Originally posted by rotiart
How was that a bad showing in any right.
Bad showing in that Odin didn't really turn it on at anytime in the fight. To get an idea of what that would be, you need to see some of Odin's good showings. 😉
BTW, Tyrant gets killed. Idiotic energy blasts vs the power to alter reality? Give me a break. Once Thor received the OdinPower he realized that extent of the near limitless power that Odin had available to him and wondered why Odin hadn't simply used the Odinpower to defeat all the threats to Asgard.
Originally posted by Mider
i dont really believe he could have done that even if he wanted, whats thor saying that he could have gone to the celestial home world and said hay your gonna die now cause im mad, or whatever tyrant toasts odin all the skyfathers couldnt even beat one celestial host could they?
On the contrary, it sounds like Thor is saying precisely that. Given the kinds of feats Odin accomplished in the early days it's quite reasonable.
As for Tyrant he was nowhere near equivalent to a celestial.
Originally posted by rotiart
How was that a bad showing in any right.
Odin didn't fight Thanos nearly as hard as he fought others in his realm. Would he have been able to defeat Thanos if he did? Most likely, but I can't say for sure. However, I can say that if Odin was trying as hard to fight Thanos as he did, say, Surtur, that fight would have been even more one-sided than it was.
Originally posted by Mider
i dont really believe he could have done that even if he wanted, whats thor saying that he could have gone to the celestial home world and said hay your gonna die now cause im mad, or whatever tyrant toasts odin all the skyfathers couldnt even beat one celestial host could they?
The difference is that Odin was already beating Thanos down without going all out. He proved his superiority to Thanos already. Thor has yet to prove anything against the Celestials.
And as Boston said, Tyrant is nowhere near the level of a Celestial, at least not the Tyrant that fought Thanos.
Tyrants best showing is against a full powered galactus. What has Odin ever done to Galactus, a being capable to killing Celestials.
Tyrant however, nearly bested Galactus, but in the end, had to run.
Odin's best bet against the Celestials was the Destroyer... and remember what the Celestials did to that thing!? *snap*
Im begining to think(or have been for a while) that galactus would have his hands full with a celestial. Im not one to use low showings, in fact I dont but I cant help but mention Galactus's low showings here. For the powerset of the character he has some of the worst showings ever. If a writer needs a ***** among the galactic hierarchy then he's always it. On the other hand celestials dont have bad showings. Im sure galactus should be able to slay a celestial but the way he's always written Im not sure he would do it. Galactus gets weak with hunger, celestials dont.
Originally posted by rotiart
Tyrants best showing is against a full powered galactus. What has Odin ever done to Galactus, a being capable to killing Celestials.Tyrant however, nearly bested Galactus, but in the end, had to run.
Odin's best bet against the Celestials was the Destroyer... and remember what the Celestials did to that thing!? *snap*
I have no doubt that Tyrant at full power would destroy Odin. But then this wouldn't be much of a thread if it was full powered Tyrant. Since the creator of the thread mentioned both their respective battles against Thanos, I decided to compare the 2 by their power levels when they faced him. And at those levels, I believe Tyrant loses.
But Galactus at fullness is stated as being on the level of Eternity, and above celestials. However Galactus is always getting hungry often, and is used as a marker to indicate the respective power levels of a new threat. Galactus remade Zenn la, hell he imparts like 1% of his power into a herald and those guys become team busters. Galactus jobs like Darkseid jobs, because he's the most recognized of the more powerful entities in the marvel universe. DS in DC. Celestials are more rarely used because you can't humanize them. And not everyone wants to read the story of random enemy with no point. Galactus is usually weak when he's beaten. When he's full, hes a bully
Oh I agree 100%. Like I said they tend to use Galen as a galactic level punching bag and its crap that they do. The hunger deal does lend to a better story though. I think some of his low end showings are horrible though. I know a lot of people disagree with me but I think Odin would have owned Thanos befor long. Odin didnt use anywhere near the power in that battle as he has used in the past.
Originally posted by rotiart
In those battles:with Tyrant, Thanos admitted that if it ensued, he would die, Thanos evaded more than took the hits head on.
with Odin, Odin constantly believed he had defeated Thanos, but thanos taking Odin with Gungir headon would emergy virtually unscathed, if not for his clothing.
Yet Thanos was able to harm Tyrant but couldn't harm Odin. And Odin wasn't trying to kill Thanos. He was trying to beat him into submission. That's why he gave him the chance to yield. Tyrant was trying to kill him.
Odin has more feats under his belt, it would be a great battle never the less also depends where the battle takes place, if it's in Asgard Odin will out right, outside of Asgard Tyrant can take at least 50/50. Odin caused shock waves threw out the multi-universe, Odin all out equals cosmic shock waves even Tyrant wouldn't take Odin to lightly.