Is superman returns better?

Originally posted by chase el
It depends on how you look at it. The movie itself was definately better. Its my favorite. Routh did fine, so did Singer. It just didnt capture the feel of the first film. I think they should have started over like in Batman Begins.

But watch Superman the movie and then Superman Returns

Personally I wish they hadnt bothered with another Superman movie thats why I have taken as long as I have to see the movie.But I promised someone here I would see the movie since he wants me to so badly so I will this weekend.I wish they hadnt bothered with another Superman movie because unlike Batman,another superman movie wasnt needed.All the Batman movies that had been made till Batman Begins came along last summer were all crap so Batman Begins was totally needed to do the comicbook justice.Superman however already had two great films made so it wasnt necessary to make another superman movie.If they want superman on the big screen,they should just bring it back the first two movies to the big screen again. 🙄

Originally posted by Slowhand
Absolutely this is better. Back in 1978, Richard Donner made the world believe that a man could fly. Superman: The Move, and all the the first four, succeeded there. But Superman Returns can finally show Superman flying right. The technology exists now to show Superman as they should - phenomenally.

IN MY OPINION, Brandon Routh is a better Superman. I don't take anything away from Christopher Reeve, but the modern Superman is more mysterious, as he should be. Being Clark Kent is more painful for him than dealing with kryptonite.

Honestly, I don't understand why he wouldn't be Superman all the time.

👇 Oh please give me a break..They set the standard for special effects back then for todays movies and still meausure up to most movies special effects IN THIS ERA..He WAS shown flying right back then.Whenever I watch those movies today,they STILL make my mouth come wide open.

Originally posted by Mr Parker
👇 Oh please give me a break..They set the standard for special effects back then for todays movies and still meausure up to most movies special effects IN THIS ERA..He WAS shown flying right back then.Whenever I watch those movies today,they STILL make my mouth come wide open.

I disagree, I love the film by all means but you can't actually tell me the special effects impress you....😬

with the scenes of him flying,yes they blow me away.

Originally posted by Mr Parker
Personally I wish they hadnt bothered with another Superman movie thats why I have taken as long as I have to see the movie.But I promised someone here I would see the movie since he wants me to so badly so I will this weekend.I wish they hadnt bothered with another Superman movie because unlike Batman,another superman movie wasnt needed.All the Batman movies that had been made till Batman Begins came along last summer were all crap so Batman Begins was totally needed to do the comicbook justice.Superman however already had two great films made so it wasnt necessary to make another superman movie.If they want superman on the big screen,they should just bring it back the first two movies to the big screen again. 🙄

To quote what I said about you in another thread -

"Once again you have your head up your ass - again."

And again.

You must like the view from there. It reflects the quality of your posts. 😉

Originally posted by steverules
Is superman returns better than superman with Christopher Reeves?

There IS only one Superman - Christopher Reeve. Brandon Routh is a boy, painfully inexperienced and totally out of his depth. Especially compared to Christopher Reeve, who could convey more meaning by lifting an eyebrow or letting a faint smile curve his lips, than Routh was able to do in the entire movie. Subtlety is not exactly his strong point.

Ask me again in ten years, when Routh has grown up. Maybe then he will be able to give a tenth of the depth that Reeve had naturally.

He's been asked to imitate for stupid fans not for smart fan like me.

Originally posted by Dr. Zaius
So, in your opinion the addition of the CGI flight scenes made the Singer film superior? In a word...no. Go back and watch Superman: The Movie. There's more real feeling and epic yearning in the first 30 minutes than in the entirety of Superman Returns.

As an aside, Routh can't hold Chris Reeve's jock as an actor in general or as Superman in particular.

While I didn't hate the movie like you seemed to, I agree with your assesment of the 1st movie.

The 1st Superman movie is a true classic and I haven't seen any modern Superhero movie top it...It had a certain soul to it... not spidey, not bats, not hulk, or FF.

Superman 2 while having some hockey moments was a very fun movie to watch.

I think SMR was all about a set up for a sequel of some type, like Singers X-men, I believe the 2nd will be an improvement over his original.

I do what Singer does...I go back to check, that's all I do. Those movies are the perfect bed time story. Actually, I describe them as books not movies...please cover your eyes! SR is a movie.

Originally posted by steverules
Is superman returns better than superman with Christopher Reeves?

No. and its not better than Superman 2 either... Routh isnt half the Superman Reeve was. To this day nobody has captured the contradictory natures of Clark and Superman so perfectly...

and Gene Hackman as Lex Luthor... nuff said...

Superman Returns ranks along side Superman 3 and 4 for me. I thought it was a horrible movie.

Originally posted by Dreampanther
There IS only one Superman - Christopher Reeve. Brandon Routh is a boy, painfully inexperienced and totally out of his depth. Especially compared to Christopher Reeve, who could convey more meaning by lifting an eyebrow or letting a faint smile curve his lips, than Routh was able to do in the entire movie. Subtlety is not exactly his strong point.

Ask me again in ten years, when Routh has grown up. Maybe then he will be able to give a tenth of the depth that Reeve had naturally.

👆

I felt "safe" with Reeve's Superman...he truly acted like the icon that he was meant to be. Routh's Superman seemed to sulk and beg for sympathy. He almost felt sorta shady, instead of the "boy scout."

Originally posted by Mr Parker
Cant say yet since I havent seen it yet.However I will be seeing it this saturday and will have my answer for sure after the weekend.

Jesus H. Christ.
You have been on a non-stop binge of negative postings for weeks now, since the film opened -

- and you tell us you HAVEN'T EVEN SEEN IT YET??????

JUST WHO ARE YOU TO BE SO CRITICAL? 😠

See it - then criticize as much as you like, if that's how you feel.

Listen yo, a laptop is better than 1 and 2. Wait for year 2009

Yeah Christhoper Reeve, is Superman...but Brandon Routh did a very nice job portraying him, but he also gave his own uniqueness to the film. I think Superman Returns is a lot less painful to watch. Although I love the first 2 films don't get me wrong. I just don't believe hes flying. I don't know...but I will always love the classic ones, but I'd say that I did enjoy Superman Returns more.
Brandon looks great as him too. I don't think he looks to young, hes very mature and his voice is deep.

Originally posted by .Dance_Inside.
Yeah Christhoper Reeve, is Superman...but Brandon Routh did a very nice job portraying him, but he also gave his own uniqueness to the film. I think Superman Returns is a lot less painful to watch. Although I love the first 2 films don't get me wrong. I just don't believe hes flying. I don't know...but I will always love the classic ones, but I'd say that I did enjoy Superman Returns more.
Brandon looks great as him too. I don't think he looks to young, hes very mature and his voice is deep.

Dance_Inside, I'm disqualifying you from any further discussion on Brandon Routh due to your obvious romantic attachment...

NO!

Originally posted by Dr. Zaius
Dance_Inside, I'm disqualifying you from any further discussion on Brandon Routh due to your obvious romantic attachment...

😆

Although Brandon's butt looks rather spectacular in those tight TIGHT blue tight, and when he's lifting up the New Krypton Continent, and his abs are rippling, and his face looks like it was formed by gods!
Thats besides the point.
I love Superman dearly, I have since I was a kid, just because I think Brandon is a good looking man doesn't mean I don't respect the Superman movies and anthology GEEZ!

Originally posted by .Dance_Inside.
Although Brandon's butt looks rather spectacular in those tight TIGHT blue tight, and when he's lifting up the New Krypton Continent, and his abs are rippling, and his face looks like it was formed by gods!
Thats besides the point.
I love Superman dearly, I have since I was a kid, just because I think Brandon is a good looking man doesn't mean I don't respect the Superman movies and anthology GEEZ!

No need to explain.

But, Dance_Inside...incidentally, you do know that some of those bulges are CGI, right? Especially those bulges underneath the underoos...