Street Level Rumble!!!!

Started by Apolloknight3 pages
Originally posted by Soljer
Likewise, I would like to see T'Challa step up and match any number of the feats Steve has pulled off.

Give me a few of his feats, I'll see what I can muster up. 😉

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Nope. Black Panther is the most physically-perfect specimen (by a VERY small margin) here.

And since there is no prep and bloodlust is on, then Black Panther wins.

oh really???? every black panther bio ever written says otherwise though.

Originally posted by King KAM
oh really???? every black panther bio ever written says otherwise though.

Hmm, have you read marvel.coms. 😉

Originally posted by Apolloknight
Yes he can actually, and that was a nice feat by the way, the whole cutting a truck in half thing. But BP wrestles, crocodiles, panthers, Rhinos, and he even once stopped the Charge of a 5 ton elephant......with his hands......yes.
id like to see this, and cap caught a torpedo. bare handed

Originally posted by King KAM
id like to see this, and cap caught a torpedo. bare handed

http://img41.imageshack.us/my.php?image=animals2.jpg

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Originally posted by Apolloknight
Hmm, have you read marvel.coms. 😉
oh yeah that says he is super-human but unless he recently got upgraded and i mean REAL recent he was always Almost pinnacle of human perfection, and i need to see some super-human feats, please.

Originally posted by Apolloknight
http://img41.imageshack.us/my.php?image=animals2.jpg

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can i see the pages before and after please?

http://img140.imageshack.us/my.php?image=captainamericav1402ocd045do.jpg

http://img70.imageshack.us/my.php?image=captainamerica228171nu.jpg

http://img138.imageshack.us/my.php?image=captainamerica156197ue.jpg (Versus his 'superhuman superior'😉

http://img118.imageshack.us/my.php?image=captainamerica37story2page046s.jpg

http://img212.imageshack.us/my.php?image=captainamerica244155lg.jpg

http://img137.imageshack.us/my.php?image=captainamerica369185pq.jpg
http://img137.imageshack.us/my.php?image=captainamerica370011ji.jpg

http://img100.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ca010087zv.jpg

http://img67.imageshack.us/my.php?image=avengersv1037160np.jpg Notice that it is noted that Captain America is as fast as quicksilver.

http://img211.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cap339pg180cl.jpg

http://img271.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ca21053pc.jpg

http://img500.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ca25045hl.jpg

http://img129.imageshack.us/my.php?image=captainamerica308204lf.jpg

And you talking about animals, right?
http://img132.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc24&image=d2441_beastneck.jpg

http://img76.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wca064204et.jpg
http://img89.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wca064212pj.jpg

Oh, and Captain America runs at the speed of light:
http://img15.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc24&image=caf17_speedlight.jpg

And impressing Iron Man with his strength? Hurting Spider man, scorpion, taking out namor. Beating an elephant in tug of war?

Just off the top of my head, friend. I'm sure KAM can think of a hell of a lot more Cap feats than I can - he is a bigger fan.

Bump - I was never given a rebuttal.

Originally posted by Soljer
http://img140.imageshack.us/my.php?image=captainamericav1402ocd045do.jpg

http://img70.imageshack.us/my.php?image=captainamerica228171nu.jpg

http://img138.imageshack.us/my.php?image=captainamerica156197ue.jpg (Versus his 'superhuman superior'😉

http://img118.imageshack.us/my.php?image=captainamerica37story2page046s.jpg

http://img212.imageshack.us/my.php?image=captainamerica244155lg.jpg

http://img137.imageshack.us/my.php?image=captainamerica369185pq.jpg
http://img137.imageshack.us/my.php?image=captainamerica370011ji.jpg

http://img100.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ca010087zv.jpg

http://img67.imageshack.us/my.php?image=avengersv1037160np.jpg Notice that it is noted that Captain America is as fast as quicksilver.

http://img211.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cap339pg180cl.jpg

http://img271.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ca21053pc.jpg

http://img500.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ca25045hl.jpg

http://img129.imageshack.us/my.php?image=captainamerica308204lf.jpg

And you talking about animals, right?
http://img132.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc24&image=d2441_beastneck.jpg

http://img76.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wca064204et.jpg
http://img89.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wca064212pj.jpg

Oh, and Captain America runs at the speed of light:
http://img15.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc24&image=caf17_speedlight.jpg

And impressing Iron Man with his strength? Hurting Spider man, scorpion, taking out namor. Beating an elephant in tug of war?

Just off the top of my head, friend. I'm sure KAM can think of a hell of a lot more Cap feats than I can - he is a bigger fan.

You are joking with them notes on the "He runs as fast as light" and "he is as fast as quicksilver" thingy right, I mean even though the comic says it, we all know he isnt.

So he takes down a one big cat, big deal, Black Panther fights animals to train on a daily basis.

And BP did not impress Iron man, he beat him, and he didnt Hurt Spiderman, he bested him. 😉

Originally posted by Soljer
[url]And impressing Iron Man with his strength? Hurting Spider man, scorpion, taking out namor. Beating an elephant in tug of war?

Just off the top of my head, friend. I'm sure KAM can think of a hell of a lot more Cap feats than I can - he is a bigger fan.

I don't really have an answer to all of those since I really don't have any scans on me here. However I can debate a few.

For example. I hope you know that some of those things said "Your speed rivals that of Quicksilver's!" is really not valid. I mean, so he said it. If Cyclops said to Squid Boy, "Your strength rivals that of Savage Hulk!", would it really mean it was true? Cap can, in no way, rival the speed of Quicksilver.

Let alone the speed of light. 🙄

And to be completely honest, Black Panther stopping a CHARGING elephant in its tracks is FAR more impressive than Cap beating an elephant in tug of war. But hey, that's just my opinion.

*laughs* The speed of light thing was a joke. Please don't believe that I thought the scan proves he ACTUALLY ran the speed of light. Give me a LITTLE credit.

Oh, and besides that, Quicksilver himself has stated that Cap can dodge at speeds similar to his own. And, I can't count the number of times Cap has easily tagged Quicksilver, or other speedsters.

But seriously. The speed of light was a joke. Heh.

If you really think about it, though, stopping an elephant is a multifaceted feat. Strength/durability/endurance. The strength to brace his body against the ground, and then the durability and endurance to keep it there. Then, the elephant would have to stop, as he would, effectively, be pushing against the ground. Besides, I would say that skill comes into it a bit as well.

I still have only seen one good strength feat for the panther (the elephant), and have presented tons for Cap.

Oh, and the wrestling the cats/crocs doesn't really impress me, as my uncle used to wrestle Crocodiles, and I definitely don't think that puts him above the peak human range 😉.

Originally posted by Soljer
*laughs* The speed of light thing was a joke. Please don't believe that I thought the scan proves he ACTUALLY ran the speed of light. Give me a LITTLE credit.

Oh, and besides that, Quicksilver himself has stated that Cap can dodge at speeds similar to his own. And, I can't count the number of times Cap has easily tagged Quicksilver, or other speedsters.

But seriously. The speed of light was a joke. Heh.

If you really think about it, though, stopping an elephant is a multifaceted feat. Strength/durability/endurance. The strength to brace his body against the ground, and then the durability and endurance to keep it there. Then, the elephant would have to stop, as he would, effectively, be pushing against the ground. Besides, I would say that skill comes into it a bit as well.

I still have only seen one good strength feat for the panther (the elephant), and have presented tons for Cap.

Oh, and the wrestling the cats/crocs doesn't really impress me, as my uncle used to wrestle Crocodiles, and I definitely don't think that puts him above the peak human range 😉.

I doubt your uncle used to wrestle and kill full-grown, rampaging rhinos with his bare hands, however. 😉

And there are more strength feats on Black Panther's side, I just don't necessarily have them on me at the moment. Though I'm sure you'd be quite enlightened after checking out the Black Panther Respect thread.

Edit: And no, I didn't think you were serious about the "Speed of light" thing. I, too, was just kinda messing with ya. 😛

Originally posted by Metalmanx
I doubt your uncle used to wrestle and kill full-grown, rampaging rhinos with his bare hands, however. 😉

And there are more strength feats on Black Panther's side, I just don't necessarily have them on me at the moment. Though I'm sure you'd be quite enlightened after checking out the Black Panther Respect thread.

Edit: And no, I didn't think you were serious about the "Speed of light" thing. I, too, was just kinda messing with ya. 😛

I have some more feats of his, I'm at work right now so I don't have access to them.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
I doubt your uncle used to wrestle and kill full-grown, rampaging rhinos with his bare hands, however. 😉

And there are more strength feats on Black Panther's side, I just don't necessarily have them on me at the moment. Though I'm sure you'd be quite enlightened after checking out the Black Panther Respect thread.

Edit: And no, I didn't think you were serious about the "Speed of light" thing. I, too, was just kinda messing with ya. 😛

I've checked out the Black Panther respect thread. Both here, and another that was either on SuperHeroHype, or SuperHeroChat (I believe it was linked to in OUR respect thread). I saw some pretty impressive showings, however, I didn't see anything that made me surmise that Black Panther was in any way Cap's superior physically.

Except for agility. Cap never seemed incredibly agile.

Again, the best showings I could find for strength was Animals. The Elephant, Crocs, Cats, and, aye, I saw the rhino feat as well.

Just so no one claims I'm misrepresenting the Black Panther, here are some feats I found for HIM:

The strength of a lion does not compare to T'challa's.
He:
Stops a rhino
Wrestles a croc
Beats a gorilla
Breaks some chains holding him to a water wheel
fights a polar bear
busts through brick
carries a heavy throne
wrestles 2 panthers

Impressive, but most of the showings with the animals weren't true strength feats. As I've explained, it showcases his skill and agility (in the fights), and his durability (with the elephant) much more than his strength. Besides that, none of those feats out-match what I think Captain America has shown consistently capable of.

And now, one of my favorite moments in comics;
http://img156.imageshack.us/my.php?image=brothers29ki.jpg

Showcases my point perfectly. They are evenly matched. 5/10. Draw. Brothers.

Originally posted by Soljer

http://img156.imageshack.us/my.php?image=brothers29ki.jpg

Showcases my point perfectly. They are evenly matched. 5/10. Draw. Brothers.

I cant lie, I love that scan too. 😄

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