Magneto vs. The Flash

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Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
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Originally posted by Phenomenol
Yes, You have to be faster than the speed of thought! Gorilla grodd also bit the Flash.

no... flash didnt know grodd was there, and when grodd attacked dick wally hesitated, so grodd had plenty of time to initiate his psychic attack (probably starting it before they knew he was there)

The comic says otherwise 8 SECONDS to reach the speed of sound with momentum.

no. wally asks dick if he can stay alive for 7 seconds. dick replies that he might even be able to do 8. wally then runs 1500 miles to the mexican border and stops. THEN he starts building momentum as he runs back for the other half of his journey.

3.5 - 4 seconds or thereabouts.

Wrong. Doesn't need to it is stated and Dzzler was shooting photon beams at Maggs. Maggs wins.

no, she shoots an energy beam at him that happens to contain photons (like most energy beams), there is no evidence whatsoever to backup a claim that it was a beam travelling at the speed of light or purely photonic in nature.

and there's nothing in her powerset to back that up either...

no... flash didnt know grodd was there, and when grodd attacked dick wally hesitated, so grodd had plenty of time to initiate his psychic attack (probably starting it before they knew he was there)

Oh but according to you guys Flash can ZOMG react instantly to lightspeed which would have dodge the attack. 🙄 He still got mind blasted and bit proving he can't beat Maggs.

no. wally asks dick if he can stay alive for 7 seconds. dick replies that he might even be able to do 8. wally then runs 1500 miles to the mexican border and stops. THEN he starts building momentum as he runs back for the other half of his journey.

3.5 - 4 seconds or thereabouts.

Still, 8 seconds to reach the speed of sound, don't know why you are beating around the bush.

no, she shoots an energy beam at him that happens to contain photons (like most energy beams), there is no evidence whatsoever to backup a claim that it was a beam travelling at the speed of light or purely photonic in nature.

and there's nothing in her powerset to back that up either... [/B]

Dazzler shoots light it is light which is at lightspeed like a laser (which is lightspeeds) there is no gettin around this. Maggs wins!!!!

Originally posted by Phenomenol
Oh but according to you guys Flash can ZOMG react instantly to lightspeed which would have dodge the attack. 🙄 He still got mind blasted and bit proving he can't beat Maggs.

you can't physically dodge a psychic attack.

Still, 8 seconds to reach the speed of sound, don't know why you are beating around the bush.

he stopped at the mexican border, as in, he wasnt moving. no momentum. wrong again.

Dazzler shoots light it is light which is at lightspeed like a laser (which is lightspeeds) there is no gettin around this. Maggs wins!!!!

third time, still wrong. you said 'like a laser' but not the same... it cant be the same as a laser, why? because it has to hurt magneto, which it won't if its purely light.

you can't physically dodge a psychic attack.

Speed of light > Speed of thought!

he stopped at the mexican border, as in, he wasnt moving. no momentum. wrong again.

Nope coming back, took 8 seconds to reach the speed of sound, PATHETIC. Maggs kills him.

third time, still wrong. you said 'like a laser' but not the same... it cant be the same as a laser, why? because it has to hurt magneto, which it won't if its purely light. [/B]

Wrong! the attack speed of the attack is light!! because it is light, period. Maggs owns your Flash!!!!

What is there to a psionic attack to react to?

Magneto is very powerful. Flash is very fast.

A psychic attack is invisible, undetectable, unless you're a telepath yourself. You can't react to it because you don't know it's coming, and you can't dodge it because there's nothing physical to dodge. It's not a beam, it's an area of influence that is not usually shown to have a limited speed.

Furthermore, Flash running 1500 miles in 3.5 seconds, then stopping, then running back the same distance, all while injured, is over 2000 times the speed of sound.

No but according to you Flash is always ZMOFG moving lightspeeds he should never be caught by a psychic attack beacuse Gorilla Grodd simply doesn't THINK THAT FAST (Lightspeed).

Please don't give me your excuses now with all that crap talking you were doing pages ago.

So you mean he would attack and incapacitate him before he even launched the attack? One problem with that: He didn't even know Grodd was there, and he was distracted by Nightwing's predicament.

When he Finally SEEN Grodd he should have never been grabbed THEN mind blasted.

What happened to hitting lightspeed instantly.

Man Phenom, if a guy could be banned for gross stupidity then you'd be out of here lickety split.
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Now I can see where he's getting his 'Magnetos shield is faster then light speed' bullshit.

Remember about...ohh let's say a year ago. The wolvie fans were kicking up a stink because they (and I quote) 'Belived he has light speed reactions' why ? Because he dodged laser blasts aimed at him.

Basic logic would tell you Lasers = light , thus dodging lasers = light speed.

Seems they didn't factor in the apparent ability to dodge the WEAPON.

Same case different face.

Especially when we add in Dazzlers DBZ esq power up/speech (whim IMO is the stupidest thing you could ever do, personally t'would be smarter just to snipe the punk from a high vantage point)

And the whole outrunning a Psychic attack is KINDA feasible, but only kinda. Every psychic has a range of awareness (Ie : Xavier can affect the whole planet but couldn't contact Galactus right at the edge of the existence) so if Flash could escape from GGs psychic 'range' then he could 'avoid' the attack.

Then again know one knows how far his Psychic attacks can reach....

Originally posted by Phenomenol
Speed of light > Speed of thought!

he can only react to an attack once its happened... he didnt see the attack coming...

Originally posted by Endless Mike
A psychic attack is invisible, undetectable, unless you're a telepath yourself. You can't react to it because you don't know it's coming, and you can't dodge it because there's nothing physical to dodge. It's not a beam, it's an area of influence that is not usually shown to have a limited speed.

Furthermore, Flash running 1500 miles in 3.5 seconds, then stopping, then running back the same distance, all while injured, is over 2000 times the speed of sound.

Nope coming back, took 8 seconds to reach the speed of sound, PATHETIC. Maggs kills him.

wrong on both counts. wally said seven seconds, half of which he spent getting to mexico. 3.5 seconds coming back. its on the scan.

Wrong! the attack speed of the attack is light!! because it is light, period. Maggs owns your Flash!!!!

wrong. by your reckoning a green lantern's attack or cyclops' attack would be as fast as light too, which they are not.

i'm bored now... if you have anything new to add, i might reply to it, otherwise i'm just not interested...

Originally posted by grey fox
And the whole outrunning a Psychic attack is KINDA feasible, but only kinda. Every psychic has a range of awareness (Ie : Xavier can affect the whole planet but couldn't contact Galactus right at the edge of the existence) so if Flash could escape from GGs psychic 'range' then he could 'avoid' the attack.

Then again know one knows how far his Psychic attacks can reach....

it is possible, but there were a few things to consider, mainly the fact that he couldnt exactly leave nightwing to be slaughtered, and that the psychic attack had hit him pretty quickly... grodd could have been sitting, hiding in wally's mind until the time came to attack...

Say, what's the code for the *blows brains out* emoticon?

Originally posted by Soljer
Say, what's the code for the *blows brains out* emoticon?

i only wish i knew... 🙁

Originally posted by pr1983
i only wish i knew... 🙁

.......dont we all

Originally posted by Scarlet315
Who wins, master of magnetism or the man who rides the lightning?

Magneto

this just proves that Flash is physically faster, but how would he do to kill the mutant, the shield is impenetrable

Originally posted by wolverine1977
this just proves that Flash is physically faster, but how would he do to kill the mutant, the shield is impenetrable
match frequency phase right through. Steal all the kinetic energy the electromagnetic energy is giving off making it as though there were nothing there. Outright speed stealing magneto which is as of yet completely unblockable with no known method of stopping it to my knowledge.

Flash is a high mid-tier, while Magneto is a Herald. While power set match ups do matter, status and raw power usually matter more.

Magneto dominates.