Originally posted by GM Nebaris
Mace Windu, pretty quickly. When two offensive forms clash, you can always expect a short battle.
Darth Sidious practices Ataru, and the battle with Mace Windu wasn't really that short. Both Kenobi and Qui-Gon Jinn used Ataru in TPM, and Maul was a practitioner of Juyo - that fight lasted a decent amount of time.
Anyways, I'd concede Mace > Anakin; however it would not be easy under any circumstances. I'd expect a tough battle for Mace, but in the end he'd prevail.
Originally posted by Motoko Sama
Darth Sidious practices Ataru, and the battle with Mace Windu wasn't really that short. Both Kenobi and Qui-Gon Jinn used Ataru in TPM, and Maul was a practitioner of Juyo - that fight lasted a decent amount of time.Anyways, I'd concede Mace > Anakin; however it would [b]not
be easy under any circumstances. I'd expect a tough battle for Mace, but in the end he'd prevail. [/B]
With Mace and Sidious, my point still remains because Mace was going on the defencive and thus not fighting with the philosophy of Vaapad.
And with the Maul fights in TPM, you'll notice that there are a bunch of small fights that keep on coming to a close before an opponent can emerge victorious. Thus the fights were not long, but there were a bunch of small fights.
Originally posted by GM Nebaris
With Mace and Sidious, my point still remains because Mace was going on the defencive
Mace was on the defensive? Perhaps I missed the entire fight or saw another version of the movie. Mace was not going on the defensive, and this can be seen throughout the entire fight.
Firstly, after Palpatine got rid of Tinn, and Kolar - Mace went to the offensive, and then Kit died. After that, when they move into the hallway, yes Mace goes on the defensive for about seven seconds, then at the end of the hallway he goes offensive for about two seconds, and back on the defensive again shortly. Next he locks up Palpatine for four or five seconds. After that, he goes fully on offensive, and Palpatine isn't even back on the offensive until the window breaks. Then Mace and Palpatine trade blows; albeit Palpatine is exerting more offensive moves. Finally Palpatine is disarmed.
All of what I said can be seen here.
Now tell me, when has someone who uses an aggressive, offensive form not go on the defense for a short while? Palpatine has done it, Yoda has done it, Anakin has done it, Qui-Gon has done it, Maul has done it, the list goes on.
However, Mace was not going on the defensive the entire fight like you're implying, thus your "point" (whatever it was) doesn't stand.
and thus not fighting with the philosophy of Vaapad.
See above.
And with the Maul fights in TPM, you'll notice that there are a bunch of small fights that keep on coming to a close before an opponent can emerge victorious. Thus the fights were not long, but there were a bunch of small fights.
The fight was continuous - no one got a break (besides when it went one on one). It was basically the equivalent of Obi-Wan and Anakin fighting because they weren't always swinging their sabers around. And unless your telling me that Obi-Wan and Anakin had about twenty "small fights", then don't say it here.
And don't be ridiculous in your response - you're arguing nothing, and I'm pretty sure you know it. Or at least, I'd hope you know it.
I assume this is ROTS Anakin, and I assume this has been done before. The general consensus. is that Mace would beat Anakin. I agree that Mace would win, but it would be close. Anakin beat Dooku and Mace is only slightly stronger than Dooku is, so no matter who won it would be close, but kenobi helped tire Dooku out before Anakin killed him and Vaapad will be better off against Djem So than Makashi so I think Mace will win. Anakin is probably slightly faster and has more energy but Mace has everything else on him - experience, saber skills (probably) and Force skills, plus he's a Council Master and of equal rank as Yoda, so he should take Anakin, but it'd be a hell of a battle.