Originally posted by the Darkone
A full powered Tyrant lost to a normal Galactus, let' get the story straight. Normal Tyrant is on sky-father level, Odin one of the most powerful sky-father will serve Tyrant in Asgard, outside of Asgard tyrant might get some wins or split 50/50. Odin in Asgard is unbeatable, with Odin force he will blink tyrant out of existences, read more on Odin and the Odin force.
Odin in Asgard is unbeatable??? Thats why when the dark gods and perrikus came, The Asgards got whooped on right?
Originally posted by the Darkone
Marvel is not 100% accurate,
This is correct.
I never said Galactus can't be beaten by a Celestial and vice versa, but Galactus at Full potential is just as powerful as Eternity stated by eternity himself even the The Watcher Uatu stated that Galactus at full powered can obliterate the universe, and these where stated in comics. Galactus absorbs the dreaming Celestial aka black Celestial and other abstracts in FF 337-341 and in earth x franklin as Galactus with his powers destroyed three Celestial with his own power and killed others with his tech.
This has all been debunked already.
Odin is one of the most powerful sky-fathers and Zeus,Vinshu is the other, Odin and Zeus fought each other to a stalemate, even the Prime Eternal Zuras fought a enrage Zeus stalemate him also.
Yes. When Marvel changed writers and decided to go politically correct and have equal opportunity sky-father powers they made all of them equal but due to the weight of history had to return to representing Odin as being beyond the others. This has been reinforced time and again.
To give you an example of what a tiny fraction of the Odin Power can do, look up "Soul Eater" in old Quasar comics.
Tyrant is at a sky-father level like Zuras without the mystical powers when he fought Silver surfer and his team.
Not really.
Originally posted by aliveinboston
Virtually unscathed? Did you even see the comic book? Thanos had no effect whatsoever on Odin, on the other hand Odin kicked Thanos around. What ticked off Odin was probably that Thanos liked getting spanked.
Yes I did. Look at it, where did Thanos grunt, whimper, whine or admit defeat. He didn't. Not once. Not ever. Against Tyrant, Thanos admitted he would die if he had stayed any longer.
Odin of course is gonna be stronger in his own realm. And in his own realm the odinforce is gonna be more predominate for him. Obviously you didn't get my point then, nor did you read the comic.
Originally posted by the Darkone
you said in no other universe Galactus defeated a Celestail
Correct.
well earth x is another universe
It was Franklin Richards, not Galactus.
so is FF337-341 killing the black celestail who was the most powerful celestail next to Eixtar.
No, I already explained this. Galactus has nothing to do with it. In fact, he was under the control of the celestial. It was the machine that Galactus built that killed the Celestial. Galactus can't do anything without mechanical help. He's the universe's largest invalid (no offense to invalids intended).
Will we see Galactus killing a Celestail maybe and maybe not it depends on the story and Marve.
We saw Captain American take down Thor and batman take down the hulk so anything is possible.
Originally posted by rotiart
Yes I did. Look at it, where did Thanos grunt, whimper, whine or admit defeat.
Getting knocked on his ass over and over, finally falling into a smoking heap that he only (very slowly) recovered from when Odin decided to be merciful give him the chance to surrender, means nothing more than that Thanos enjoys the pain he receives.
He didn't. Not once. Not ever. Against Tyrant, Thanos admitted he would die if he had stayed any longer.
Tyrant was willing to kill him, Odin was not (yet). Odin stopped beating on him and gave him a chance to surrender.
Odin of course is gonna be stronger in his own realm. And in his own realm the odinforce is gonna be more predominate for him.
Odin is far more powerful than Tyrant and Thanos combined anywhere in the universe. Decades of Marvel history support this. With just a small fraction of the odin power Thor utterly mauled Thanos.
Obviously you didn't get my point then, nor did you read the comic.
I dont get your point for the simple reason that it is wrong. Incorrect. False. I did read the comic and in case you havent there are numerous scans available online. It shows how Odin gradually stepping up his output and how each time Thanos got up he got knocked down again. It wasnt really a fight. It was more like a grown up beating on a kid. Pretty pathetic showing by Thanos.
Originally posted by rotiart
Yes I did. Look at it, where did Thanos grunt, whimper, whine or admit defeat. He didn't. Not once. Not ever. Against Tyrant, Thanos admitted he would die if he had stayed any longer.
And Odin wasn't trying to kill Thanos. Tyrant was. And when Odin was saluting Thanos at the end, Thanos was on all fours. Not only that, he staggered to get back up. Good indication that he was getting worn out.
Btw. we are talking about WMT comics right. Where Thanos was attacked by Odin for invading Odins realm. Where Thanos was trying to let Odin know what was wrong with Thor, so Odin could try to save his son. That same Odin that was trying to save Thor, and hence would "kill" the father. Right. If anything it was Thanos not letting loose on Odin.
Odin is far above Tyrant, Odin with the Odinforce is a force to be reckon with plain and simple especially in Asgard. Odin wasn't trying to kill Thanos if he did Asgard would have been literally destroyed, I mean obliterated. Odin battle hela who had a fraction of Infinity powers and still held his own, Hela is one of Death soliders got b***h slap when she tried to kill Thor, Odin came into her realm and owned her could have killed Hela a gesture.
Originally posted by rotiart
Odin in Asgard is unbeatable??? Thats why when the dark gods and perrikus came, The Asgards got whooped on right?
Seems you either forgot or didnt actually read the comic book since after Odin got his power back he dissipated the molecules of all the Dark Gods to the "solar winds" with just a thought. That kind of power, the ability to instantly vaporize (literally) an entire pantheon of Gods is power far beyond Thanos or Tyrant.
Originally posted by rotiart
Your interpretation. No where does Odin say anything about upping his power. Its your assumption. Even using Gungir, he didn't defeat Thanos. Or cause any more visible damage than with the previous attacks. What does that tell you.
Go read the comic. There was visible damage. He as battered, bruised, and smoking. In case you forgot, he has control over his molecules so frame by frame he fixed himself. Had Odin continued to thrash him instead of mercifully ceasing and offering Thanos a chance to surrender, there is no doubt Thanos would be in such poor shape he might never fully recover.
And Odin doesnt need Gungir to use the odin power. That just makes his output less wasteful. No weapon can contain the odin-power, not even Mjolnir, the greatest of all the Asgardian weapons. In fact, Mjolnir cannot even contain a full-power god-blast from Thor.
Originally posted by rotiart
Btw. we are talking about WMT comics right. Where Thanos was attacked by Odin for invading Odins realm. Where Thanos was trying to let Odin know what was wrong with Thor, so Odin could try to save his son. That same Odin that was trying to save Thor, and hence would "kill" the father. Right. If anything it was Thanos not letting loose on Odin.
So youre saying that when Thanos attacked Galactus and sent him flying when he really just wanted to talk to him that Thanos was not letting loose right? If he wanted to he could have hurt Galactus right? Is that what youre saying? lol
Dark Gods=Asgardians, it was Perikus mother who stole Odin powers, read the Dark Gods story arc again.
When Thor became king and inherit the Odinforce he was humbled by the power that his father posse, Odin on occassion could have killed Sutur,ymir, Hela, he killed a whole race with one blast the same race that spawn Mangog. Only beings that can f**k up Odin are the top abstracts like Celestails, Galactus, chaos and order, chronos, love and hate, even dormmamu stated that he is equal to Odin when they where playing chest.
Originally posted by the Darkone
Dark Gods=Asgardians, it was Perikus mother who stole Odin powers, read the Dark Gods story arc again.When Thor became king and inherit the Odinforce he was humbled by the power that his father posse, Odin on occassion could have killed Sutur,ymir, Hela, he killed a whole race with one blast the same race that spawn Mangog. Only beings that can f**k up Odin are the top abstracts like Celestails, Galactus, chaos and order, chronos, love and hate, even dormmamu stated that he is equal to Odin when they where playing chest.
Galactus is not in the same power class and going by top feats, Celestials cant compete either. They had trouble with super-ego, who is far above galactus and ego but not anywhere near the odin-power. Without the Odin-power, however, Odin is no more a threat to the Celestials than Zeus or any other god. Why, as Thor wondered, this incredible power was not used is a mystery. Probably new writers trying to redefine characters.
Dormammu, by the way, has his hands full with Dr. Strange.
To reiterate, incinerating an entire race of gods with a thought is beyond anything Galactus could ever hope to do. Which brings us back to Tyrant vs Odin. Give me a break.
Originally posted by rotiart
Your interpretation. No where does Odin say anything about upping his power. Its your assumption. Even using Gungir, he didn't defeat Thanos. Or cause any more visible damage than with the previous attacks. What does that tell you.
Yeah, it's my interpretation that shows Thanos on all fours while Odin stands tall. It's my interpretation that shows him smoking and taking 3 panels just to stand up.
Originally posted by rotiart
Btw. we are talking about WMT comics right. Where Thanos was attacked by Odin for invading Odins realm. Where Thanos was trying to let Odin know what was wrong with Thor, so Odin could try to save his son. That same Odin that was trying to save Thor, and hence would "kill" the father. Right. If anything it was Thanos not letting loose on Odin.
The same one where Thanos said only a direct confrontation would be enough to try and reason with Odin. Where Thanos wanted SS at his side during the confrontation. Where Thanos never once tried to explain to Odin why they were there, not even after Odin had calmed down enough to give Thanos the chance to give up. Thanos could have easily had given up and explained to Odin why they were there, but he didn't. His pride wouldn't allow him to, so I guess he was just holding back because he liked getting smacked around.
Originally posted by aliveinbostonThe same tryant that considered the destruction of galaxies as collateral damage.Right.Tyrant 10/10.
Galactus is not in the same power class and going by top feats, Celestials cant compete either. They had trouble with super-ego, who is far above galactus and ego but not anywhere near the odin-power. Without the Odin-power, however, Odin is no more a threat to the Celestials than Zeus or any other god. Why, as Thor wondered, this incredible power was not used is a mystery. Probably new writers trying to redefine characters.Dormammu, by the way, has his hands full with Dr. Strange.
To reiterate, incinerating an entire race of gods with a thought is beyond anything Galactus could ever hope to do. Which brings us back to Tyrant vs Odin. Give me a break.
Originally posted by celestialdemon
The difference is that Odin was already beating Thanos down without going all out. He proved his superiority to Thanos already. Thor has yet to prove anything against the Celestials.And as Boston said, Tyrant is nowhere near the level of a Celestial, at least not the Tyrant that fought Thanos.
The full powered Tyrant would crush Odin.
Tyrant who fought Thanos and wasn't close to power level of when he fought Galatcus, that would be probably a hard battle.
Originally posted by celestialdemon
That's why he gave him the chance to yield. Tyrant was trying to kill him.
Tyrant pretty much wanted to play with Thanos at the beginning. He didn't have trouble and he wasn't hurt by Thanos. He was even holding back, ok, Odin was also holding back.
I still say depowered Tyrant would take this.
Originally posted by Mider
do you have proof tyrant or galactus is below a celestial
If you ask me, I wouldn't say Full powered Tyrant would lose against Celestial. I would say he would defeat aCelestial.
Originally posted by the Darkone
When Tranyt was created he was on the same level as a normal Galactus
Yes, and than Tyrant grew more in power. Full powered Tyrant was more than just a Normal Galactus.
Originally posted by aliveinboston
Galactus cannot and has never defeated a Celestial. This is because Celestials are much more powerful.
Galactus final power level goes beyond any Celestial at final power level.
Originally posted by the Darkone
Odin is far above Tyrant
Would you say that Odin would defeat Full powered Tyrant.?
Originally posted by aliveinboston
Galactus is not in the same power class and going by top feats, Celestials cant compete either. They had trouble with super-ego, who is far above galactus and ego but not anywhere near the odin-power.
WTF are you talking about. I think Odin is in top 5 most powerful beings in Marvel Universe.
Nowhere near the Odin power, WTF.