Sentry vs. Thor

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Originally posted by Mindship
You must come from a very tough neighborhood. 😉

An asteroid several hundred miles thick would rank among the largest known in our solar system. Regardless of method, the energy required to "blow up" the Earth is about 10^32 joules, or about 2500 billion gigatons of TNT (someone may wanna check my math; I'm doing this quickly).

What kind of chain reaction? A star is already a fusion chain reaction. And how would one start it? More likely, you could make a star supernova by feeding it mass, but you would need several times the mass of the sun to reach the supernova threshold.

A penny (weighing about 3 grams) converted entirely into energy would yield a 130 kiloton burst (about 10x the size of the Hiroshima bomb).

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So....wolverine wins?

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Originally posted by Mindship
You must come from a very tough neighborhood. 😉

An asteroid several hundred miles thick would rank among the largest known in our solar system. Regardless of method, the energy required to "blow up" the Earth is about 10^32 joules, or about 2500 billion gigatons of TNT (someone may wanna check my math; I'm doing this quickly).

What kind of chain reaction? A star is already a fusion chain reaction. And how would one start it? More likely, you could make a star supernova by feeding it mass, but you would need several times the mass of the sun to reach the supernova threshold.

A penny (weighing about 3 grams) converted entirely into energy would yield a 130 kiloton burst (about 10x the size of the Hiroshima bomb).

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About the asteriod. I was just showing that something with a small size can destroy something much much larger. Actually it takes an asteriod to be somewhat smaller than this. I only said "several hundred miles thick" because I couldn't remember what size the scientists were saying.
This asteriod wouldn't cause the Earth to instantly blow up. It would just cause a chain reaction of things in the Earth to ultimately make the Earth break off in pieces. This is what Scientists say so don't grill me on it.

About the sun. I'm sure you are familar with Star Trek the Next Generation. It was a episode where a certain technology was discovered to Supernova a sun. I forgot the technology (I haven't seen that episode in years). But it was theorized that an escape pod (I think that what is was) carrying the technology (with a special type of force field around it to prevent disintegration before entering) using some type of antimatter neutrino blah blah (I'm guessing here) to start a chain reaction that goes throughout the entire Star getting it to Supernova.

About the penny. Well a state (instead of city) then.

But my point is still the same.

An asteroid several hundred miles thick would rank among the largest known in our solar system. Regardless of method, the energy required to "blow up" the Earth is about 10^32 joules, or about 2500 billion gigatons of TNT (someone may wanna check my math; I'm doing this quickly).

That's the energy needed to atomise a planet. Some star wars fan worked it out to try and determine how powerful the Death star is. It's overly inflated, the death star doesn't do that it leaves lots of debree behind.

It would take much, much less energy to simply explode a planet.

Originally posted by Galvaclaw
That's the energy needed to atomise a planet. Some star wars fan worked it out to try and determine how powerful the Death star is. It's overly inflated, the death star doesn't do that it leaves lots of debree behind.

It would take much, much less energy to simply explode a planet.

http://ebtx.com/theory/uranium.htm
There is no mention of atomize, vaporize, disintegrate, etc. It just says "blow up."

http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/geekend/?p=277
Again, nothing about atomizing, just "blow apart," and even makes reference to the Deathstar.

From what I can see, 10^32 watts/joules is valid.

Originally posted by h1a8
About the asteriod. I was just showing that something with a small size can destroy something much much larger. Actually it takes an asteriod to be somewhat smaller than this. I only said "several hundred miles thick" because I couldn't remember what size the scientists were saying.
This asteriod wouldn't cause the Earth to instantly blow up. It would just cause a chain reaction of things in the Earth to ultimately make the Earth break off in pieces. This is what Scientists say so don't grill me on it.

No "grilling" intended (gee, maybe your neighborhood ain't so tough 😉 ). I wasn't even highlighting any particular method, just the amount of energy required. And technically, the faster the asteroid would be moving, the smaller it could be to set off reverberations to rock the planet apart.

About the sun. I'm sure you are familar with Star Trek the Next Generation. It was a episode where a certain technology was discovered to Supernova a sun. I forgot the technology (I haven't seen that episode in years). But it was theorized that an escape pod (I think that what is was) carrying the technology (with a special type of force field around it to prevent disintegration before entering) using some type of antimatter neutrino blah blah (I'm guessing here) to start a chain reaction that goes throughout the entire Star getting it to Supernova.

Yeah, I do remember that episode (David Ogden Stiers was the scientist), and they fired something like six photon torpedoes with those special warheads to blow up the sun. Even at the time I remember thinking that was really pushing the "suspension of disbelief" envelope. Regardless, it was Star Trek (where the rules of physics are often bent in a major way), not something on the Discovery channel.

About the penny. Well a state (instead of city) then.
But my point is still the same.

I wasn't debating your point. If anything, I was trying to emphasize it (and btw, a "state" Is hyperbole: a nuclear bomb's ability to destroy does not rise in proportion to its yield; there are "diminishing returns." See below what a 1-megaton warhead -- about 70x the Hiroshima bomb -- would do only to NYC).
http://www.carolmoore.net/nuclearwar/

Sorry if you took my post the wrong way. As I said, it was just Fun with Numbers.

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So....wolverine wins?

No. Batman with prep.

You know, someone recently made the point that Sentry's powers may not be as great in the Negative zone as they are outside of it. Thus, the location of the fight now becomes somewhat important. If it's in the negative zone (personally, I'm still going to say either in or out of it) Thor wins.