything wrong, it's sad.

"Very" different is arguable, different enough to warrent their own genres? Hardly. Second, I never had a problem with the music, just the labels, get it right.

You said Emocore/Emo among other genres, they're not different. Emocore is emo, there is no difference. "Emo" is just a shortened version of the term "Emocore". There's no difference in the music.

It's not unique enough, you don't have the right to go around mislabelling music. What a childish and ignorant boy you are.

Nintendocore, haha. Get out of here, man.

I love lots of modern and lots of old, I don't care when it was made. What I dislike is scene kids like you going around falsely labelling everything in some kind of dire attempt to be knowledgeable.

Music doesn't necessarily get better, but it does change. However, YOU aren't the ones who have the right to name these things. Especially when it's something dumb like "Techno-hardcore". Mislabelling bands, or labelling bands anyway, is disrespectful and pathetic.

Your kind are all the same. If something doesn't instantly fit, you feel you have to create a name. That's stupid and illogical. Screamo, for example, right? I asked someone, "So what is screamo to you?", "Like...harder emo.", "Well then that's just harder emo, isn't it? Why not just call it emo? It's emo, just harder. It's not a different genre, it's just heavier.", "Uh....".

Exactly.

To be fair, I wouldn't be calling any band pussies when you listen to Silverstein.

-AC

well then what do you call, the kind of music that City and Colour plays? i call it acoustic

listen to 'Horse The Band' they are nintendo core, and fyi the keyboard they use is made from the same soundcard from the original N.E.S. so ive been told

Technocore is like...hardcore, but with techno being the foundation of it. Its unique enough to be atleast a sub genre.

Screamo, doesnt necessary mean harder emo, some screamo bands arent all about depression and about losing their girlfriends. It's just post hardcore instrumentals with screaming as the main 'ingredient.' There's emo like Waking Ashland, who is all soft piano and whatnot, then there's emo with distortion, breakdowns, screaming, and they are categorized as the same?

for your information, i dont listen to Silverstein anymore. I've stopped listening to them for a while, i made this kmc acount a year ago when i did though.

Alright, kids! The Great Genre Debate Thread is up!
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=413109
No more shall we plague this thread with off-topic squables!

Originally posted by Silverstein
well then what do you call, the kind of music that City and Colour plays? i call it acoustic

It doesn't matter what you call it, why don't you understand that? It doesn't matter what anyone calls it. It's definitely not "Acoustic", because it's more or less impossible for that to be a genre.

Originally posted by Silverstein
listen to 'Horse The Band' they are nintendo core, and fyi the keyboard they use is made from the same soundcard from the original N.E.S. so ive been told

"Nintendocore" is the stupidest, most childish thing I've heard in a music debate. Whoever created it is stupid and you are stupid for adhering to it.

It's that simple. No further debate needed. It's people like you, using terms like "Nintendocore", that are damaging and disrespecting musical sounds and genres that actually do exist.

You don't create a genre just because of what the music was made on, you idiot. Why not call rock "Guitardrumsbassvocalscore"? Cos it's dumb.

Originally posted by Silverstein
Technocore is like...hardcore, but with techno being the foundation of it. Its unique enough to be atleast a sub genre.

No it's not, it's just harder Techno.

Originally posted by Silverstein
Screamo, doesnt necessary mean harder emo, some screamo bands arent all about depression and about losing their girlfriends. It's just post hardcore instrumentals with screaming as the main 'ingredient.' There's emo like Waking Ashland, who is all soft piano and whatnot, then there's emo with distortion, breakdowns, screaming, and they are categorized as the same?

Oh stop being such a moron, please. Post-hardcore is another label that needs to be erased, just call it what it is, don't call it some needless name.

Yes, they would all be emo, if emo actually existed today, which it doesn't, truly. In your situation, they would be different kinds of emo, but not different enough to warrant a new genre. The Cure are a rock band, Led Zeppelin were a rock band. Two totally different kinds of rock, but you don't see people going around labelling them all kinds of shit.

Maybe because generally people who are into great bands know better than to make up genres like "Nintendocore", and ignorant children who like Silverstein, don't.

Originally posted by Silverstein
for your information, i dont listen to Silverstein anymore. I've stopped listening to them for a while, i made this kmc acount a year ago when i did though.

Doesn't matter to me.

-AC

My favourite Emo Band is Simple Plan I think, they have some really sweet songs.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
There were two main waves of emo. The first included: Fugazi (the most influential to the second wave), Jawbreaker, Rites of Spring, possibly Minor Threat, Embrace, Grey Matter etc.

Then other bands such as Jimmy Eat World, The Get Up Kids, Sunny Day Real Estate etc started encorporating influences from the aforementioned bands into what they were making. That being a soft rock kind of thing. This is where emo ends, really. Jimmy Eat World had emotional songs and lyrics, but it spiralled out of control and now everybody labels certain bands as emo when they're not. With the second wave of emo (as it's known), you could at least trace back to the originals.

Bands that are labelled emo today, mostly, are not emo and never have been. As stated here:

"Correctly or not [b](AC's note: Not, for the record), emo has often been used to describe such bands as AFI, Alexisonfire, A Static Lullaby, Brand New, Coheed & Cambria, Fall Out Boy, Finch, From Autumn to Ashes, From First to Last, Funeral for a Friend, Hawthorne Heights, Matchbook Romance, My Chemical Romance, Panic! at the Disco, Silverstein, Something Corporate, The Starting Line, Taking Back Sunday, The Used, Thrice, and Thursday. Fans of several of these bands have recoiled at the use of the 'emo' tag, and have gone to great lengths to explain why they don't qualify as 'emo'. In many cases, the term has simply been attached to them because of musical similarites, a common fashion sense, or because of the band's popularity within the 'emo' scene, not because the band adheres to emo as a music genre."

Wikipedia has a massive page on it, and as I've done this more times than I wish to count, I'll link you to it:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emo_%28music%29

-AC [/B]

Oh great. Does this mean we have to wach out for "poser" emo bands too? 🙄

I like My Chemical Romance and The Used. 😕

Simple Plan is not emo, they are pop

He was joking.

Originally posted by ~Rad~
I like My Chemical Romance and The Used. 😕

They're not emo.

-AC

what would you classify The Spill Canvas & The Early November as?Ac