Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Christian Bale wasn't an unknown and is a poor example to illustrate unknowns in lead roles.
*sigh* Read again, you'll notice I did not say he was an unknown...
Originally posted by Praylu
Yes, but he was not well known (as those previously mentioned) and stuck closely to independent or lesser known films.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Christian Bale wasn't an unknown and is a poor example to illustrate unknowns in lead roles.
At the time he was casted for BB, he certainly wasn't A-List.
He was probably best known for American Psycho and Reign of Fire. Prior to that, Empire of the Sun.
True he wasn't a complete unknown, but he certainly wasn't a household name.
Originally posted by PrayluIn the context of this quote in which Batman is used as an example it is implied 😬
*sigh* Read again, you'll notice I did not say he was an unknown...
Originally posted by Praylu
I know exactly what you mean but as far as title roles, particularly Superman/Batman/etc. goes....
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
In the context of this quote in which Batman is used as an example it is implied 😬
I made sure to make it clearly obvious he was not, in this post after the one your referring to. 😬
You'll take notice to the fact I mentioned "he was not well known as those previously mentioned" meaning those listed in your post prior to the below.
Originally posted by Praylu
Yes, but he was not well known (as those previously mentioned) and stuck closely to independent or lesser known films.
😬 This:
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Christian Bale wasn't an unknown and is a poor example to illustrate unknowns in lead roles.
Originally posted by Praylu
I know exactly what you mean but as far as title roles, particularly Superman/Batman/etc. goes....
Originally posted by Silverstein
YE YE JCi dont really care big name or not, if the actor is a good actor, they should get that person. Not limit the casting to unknowns.
Originally posted by Praylu
No I meant Clark Gable and artic wolverines, yes Brandon Routh and Hugh Jackman.You claimed the casting should not be limited to unkowns within the casting of Iron Man and I followed this by implying that selecting previously unknown actors for X-Men & Superman worked for the best. Viweres find themselves more easily immersed into the universe & characters when the lead actor is not someone highly known or famous. You want to say "Hey looks it's Batman!", not say "Hey look it's Tom Cruise as Batman!".
Get my drift?
Originally posted by pr1983
true... although... patrick stewart, kelsey grammar...
Originally posted by Praylu
I know exactly what you mean but as far as title roles, particularly Superman/Batman/etc. goes....
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
A talented actor, with a good script and direction makes the portrayal believable. I don't see Charlize Theron in Monster I see Aileen Wuornos, Patrick Stewart became Xavier in X-Men, there aren't flashing lights in my head screaming Ian McKellen when I see Gandalf in LOTRs. Brandon Routh was still just a guy in a costume trying to emulate Christopher Reeve in SR.An unknown is not necessary for a believable portrayal, nor does it guarantee one.
Originally posted by Praylu[/B][/QUOTE]
Actually....[QUOTE=7027532]Originally posted by Praylu
[B]I know exactly what you mean but as far as title roles, particularly Superman/Batman/etc. goes....
This is what transpired...
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Batman? The first role I saw Christian Bale in was Empire of the Sun.
Originally posted by Praylu
Yes, but he was not well known (as those previously mentioned) and stuck closely to independent or lesser known films.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Christian Bale wasn't an unknown and is a poor example to illustrate unknowns in lead roles.
And as I mentioned before, reading the post above would make it clear I did not refer to Bale as an unkown but rather less known, regardless of what you may have thought the other post implied seeing as this one was after the one in question. 😉
Additionally in reality he was virtually unknown to the mainstream eye, bar the cult following he had developed prior to his casting in Batman Begins which is not remotely near a "well known" level.
Good day....
Originally posted by Praylu
This is what transpired...And as I mentioned before, reading the post above would make it clear I did not refer to Bale as an unkown but rather less known, regardless of what you may have thought the other post implied seeing as this one was after the one in question. 😉
Additionally in reality he was virtually unknown to the mainstream eye, bar the cult following he had developed prior to his casting in Batman Begins which is not remotely near a "well known" level.
Good day....
You took my 15 mins... cry
Originally posted by PrayluThe thread is about who should be cast as Iron Man. You've maintained an unknown would be best. You used Batman as an example of how title roles with unknowns are better. I referred to that comment in the context of the thread as a whole - Christian Bale i.e. Batman is a poor example to illustrate unknowns in lead roles.
This is what transpired...And as I mentioned before, reading the post above would make it clear I did not refer to Bale as an unkown but rather less known, regardless of what you may have thought the other post implied seeing as this one was after the one in question. 😉
Additionally in reality he was virtually unknown to the mainstream eye, bar the cult following he had developed prior to his casting in Batman Begins which is not remotely near a "well known" level.
Good day....
The only recent example that comes to mind is Jackman's Wolverine portrayal. Routh was a destitute man's Christopher Reeve.
The only thing that matters in the end is acting ability.
You took pr's 15 minutes. You fiend!
Originally posted by Praylu
Sorry 😮Btw, I'm off now and I'll be posting in the rp later.
Good 😄
read the updates section too...
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
The thread is about who should be cast as Iron Man. You've maintained an unknown would be best. You used Batman as an example of how title roles with unknowns are better. I referred to that comment in the context of the thread as a whole - Christian Bale i.e. Batman is a poor example to illustrate unknowns in lead roles.The only recent example that comes to mind is Jackman's Wolverine portrayal. Routh was a destitute man's Christopher Reeve.
You took pr's 15 minutes. You fiend!
hysterical
you guys are awesome... 😆
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
The thread is about who should be cast as Iron Man. You've maintained an unknown would be best. You used Batman as an example of how title roles with unknowns are better. I referred to that comment - Christian Bale i.e. Batman is a poor example to illustrate unknowns in lead roles.The only recent example that comes to mind is Jackman's Wolverine portrayal. Routh was a destitute man's Christopher Reeve.
You took pr's 15 minutes. You fiend!
I suppose we can agree to disagree regarding Bale's state of popularity among movie-goers, however I do believe this link speaks for itself: http://www.boxofficemojo.com/people/chart/?id=christianbale.htm
Routh as Superman is up to personal opinion.
You provoked it 😛
Originally posted by pr1983
Good 😄read the updates section too...
hysterical
you guys are awesome... 😆
Will do, 👆
Praylu never fails to amuse, 😛