Caring what others think.

Originally posted by PVS
so now you dont feel that the underclass are just taking advantage of us and "duck out" of responsibility? now they have it shitty again?
masterful backpedaling

It's both. Again, I'm thinking about this issue in terms of addiction--addiction to entitlements, drugs, or whichever dysfunction.

The addict both has it rough, in the sense that he is controlled by forces larger than himself, and is complicit in his own self-destruction. The way to help an addict is not to facilitate his bad habits, but to call him out and challenge him. To intervene, as it were. Cutting off an addict from his means to keep hurting himself and asking him to separate himself from the culture/lifestyle that entraps him is a call to personal heroism.

so we should throw them out in the streets to 'cure' their addiction? not that im trying to put words in your mouth, but i can deduct no other solution from what you suggest. so im sure i misinterpreted, and with that said, please correct me and tell me just what you're suggesting.

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
Read what I said.

And it's a little distrubing to me that you and so many others are buying in to this notion that everyone who lives in low income areas are there because they're just content to live off the government. "Exactly what kind of people" are you referring to?

And don't tell me about what kind of people live in the projects, i grew up in and out of section 8 housing, i never said a thing about people in the projects being content to live off welfare the rest of their lives, that was Dr. Z. Believe me anyone who's actually been to any project knows the number one concern of 90% of the people is how the hell they're gonna get out.

"Exactly what kind of people?" Poor, black people. The poor black people that you referred to in your previous post, saying you doubt the city planners have in mind where these people will end up. They know exactly where the poor people will end up, which is why in the lowest parts of the city they don't build gated communities or fancy condos, they build housing projects.

The projects, much like "ghetto", doesn't refer to a series of apartment buildings. It refers to an area of a city that includes houses and liquor stores and fried chicken joints and laundromats and used syringes and all those other stereotypical things.

Nah, young kids who watch too many rap videos may use it the wrong way and call any ghetto the projects, but the projects only applies to public housing.

The projects didn't exist before America's "war on poverty," before that we had slums and shanty towns just like everyone else. Large, inpersonal public housing complexes were erected to replace these slums and got dubbed "the projects" because they were a government project to cut down on poverty. That name became notorious over time because a 20 story brick building is still a slum if everyone who lives there is broke..

Originally posted by Afro Cheese
America's "war on poverty,"

Is that like the war on "Drugs" or the war on "Terrorism"? Or even the war on 'Free thought'?

Pretty much, except some good did actually come from the war on poverty.

If you care what others will think too much...........IT WILL DESTROY YOU!! Honest to gods truth!!

In a way we depend on each other...a good example is work when we become adults...sum ourselves to society.

Originally posted by KharmaDog
More than one person on this forum has proclaimed that they don't care what others think about them.

I believe that to be complete bullsh*t.

As social beings we can't help to care how we are percieved by others. Some may fret about it more than others, some may go out of their way to change the perception of themselves by others and some may care about it somewhat less then others but I believe, that to a degree, it is only human to care how others perceive you.

In fact, I believe that those who proclaim loudest that they don't care how other's percieve them, in fact, are those that care the most and desire the greatest levels of acceptance.

Anyone care to agree, disagree or comment?

Originally posted by ThePittman
I generally care what people think and listen to what they say and take it to heart but when it is something that I believe in or feel strongly about then I really don’t care. Like I have no problem going out in public looking “sloppy” and don’t care what people think of me or if people think that I’m the devil or worse that I don’t believe in religion. If I know it’s the truth for me then it doesn’t matter what others think. Sometime it’s more of a self-esteem issue then anything else.

Does that mean you feel strongly about looking sloppy? Is it something in which you believe?

don't get worked up, I'm just kidding

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
Does that mean you feel strongly about looking sloppy? Is it something in which you believe?

if a person thinks that you suck for no apparent reason, would you care?

No, why would I care.

Originally posted by redcaped
In a way we depend on each other...a good example is work when we become adults...sum ourselves to society.

Originally posted by debbiejo
It's also a cause and effect.......This is how most societies work.....If you don't fit in (think differently), then you must either change, move, or don't care and live with the label....

Very true.