It's very good except the parts with Anakin and Padme in them. Remove them and keep the Obi-Wan scenes and you have a good movie.
The fate of the entire galaxy rests in the heart of those cornball love lines! Ya can't take them out!
I especially like Anakin's palace dressing-down via Padme's icy stare. That look could cool off a moose at mating time.
Originally posted by EPIIIBITES
Don't worry...I'm not saying it's a good movie...but it sounds like you're just trying to give the film zero credit.Seems like a lot of people might not "get" Attack of the Clones.
You don't have to go much farther than the name to see where I'm coming from...this movie is the most self aware, campy, over-the-top film of the series...Maybe you think this movie is trying to take itself seriously...it's not. It takes the piss in a number of places and is over-the-top romantic, dramatic, and visually throughout...it takes everything to the "nth" degree. Kinda "cultish" I think.
Pretty much any review you'll read says this film is visually driven...it's definitely not driven by plot...what plot? Where?
And there is no resolution because not a whole lot is (as you said earlier) deduced...pretty much every non-Star Wars fan I saw this movie with was like "whuh?" at the end of the movie...they didn't know what the heck happened.
And this film is extraordinary...never before have we seen a film that takes place pretty much entirely in a "realistic" looking CG world...it's basically the first multi-million dollar (or by far the most expensive) art film ever made...and that kinda makes it cult IMO.
(and "realistic" is in quotes for a reason).
A film that is not plot driven is just a lot of money spent on nice effects. But nice effects and great visuals don't make a good film. It's as simple as that. It goes, in fact, against the very principles Lucas started SW with: the effects are merely the tools for storytelling. Now in AOTC the effects ARE the movie... Where did Lucas go wrong? He sinned against his own very principle, and a good one indeed.
And since the whole Anakin-Padem relationship is so terrible in this film. Anakin is an unsympathetic dickhead.... He only begins to get interesting at the beginning of ROTS... why wasn't he like that in AOTC. He is an a$$hole in AOTC, no wonder he turns Sith, but why Padme falls in love with him is a mystery to me. Again, bad storytelling. Magic CGI apples flying around doesn't make those scenes better.
AOTC is not a horrible film, it's just so damn obsolete... It doesn't take us any further, and the who-dunnit aspect... well, it's lame.... It doesn't create grand insights after TPM: a Sith is trying to meddle with the Republic.... we already knew that.
Originally posted by queeq
AOTC is not a horrible film
I'd say it's a horrible film...I have no idea why in the world anybody whose not a Star Wars fan would like or even be interested in ROTS or AOTC...
...but there are a lot of nerdy people out there (me included).
I think Lucas et al have a strange perception in their head that the new generation of PT Star Wars movies has as much public interest as, say, the LOTR movies...that the general public is actually following the story and actually care about what will happen...that's just not true. It's not the same as it was with Star Wars in the 80's.
The biggest reason these movies are hits is because of the nauseating advertising blitzes, the popularity, and the hordes of fans that go and see the films 3 times each...
In interviews you always hear Lucas et el say "this is what everyone has been waiting for" and stuff like that...who's eveyone Lucas? Get your head out of your butt. People cared to see TPM because it was advertised as the second coming...but that's it. Not a lot of people care about the other prequels...Older folk realize how bad these movies actually are...most younger folk just think it's extremely nerdy...
Lucas has done the crapiest job imaginable in including the general audience in AOTC and ROTS...The only decent all around film in that respect was TPM...and it was just a mediocre film.
Truth hurts...sorry.
Best Parts:
- Introduction (the ambush at Coruscant was really surprising)
- Coruscant Speeder Chase
- Jango vs. Obi-Wan
- Dogfight in the Asteroid Field
- Anakin already wanting power
- Geonosis Arena
- Geonosis Battle
- Climax Duels (though Yoda vs. Dooku should have been longer)
Bad Parts:
- Storyline: Some planets want to leave the Republic, and some Seperatist movement under Dooku is underway. Padme wants to create a Grand Army for the Republic, and Dooku sends Jango Fett to kill her. Anakin protects Padme, and they fall in love. Obi-Wan finds out a Clone Army in Kamino waiting to be used. Blah blah blah. It was an okay storyline, but what I didn't like is that they didn't show Dooku at all until the end. I mean, in the introduction, they say:
"This Seperatist movement,
under the the leadership of the
mysterious Count Dooku, has
made it difficult for...."
Basically, Jango Fett was the main villain for more than half the film until Dooku is shown.
Love:
Anakin and Padme's love was okay. It was kind of weird as Anakin keeps thinking about her for 10 years. What did she do to him in TPM anyway? Somehow, he manages to get her to kiss him and so forth. How does she fall in love with him anyway? But it surely isn't as bad as people think it is. Though Han and Leia's seemed to be a lot better.
Overall my ranking is:
1.) ESB
2.) ROTS
3.) ANH
4.) AOTC
5.) ROTJ
6.) TPM
The CGI helped it out a lot!
Originally posted by chinabingHmm.. Only with the scene of the missing planet, I briefly thought "who was that?", doesn't make the movie a Poirot movie though..
AOTC is a mystery. Once you know the mystery, it's like re-reading a whodunnit. But when I saw it the first time, I was blown away.
Originally posted by chinabingNah, the fate of the universe doesn't really lay in the scene of them talking loveable shit towards one another.
The fate of the entire galaxy rests in the heart of those cornball love lines! Ya can't take them out!I especially like Anakin's palace dressing-down via Padme's icy stare. That look could cool off a moose at mating time.
Ah.. what the hell. They could've just fallen in love after AotC for my concern. I yawn at their supposedly romantic scene.
Originally posted by Quinlan_Vos
Best Parts:- Introduction (the ambush at Coruscant was really surprising)
- Coruscant Speeder Chase
- Jango vs. Obi-Wan
- Dogfight in the Asteroid Field
- Anakin already wanting power
- Geonosis Arena
- Geonosis Battle
- Climax Duels (though Yoda vs. Dooku should have been longer)
You forgot the end. 😛