Originally posted by Mindship
Regarding Batman with the motherbox against Darkseid: after Batman had been hit twice by Darkseid, Batman thought, "The beating I'm taking is only for his personal enjoyment. But, Barda's Mother Box will protect me from him for only so long."Sounds to me like the MB, therefore, is Not so much more powerful than Darkseid that Batman would be thinking that after being hit only 2x.
No seriously, the motherbox is more powerfu by a huge margin. 😬
Originally posted by Mr Master
So the Motherbox is a Universal weapon.NOT a Multi-versal one.
Read my prior post Mr. Master. The motherbox does the same thing as the UN in what I have seen of your scans. Recreates everything without Darkseids taint.
There is no multiverse to recreate in DC as the multiverse was retconned long ago.
Originally posted by Mr Master
Actually the Ultimate Nullifier can destroy a single entity, a galaxy, a Universe or the Multi-verse...It's power has manifested in these different levels in the several times it's been used.
Abraxas killed Galactus and his other selves to ensure his freedom.
Abraxas causes the Multiverse to fold in on itself by his presence, not because of Galactus or other Galactuses dying..
Abraxas IS the inbalance between Eternity and Death.
Abraxas is an Aspect of Galactus just like the Ultimate Nullifier is.
Abraxas caused the Entire Multiverse to becomed misaligned.
Reed Richards in the end of the Abraxas arc had to Destroy and Remake the Multi-verse in order to Realign all that was Misaligned.
a few corrections
abraxas is an aspect of ETERNITY not galactus.
the ultimate nullifier isnt an aspect of galactus but is a device built by aliens in the main marvel universe
reed richards destroyed abraxas from existance and THAT also erased all of abraxas's doing from the multiverse making it as if it never had happened it wasnt the power of the nullifier but the significance of the death of the trouble maker. the nullifire only had enough power to kill him not do anything more.
Originally posted by leonheartmmyour about to be masterbated....
a few correctionsabraxas is an aspect of ETERNITY not galactus.
the ultimate nullifier isnt an aspect of galactus but is a device built by aliens in the main marvel universe
reed richards destroyed abraxas from existance and THAT also erased all of abraxas's doing from the multiverse making it as if it never had happened it wasnt the power of the nullifier but the significance of the death of the trouble maker. the nullifire only had enough power to kill him not do anything more.
Originally posted by leonheartmm
not true, theres no evidence for the nullifier having multiversal creative or destructive power. its only killed galactus, abraxas and a universe till now.
I'll uhh show you the evidence in this post of the UN Destroying and Remaking the Multi-verse.
Originally posted by leonheartmm
abraxas is a UNIVERSAL entity which came into being after galactus was killed as a result of the imbalance created in the UNIVERSAL eternity by galactus's death.
A Universal entity with power on a Multi-versal scale.
When was killing Reed Richards across ALL realities simultaneously he did it from 616.
Abraxas IS the manisfestation of that Inbalance.
So it is his power that brings inbalance to the Multi-verse.
Don't be too surprised by this...
Abraxas is an Aspect of Galactus just like the UN is.
Although obviously his Aspects are far more dangerous than he will ever hope to be.
Originally posted by leonheartmm
he only became a threat to the multiverse when USING the ultimate nullifier stolen from reed
This is just flat out incorrect.
Reed never had the UN till the last 3 pages of the last issue of the series.
The UN was in another Universe...it took 4 Human Torches from alternate Universes to find the UN,
Why?... Because UATU had planted a piece of the directions to the location of the UN, into 4 Human Torches from seperate realities.
And the Mutli-verse was Folding WAY before Abraxas got his hands on the UN....Abraxas aquired the UN in the last issue of the series.
Originally posted by leonheartmm
he started universe hopping and killing and collecting the heads of different galactus's and creating imbalances in eternity{the nourisher of life and SINGULAR universes} in more than one universe using the nullifier.
I don't no where you got this from.
Abraxas only decapitated ONE Galactus.
Abraxas killed other Galactuses with his own power....WAY before he had his hands on the UN....In fact, Abraxas NEVER even got to USE the Ultimate Nullifier during the entire series.
Now the Proof:
Here Reed says "our Earth is merging with other Alternates"...how can this be...unless the entire Multiverse is misaligned.
Here Nova says "creatures of the MULTIVERSE Mixing --- Reality folding onto itself" again this Multiversal misalignment is literally ripping the Multiverse apart.
Finally what does this lead to?
Reed, "In order to REALIGN ALL that is...we had to END ALL that was.
What was MISALIGNED? The MULTI-VERSE!
How was this done?
By Reed using the Ultimate Nullifier to banish Abraxas, & Remake the Multiverse to "REALIGN ALL that is"
i explained before the multiverse was misalligned because of abraxas's dimension hoping antics not because abraxas posessed multiversal power. if he had multiversal power he wouldnt have to GO to every universe to kill of each galactus, he could just will it to happen.
and look at your own scans again more carefully reed says to reallign all that was we we have to end all that was which meant ABRAXAS and his older fd up actions. it was destroying ABRAXAS that undid all his misallignment NOT the individual power of the nullifier. its not the bloody heart of the universe its an alien scientific DEVICE.
Right here we go.
Abraxas is a multiversal being, the only one in existence.
His prison is MULTIEternity, not Eternity.
The doorway's to his prison is Galactus.
When Galactus died in ONE universe, Abraxas was free to escape.
Abraxas is above beings such as eternity. He did something noone else has ever done. He killed every reed richards across the multiverse just by thinking it. Not even Thanos with IG or HOTU or Cosmic Cube has ever shown that kind of ability. Noone has.
He went dimension hopping killing one Galactus after another, and yet, no other Abraxas's showed up. If Abraxas were a facet of Eternity, released by the death of Galactus. Why was abraxas running with 20 other Abraxas.. or more. Each had the power to cross dimensions. It would have been a simple matter to have the maximum power potential. The reason why he killed Galactus's in other dimensions is because that he knew Galactus, when killed, gestates inside the universal Eternity, and that if that universe is killed, Abraxas returns to being imprisoned. Hence you keep open as many doors as possible.
What reed did reed shoot at. He killed off that aspect of the multiverse where each galactus had been killed. In doing so, galactus was never killed, and abraxas returned to prison.
Now. back to work. 😛
Originally posted by leonheartmm
i explained before the multiverse was misalligned because of abraxas's dimension hoping antics not because abraxas posessed multiversal power.
I know what you explained...and you were wrong.
Originally posted by leonheartmm
if he had multiversal power he wouldnt have to GO to every universe to kill of each galactus, he could just will it to happen.
You mean like this.
Or is killing the Multi-versal guardian with a kiss more impressive.
Originally posted by leonheartmm
and look at your own scans again more carefully reed says to reallign all that was we we have to end all that was which meant ABRAXAS and his older fd up actions.
I think you, should give it a second glance friend.
So in your opinion(which is what it is)
Nullifying Abraxas automatically realigned the Multi-verse.
Automatically revived ALL those Galactuses that were killed.
Automatically resurrected Silver Surfer, Namorita amongst others.
Originally posted by leonheartmm
it was destroying ABRAXAS that undid all his misallignment NOT the individual power of the nullifier.
ok...
So what was the point of this again?
If all he had to do was kill Abraxas why do that.
By the way Reed seems to think the UN can destroy the Multi-verse too...besides the fact that he did it himself.
Originally posted by leonheartmm
its not the bloody heart of the universe its an alien scientific DEVICE.
Actually it's as much a PART of Galactus as his own HEART...I believe I'm quoting Galactus...
Understand it's in this arc that we find out the UN is an Aspect of Galactus.
The old story of it being alien tech has been retconned.
Originally posted by batdude123JLA Rock of Ages Orion used the motherbox to remake reality, since Darkseid had conquered it. That particular one is the GENESIS Box.
Again, Juntai...
They can be used for time and dimension travel..
To equip a user with weapons and armor..
Controls all tech...
Communicates with The Source.
Originally posted by AvalonofthewindTo be fair he only had the ring on for a panel, and didn't even seem to strain and certainly didn't pass out like Ollie did when he tried to use the ring once. If Batman could remove his fears and the darkness from his heart, he would be one badass GL. But then.. that wouldn't be Batman. lol.
Abraxas wins. Bats wouldn't get the motherbox I depicted for one, and a standard motherbox isn't going to help much.Bruce also isn't all the imaginative with a ring as shown recently.
Originally posted by complexbrother
why do people choose to ridiculously over power there favorite comic charaters and favorite PIS objects ? look at the official comic company's charts to get a reading on how powerful somthing or someone is ?(I just did and in no way is the motherbox is as powerful as some of you make it out to be)
On panel feats trump bios.
