Street Level Rumble!!!!

Originally posted by MrHeavySilence
I think the teleportation button should be allowed because the JLA issue was canon. In that issue there was no indication that he had a special suit. It was installed on his belt, meaning its a part of his costume, useful at all times.

Batman would be able to use the shield effectively (not as well as Cap), but because he has equal or more martial art knowledge than Cap, AND has all his magnificent gadgets, he would be a deadlier adamantium-shield wielding contender.

Those Daredevil/Batman and Captain America/Batman crossovers are not canon; the most "canon" uncanon crossover was DC vs. Marvel because it was referenced and acknowledged by both DC and Marvel in Generation X (Marvel) and Green Lantern (DC), which in case, Batman narrowly beat Cap and punched out Bullseye with one fist (probably an implied action that he could beat Daredevil). Therefore, the crossovers benefit Batman more than anybody else and should not be used.

And yeah, Black Panther is my second choice, but you know me.. always defending the underdog.

Wait, there was another crossover that was cannon. The Avengers vs. JLA crossover. That was cannon, and was referenced later in both series I believe. That's where Batman admitted it was possible for Cap to defeat him.

And are you positive the Daredevil/Batman isn't cannon? I was under the impression that it was.

And I completely support you having your own opinion. I love rooting for the underdog myself. More power to ya. 🤘

DD should take this fight rather easily. He has the ability, though his enhanced senses, to sense what an opponent is going to do before he/she/it does it. Also due to his enhanced sense of touch he knows a multitude of pressure points that none of the combatants would possibly be able to locate; points which would put Cap, Batman, or BP out in one quick, precise blow. He is fast enough to dodge their attacks, especially since he knows they're coming, and has the martial arts skills to rival any of them.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Wait, there was another crossover that was cannon. The Avengers vs. JLA crossover. That was cannon, and was referenced later in both series I believe. That's where Batman admitted it was possible for Cap to defeat him.

And are you positive the Daredevil/Batman isn't cannon? I was under the impression that it was.

And I completely support you having your own opinion. I love rooting for the underdog myself. More power to ya. 🤘

I just read the JLA/Avengers! 😱

It's awesome! And yeah, that's where I read Batman admitting to Cap that Cap "might conceivably" take him. "But only after a long battle..."

What happens in the Batman/Daredevil crossover? I haven't read that yet... 🙁

Does Batman take it, or Daredevil?

Originally posted by Dreampanther
I just read the JLA/Avengers! 😱

It's awesome! And yeah, that's where I read Batman admitting to Cap that Cap "might conceivably" take him. "But only after a long battle..."

What happens in the Batman/Daredevil crossover? I haven't read that yet... 🙁

Does Batman take it, or Daredevil?

Stalemate. They each toss some blows, throw each other around a bit, but there is clearly no definite winner in the fight. That fight could've conceivably gone on for a long time before a winner became apparent.

But not too long, since their both normal humans. I think it's reasonable to say that there would be a (not necessarily clear) winner after a few hours of battle. My guess would be Batman, though.

Edit: Cap would win against Batman, since he has enhanced strength, stamina and durability

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Wait, there was another crossover that was cannon. The Avengers vs. JLA crossover. That was cannon, and was referenced later in both series I believe. That's where Batman admitted it was possible for Cap to defeat him.

I heard the Avengers/JLA was only acknowledged by Busiek in JLA (DC), but Marvel completely ignored it, so it wasn't acknowledged by both sides. So its sort of half-canon.

Well, if Batman and DD are pretty much equal, and Batman admits that that Cap could 'conceivably' beat him, then I guess the question remains between Cap and Black Panther, doesn't it?

This is where it gets tricky...

*nods*

This will, almost definitely, come down to Captain America vs. Black Panther, which I would see going either way, in a normal occasion. Five out of ten.

However, since this is after some particularly hard fights from DareDevil, and Batman...I think Captain America would edge him out. I believe Captain America has better stamina, so I would give Captain America the win here. By a (pretty damn) slight majority.

Originally posted by Soljer
*nods*

This will, almost definitely, come down to Captain America vs. Black Panther, which I would see going either way, in a normal occasion. Five out of ten.

However, since this is after some particularly hard fights from DareDevil, and Batman...I think Captain America would edge him out. I believe Captain America has better stamina, so I would give Captain America the win here. By a (pretty damn) slight majority.

I can accept that, Captain America does has insane Stamina, but thats his only edge in this fight. He could easily be taking out by batman with a pressure point strike while his attention was focused on BP or DD.

See what I mean, to many variables.

Originally posted by Apolloknight
I can accept that, Captain America does has insane Stamina, but thats his only edge in this fight. He could easily be taking out by batman with a pressure point strike while his attention was focused on BP or DD.

See what I mean, to many variables.

*nods* There are too many scenarios. Who goes up against who, who tries to hang back in the shadows, who could get the drop on who.

Each fighter could make a surprise attack on someone else. For example, Captain America could easily be fighting...say, Matt. He knocks Daredevil down for a moment, tosses his shield at Bruce while HE is busy with Black Panther.

See? Too many variables.

In situations like this, you cannot really say "Well...in this ONE situation, this character wins...so he wins every time!" you really have to look at who is just the BEST character. Who has the most skills (relatively equal here) who has the best physique (Captain America and Black Panther) who is the most cunning? (Black Panther and Bruce) Who has the other edges? (Indestructible shield, or almost pre-cog senses.)

Taking all these factors into account, I think that it will eventually come down to the argument of Black Panther and Captain America. This fight could EASILY go either way - go look at the thread detailing it. However, I still maintain that an edge in endurance will best T'Challa after the (most definitely) long fight that had just taken place.

Yea, It won't be likely for BP to tag Cap with his claws or dagger. Cap is too good with that sheild. But DD has a major advantage. But I wpould say Cap has the best advantage. Being thye best out of the four physically and having the only indestructible object and being **** good with it.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Nope. Black Panther is the most physically-perfect specimen (by a VERY small margin) here.

And since there is no prep and bloodlust is on, then Black Panther wins.

Excuse me 😱

Can Black Panther operate for nearly a week alone , can his body keep up the strain of fighting for hours on end and never tire ?

Has Bp ever cut a damn truck in half By throwing something at it

Because Cap certainly has

Steve all the way 😎

Originally posted by grey fox
Excuse me 😱

Can Black Panther operate for nearly a week alone , can his body keep up the strain of fighting for hours on end and never tire ?

Has Bp ever cut a damn truck in half [b]By throwing something at it

Because Cap certainly has

Steve all the way 😎 [/B]

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Cap is physically superior to BP IMO.

Originally posted by Darth Martin
Cap is physically superior to BP IMO.

Hell even their respective power ups are stronger 'Steroids' pwn 'Herbs'.

Bump.

Originally posted by grey fox
Excuse me 😱

Can Black Panther operate for nearly a week alone , can his body keep up the strain of fighting for hours on end and never tire ?

Has Bp ever cut a damn truck in half [b]By throwing something at it

Because Cap certainly has

Steve all the way 😎 [/B]

Yes he can actually, and that was a nice feat by the way, the whole cutting a truck in half thing. But BP wrestles, crocodiles, panthers, Rhinos, and he even once stopped the Charge of a 5 ton elephant......with his hands......yes.

Your point? There are normal every day people now living that wrestle crocs and cats.

The elephant is a little more impressive, but not compared to all the feats under Cap's belt.

Originally posted by Soljer
Your point? There are normal every day people now living that wrestle crocs and cats.

The elephant is a little more impressive, but not compared to all the feats under Cap's belt.

Stopping the charge of an elephant with his bare hands is only a little more impressive. I would like to see capt do it 😕

Originally posted by Apolloknight
Stopping the charge of an elephant with his bare hands is only a little more impressive. I would like to see capt do it 😕

Likewise, I would like to see T'Challa step up and match any number of the feats Steve has pulled off.