Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Okay....so If a 30 year old man is attracted to a 25 year old woman who looks like she's 13, is he a peadophile ?
Again it's vague. But it's more of an attraction to the looks of a child,, I mean paedophiles are not attracted to children for the sake of..well, them being children.
Originally posted by Bardock42
Again it's vague. But it's more of an attraction to the looks of a child,, I mean paedophiles are not attracted to children for the sake of..well, them being children.
Eh....not easy to say...
Although its clear that the "underdeveloped" look of a child is what really attracts the peadophile, it sometimes is also the "innocense" or "naivety" that comes with being a child that many peadophiles are attracted to.
The same way you or I may look at other guys, find thier physical traits appealing, but then also want something masculine (or feminine) out of thier personality....
Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Okay....so If a 30 year old man is attracted to a 25 year old woman who looks like she's 13, is he a peadophile ?
there you go again with age.
fine, lets say i meet a girl who is 25 years old, but looks like a child (isnt there an actual medical condition like that?). lets say that shes like 4 feet tall, 70 pounds, no breasts, no thighs, just every bit a child in the eyes of anyone who has ever seen a child. lets say i feel sexually aroused by her childlike features, in fact lets say thats a preference. then yes, chances are i am a peadophile, attracted to a 25 year old. (at this moment i hear the sounds of out-of-context-quoters ejaculating in their pants)
Originally posted by PVS
spin? its spin to point out that you are factually wrong in declaring the topic to be general paedophilia? ok, whatever champdo i think a mental disorder should be allowed? do we as a society have the ability to allow problems to exist? or do they just occur?
and as master of reality you can simply accuse others of "spinning" with no explanation. just say "spin" and run. you win the internet! 👆
a stance? give me yours. all i can see is that you do not support a mental condition which compulses one to have sexual attraction for children. not just someone who is not of legal age, which you instantly and ignorantly tag as "peadophile", but rather one who is attracted to features which are clearly underdeveloped/undeveloped. a peadophile doesn't give a shit about actual age. thats just a number.
Ya, I am solely responsible for the thread taking a different but still related route. Guilty!
Not if that mental disorder causes harm. If someone is a murderer because of sheer mental instability. We do something about it. Both, we allow some problems to exist and they do just occur. The point being?
You are spinning, you are debating against me without taking a stance of why you think I am wrong. Instead you just spewed philosophy my way. In that case we could do it all day and wonder why we even exist as a society, why we have laws, are laws useful etc.
I have given my stance repeatedly, should I copy and paste everything i have said for the last 13+ pages? Yes, I do not support a mental condition that causes harm. Jeffrey Dhamer had a mental condition, should we allow that? Listen, if one adult wants to have his/or her sexual adult partner dress up like a school girl/boy, I could care less; both persons are adults and both are giving adult consent. Are you absolutely certain a pedophile "doesn't give a shit about actual age"?
Your stance?
Originally posted by Lord Urizen
No. But you have never proven that [b]Consent doesn't exist in relationships between 14 year old and adult. You just keep pretending it doesn't by saying "its gross....14 year olds are too young...they're not mature enough...etc.etc."Consent is just permission. That is all. You don't need maturity or wisdom to have it. You just need to want it and allow it, for it to be called Consent. [/B]
If you're going to quote me, do not use your own words, it's bad form.
Originally posted by Bardock42
Well, at least for me the term Paedophile applied to people whose preference are children ..because they look like children, it might be true that other traits might be the reason for paedophilia as well.
Pedophiles have admitted that they are also attracted to a child's mind as well, it isn't just physical.
Originally posted by Robtard
Ya, I am solely responsible for the thread taking a different but still related route. Guilty!
wow, i shouldnt have said that, which i didnt. to go off topic is common. to then declare that your own topic is the new topic is obnoxiously pretentious. i thought i made that clear....i did....as i probably will have to again...and again
Originally posted by Robtard
Not if that mental disorder causes harm. If someone is a murderer because of sheer mental instability. We do something about it. Both, we allow some problems to exist and they do just occur. The point being?
the point is that you cant allow or disallow a mental condition. you can only allow/disallow the person's fulfillment of deviant desires brought on by the condition. are you really this thick or are you just breaking my balls? really, i wont be mad if your just breaking balls, but please say so.
Originally posted by Robtard
You are spinning, you are debating against me without taking a stance of why you think I am wrong. Instead you just spewed philosophy my way. In that case we could do it all day and wonder why we even exist as a society, why we have laws, are laws useful etc.
yes, if i question the grounds of a law it must mean that i am against it, along with all laws. what logic! and i'm spinning? philosophy? what philosophy? i call out 'fact' and where opinion is wrongfully implied and i call out 'opinion' when fact is wrongfully implied. you call it philosophy, i call it reality. i also specialise in disecting horseshit logic. learn wtf peadophelia means before you debate it with such certainty
Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Duno what this is about.....1) How can you take advantage of someone who WANTS the same thing that you do ?
2) You gave us examples of how restrictions exist on teenagers in areas such as using a gun,etc. But you have made no successful analogies or given any real evidense as to why restrictions should exist on a relationship between teenager and adult. :np:
Like I said....I had sex with a 24 year old when I was 15, and I'm still here today....I'm not a rare case either 🙄
IT doesn't matter if thier mature enough to make thier own decisions (they shouldn't be restricted for everything though, that's absurd)...the question is whether or not [b]Consent
exists.And you NEVER answer that question...you just keep blabbing about how you think since they're not mature enough, then there's no Consent. Please.....immature Consent, or mature Consent, are still CONSENT [/B]
I have given you reasons and examples of what differentiates an adult's consent and a child's consent. If you fail to see the difference, I do not know what else or how else to explain it to you.
Originally posted by PVS
there you go again with age.fine, lets say i meet a girl who is 25 years old, but looks like a child (isnt there an actual medical condition like that?). lets say that shes like 4 feet tall, 70 pounds, no breasts, no thighs, just every bit a child in the eyes of anyone who has ever seen a child. lets say i feel sexually aroused by her childlike features, in fact lets say thats a preference. then yes, chances are i am a peadophile, attracted to a 25 year old. (at this moment i hear the sounds of out-of-context-quoters ejaculating in their pants)
Technically, if you are only attracted to women (or men) with child like features, then you are a peadophile.
However, if you just happen to like this woman because she has a great personality, and is still technically good looking, then no you're not a peadophile.
I'll give you me for example...young kids gross me out. 😘 I am only really attracted to men and women....developed features like big muscles and big breasts turn me on....
However...there was once a time i thought a girl who was only 14 was hott (and I am 20 years old)...she didn't look like an adult. She still looked young....but she has these green eyes...more striking than ANY eyes I have ever seen.
Does that make me a peadophile? She was only 14, she looked 16-ish, but I was mainly attracted to her striking eyes....
Originally posted by Bardock42
Okay, still why are 14 year olds considered to be children (in any other way than us all being children to someone)
Because of maturity level. True, I could be considered a child at 40 in comparison to person who is 95. But people (not all I guess) realize that maturity comes with age. That is why we trust a 16 year old to drive and not a 12 year old.
We realize that by certain ages, maturity and awareness is reached. I would be willing to leave a 12 year old at home alone and trust that he/she is mature enough to realize the consequences if he/she were to stick a fork in the electrical socket, but I would not trust a 5 year old.
Originally posted by Robtard
Because of maturity level. True, I could be considered a child at 40 in comparison to person who is 95. But people (not all I guess) realize that maturity comes with age. That is why we trust a 16 year old to drive and not a 12 year old.We realize that by certain ages, maturity and awareness is reached. I would be willing to leave a 12 year old at home alone and trust that he/she is mature enough to realize the consequences if he/she were to stick a fork in the electrical socket, but I would not trust a 5 year old.
I'm not arguing that a relationship between 14 and 30 year old is appropriate or even fair....but Consent is still there, if it's a relationship. You can't just ignore that.
Originally posted by Lord Urizen
But you admit thier is Consent ? That is all I want to know....
Sure, just like a 5 year old could consent to letting me shove a banana up his/her ass. Does that mean the child in question realized the consequences of said actions and had the mental capacity and maturity for it? No, it does not.
You really need to realize the difference between an adult giving consent and a child/teenager.
Originally posted by Lord Urizen
I'm not arguing that a relationship between 14 and 30 year old is appropriate or even fair....but Consent is still there, if it's a relationship. You can't just ignore that.
But you have. You used yourself and your friend as examples for why adult consent and non adult consent are equal.
Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Technically, if you are [b]only attracted to women (or men) with child like features, then you are a peadophile.[/B]
no, thats wrong, technically and factually. peadophiles in many cases can be sexually aroused by mature partners. where did you get that?
Originally posted by Lord Urizen
I'll give you me for example...young kids gross me out. 😘 I am only really attracted to men and women....developed features like big muscles and big breasts turn me on....
why do young kids gross you out? they dont gross me out. most kids are cute. thats why they get away with all the shit they pull. same goes for all young mammals. if you find them repulsive then thats a troubling issue right there.
Originally posted by Lord Urizen
However...there was once a time i thought a girl who was only 14 was hott (and I am 20 years old)...she didn't look like an adult. She still looked young....but she has these green eyes...more striking than ANY eyes I have ever seen.Does that make me a peadophile? She was only 14, she looked 16-ish, but I was mainly attracted to her striking eyes....
paedophelia is based on sexual attraction toward childlike features. so answer your own question.
Originally posted by Robtard
Sure, just like a 5 year old could consent to letting me shove a banana up his/her ass. Does that mean the child in question realized the consequences of said actions and had the mental capacity and maturity for it? No, it does not.
What a horrible analogy.... ❌
So you imagine that all 14 year olds are SO clueless about sex, that they have no idea what it is...that thier lack of "sexual wisdom" is so poor, that its equal to shoving a banana up a 5 year old's ass ?
Damn...you must think all 14 year olds are stupid 😆
You are either generalizing greatly, have a bias against the youth, or just live in an isolated part of the world where Sex knowledge is taboo.....
Originally posted by Robtard
You really need to realize the difference between an adult giving consent and a child/teenager.
Uhhh...NO.....YOU my freind, need to recognize the difference between a child and teenager. A 5 year old is a child....a 14 year old is not. Can you stop with these horrible, poor, biased analogies please? It's making you look more and more like a blind idiot....
Originally posted by PVS
no, thats wrong, technically and factually. peadophiles in many cases can be sexually aroused by mature partners. where did you get that?
Untrue. 👇
Peadophiles aren't attracted to adults. It's like saying a Gay man is attracted to women also....uh no...thats bisexual my freind.
I dont know if there is a word that represents an adult who is attracted to adults/teenagers/and children.
Originally posted by PVS
why do young kids gross you out? they dont gross me out. most kids are cute. thats why they get away with all the shit the pull. same goes for all mammals. if you find them repulsive then thats a troubling issue right there.
Kids don't literally gross me out. I just don't like kids for one....I don't really want ne of my own....
I can't understand how someone could be attracted to something so young and skinny and underdeveloped. I find it gross, but that's just my opinion....I'm not putting my opinion as a moral standard or ne thing...
Originally posted by PVS
paedophelia is based on sexual attraction toward childlike features. so answer your own question.
According to your logic, I'm not. It was her eyes that attracted me, not her youthful body or face...
Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Untrue. 👇Peadophiles aren't attracted to adults. It's like saying a Gay man is attracted to women also....uh no...thats bisexual my freind.
funny since most convicted peadophile sex offenders are or have been married and many have even have kids. do you always pull thoughts from your ass and call it 'fact'?