Is Goku a ripoff of Superman

Originally posted by Chakan22
-His Father was a Scientist

Originally posted by Chakan22
-He even died and came back!(albeit like 4 times)

Okay dude, anyone who's rational can realize that Goku=Sun Wukong. Superman really has nothing to do with it.

Dragon ball Goku= Son Wukong

DBZ Goku = Superman, the whole concept of the saiyans was based on Superman 2, Zod Ursa and Non were turned into Raditz, Nappa and Vegita

Originally posted by King Kandy
No he's not, that's dub bullshit.

I think his first death may have predated the Desth of Superman...

Okay dude, anyone who's rational can realize that Goku=Sun Wukong. Superman really has nothing to do with it.

http://supergoku.ytmnd.com/

Originally posted by Creshosk
uh... kandy...

http://supergoku.ytmnd.com/

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Some of those "similarities" are sketchy at best.

They both were sent to Earth before their planet was destroyed, they were both discovered and raised by kind people. They both grew up to become great defenders of their planets. They both fought the person who destroyed their home planet. They both fought people who were made from their own cells. They both fought killer androids. They both shoot energy.

Their stories are fairly similar in those regards. is it really so hard to accept that DBZ might contain at least partial homages to Superman?

I mean Sonic the hedgehog does have an homage to DBZ in the form of SuperSonic to the SuperSaiyan.. which by name might be another part of the homage to SuperMan...

Note I'm saying homage, not rip off. Both are great stories, there's no need for a negative conotation.

Okay, some of these reasons are just plain stupid.

Yup "everything" comes from superman.

Toriyama has stated that big blue was a big influence on creating Goku...

Yes

Not a rip off, certainly strongly influenced though.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Okay, some of these reasons are just plain stupid.

Of course then you're the last person who needs to be talking about who is and isn't a superman clone. Goku was an homage, cause toriyama liked Superman. What's sentry's excuse?

Originally posted by Creshosk
Only to those in denial.

Of course then you're the last person who needs to be talking about who is and isn't a superman clone. Goku was an homage, cause toriyama liked Superman. What's sentry's excuse?

To be fair, the majority of the reasons are rather vague or outright unimportant or stupid. I would say the following have more or less not much of a point in one way or another.

Adopted by some kind of parent

Ma and Pa Kent and Son Gohan....the parallels are mind boggling, aren't they?

Both began as a comic

Yeah, well, so what?

Superman powered by the sun, Goku powered by the moon

a) that's not true b) the sun and the moon are quite different

Kryptonite - Son Gokus tail

They both have a weak point, that's not actually ripping something off though, just realism, most guys have a pretty weak point between their legs, besides Goku lost this weakpoint by the time people claim he becomes more like Superman

Both have a dark friend

Vegeta and Batman....that's, just not that good of a comparison, is it?

Starred in a cartoon series

Again, so what, Sabrina the Teenage Witch, Family Guy and Transformers are cartoon series...wouldn't say either is a rip off of any of the other.

Superman's laser beams, Goku's KameHameHa

Don't get that one....they both have...superpowers? C-cool

Enemy made out of their own cells

Bizarro and Cell have very, very little in common, I'd say.

They fought Androids

So, has every other Science Fiction character in the last 50 years...cause Androids are just freaking cool.

Majority of their games suck

Well.......that one is actually true.

I think it is funny to see that there are some funny coincidences, I think you could find those between most other Science Fiction based long lasting series too though. On topic it is not very helpful, I feel. Amusing though.

Originally posted by Bardock42
To be fair, the majority of the reasons are rather vague or outright unimportant or stupid. I would say the following have more or less not much of a point in one way or another.

Adopted by some kind of parent

Ma and Pa Kent and Son Gohan....the parallels are mind boggling, aren't they?

Originally posted by Bardock42
Both began as a comic

Yeah, well, so what?

Originally posted by Bardock42
Superman powered by the sun, Goku powered by the moon

a) that's not true b) the sun and the moon are quite different

Originally posted by Bardock42
Kryptonite - Son Gokus tail

They both have a weak point, that's not actually ripping something off though, just realism, most guys have a pretty weak point between their legs, besides Goku lost this weakpoint by the time people claim he becomes more like Superman

Sort of like Sonic the hedgehog's 7 chaos emeralds are a parrelel to the Dragon Balls and Super Sonic is an homage to Super Saiyan.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Both have a dark friend

Vegeta and Batman....that's, just not that good of a comparison, is it?

Cyclops and Wolverine I'll give you but other than them?

Originally posted by Bardock42
Starred in a cartoon series

Again, so what, Sabrina the Teenage Witch, Family Guy and Transformers are cartoon series...wouldn't say either is a rip off of any of the other.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Superman's laser beams, Goku's KameHameHa

Don't get that one....they both have...superpowers? C-cool

Originally posted by Bardock42
Enemy made out of their own cells

Bizarro and Cell have very, very little in common, I'd say.[/]b

Originally posted by Bardock42
[B]They fought Androids

So, has every other Science Fiction character in the last 50 years...cause Androids are just freaking cool.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Majority of their games suck

Well.......that one is actually true.

Originally posted by Bardock42
I think it is funny to see that there are some funny coincidences, I think you could find those between most other Science Fiction based long lasting series too though. On topic it is not very helpful, I feel. Amusing though.

Originally posted by Creshosk
I suppose Goku could have gone unadopted after being sent to earth as a baby... It's not like it's connected or anything...

This one is reaching and I don't really care about. That an the cartoon thing.

And goku isn't really powered by the moon, He's powered by an internal energy source.

I never said that Goku was a rip off. I said that some parts of him were an homage to Superman.

Sort of like Sonic the hedgehog's 7 chaos emeralds are a parrelel to the Dragon Balls and Super Sonic is an homage to Super Saiyan.

An antihero who hangs out with the main character? How many people have that?

Cyclops and Wolverine I'll give you but other than them?

See above.

*shrugs*

You mean other than the main point of being an enemy made of the hero's cells which was the only comparison drawn between them and thus still valid as it's true?

It is rather pushing it.

Ha! While I agree that the majority of both games suck I felt this one was just added as a dig both by them and by you (which I'll agree with). It really has nothing to do with them being similar as a lot of non-video game originating characters have video games that suck.

The ones you didn't mention are probably more part of the homage.

I figure we basically agree, my point is just that it doesn't support a rip off theory (as the thread proposed).

I know you don't mean to say that, but I can understand why it is refused on topics, cause, as we both agree, it is more of a homage than a "I want to make a character that is like Superman" thing.

Originally posted by NPC
Goku is ABSOLUTELY a rip off of superman. The creator of DB/DBZ has said EXACTLY that in an interview.

An alien from a far away planet gets sent to earth as a child an barely escapes said planets destruction that then grows up on earth an orphan an becomes super strong and a savior. Then 3 super villains(raditz, vegeta, and napa) from said planet that happend to survive their planets destruction travel to earth to confront him? THAT WAS SUPERMAN 2 the movie's plot, HFS!

exept zod and his kryponian comrades where after supes for revenge for j locking them in the phantom zone, radditz just happened to remember his kid bro kakarot was sent to earth, he went to collect him, after radditz wasted nappa and vegeta come septely, Gku has many things in common with supesbut originally he was just a boy found in te woods, the inspiration for the charactr was the monkey god of china NOT superman

Originally posted by BradBalboa
the inspiration for the charactr was the monkey god of china NOT superman

Goku is but a grain of sand in the sahara desert.

and superman is the desert =)

nothin against Goku but he just reminds me to much of the power rangers and a cheap kung fu cartoon with shit animation.

weather hes stronger or not could care less.

I don't think Akira intended to rip off Superman, but he did. 🙁

Originally posted by Combat_Guru
I don't think Akira intended to rip off Superman, but he did. 🙁

I don't hate superman but to say superman was 100% original would be a lie. Anyone hear of Gladiator? Predates superman by a couple of years. Someone gets a cookie if they can find the similarities between Gladiators real name and Kal-El/Clark Kent. Your gonna be shocked lol.