Marka Ragnos versus Shimrra

Started by Darth Sexy15 pages

No, Maul was a sith lord. According to Bane's new sith order, there is the master(DLOTS), and the apprentice(Sith Lord).

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
Since when is Dooku a DLOTS? I'm confused. He's a sith lord, where does it ever state him being a DLOTS? That's as ridiculous as calling Maul a DLOTS

It's the "Order of the Dark Lords of the Sith". Both are referred to as "Sith Lords" and "Dark Lords of the Sith".

Show me where. I've never seen this crap, the movies called him and Maul Sith Lords. I forgot that after Exar Kun, any fool can declare himself a DLOTS

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
Show me where. I've never seen this crap, the movies called him and Maul Sith Lords. I forgot that after Exar Kun, any fool can declare himself a DLOTS

RotS novelization, Palpatine refers to Bane's sect as "the Order of the Dark Lords of the Sith." And they are both referred as Sith Lords.

So how the hell can you have 2 DLOTS escape? That's retarded. And not that I'm saying the novel contradicts the movie, but there's nothing in the movies that suggests that Dooku and Maul were DLOTS. Obviously Vader is different. But I don't understand how bane's sect would mean Dooku and Maul were DLOTS

It's moreso of a nod to Kaan's "Brotherhood of Dark Lords".

Both of the reigning Sith hold the title; "Dark Lord of the Sith".

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
So how the hell can you have 2 DLOTS escape? That's retarded. And not that I'm saying the novel contradicts the movie, but there's nothing in the movies that suggests that Dooku and Maul were DLOTS. Obviously Vader is different. But I don't understand how bane's sect would mean Dooku and Maul were DLOTS

Dude, Vader held the same position that Maul and Dooku did. Sidious just personally preferred Vader to the others. They are the same.

Well like I said, apparently anybody with a pulse can call himself a DLOTS, so it kinda sucks out the beauty, power, and creativity out of that title don't you think?

Erm, WTF? If that person is self-appointed; yes. But Maul, Dooku and the other apprentices in Bane's order weren't self-appointed, bizarrely enough.

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
Well like I said, apparently anybody with a pulse can call himself a DLOTS, so it kinda sucks out the beauty, power, and creativity out of that title don't you think?

What the hell are you talking about?

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
Well like I said, apparently anybody with a pulse can call himself a DLOTS, so it kinda sucks out the beauty, power, and creativity out of that title don't you think?

In the same token, it's kinda sad when people claim that some long dead Sith Lord possesses more power than the guy who was called "the revenge of the Sith" and "the one powerful enough to bring about their return". The same man who was destined to take over the galaxy, create the largest military Force known to man, had thousands and thousands of years of knowledge to consume, exterminated the Jedi Order, built more Dark Side knowledge, and required the entire long dead spirits of the Jedi Order to obliterate him.

Wouldn't you think?

Kind've takes the beauty out of Star Wars' major villain, doesn't it?

Well I'm saying in my mind the title meant something when the likes of Kun was appointed, Ragnos, Sadow, etc.. After that you had Revan and Malak and the rest since Sidious appoint themselves or what not.

Originally posted by Escape81
In the same token, it's kinda sad when people claim that some long dead Sith Lord possesses more power than the guy who was called "the revenge of the Sith" and "the one powerful enough to bring about their return". The same man who was destined to take over the galaxy, create the largest military Force known to man, had thousands and thousands of years of knowledge to consume, exterminated the Jedi Order, built more Dark Side knowledge, and required the entire long dead spirits of the Jedi Order to obliterate him.

Wouldn't you think?

Kind've takes the beauty out of Star Wars' major villain, doesn't it?

Meh, Sidious was a benefactor of circumstance. He was a damn good manipulator who adapted to his situation, but he was a benefactor of circumstance nontheless.

Originally posted by Swirly Girl
Meh, Sidious was a benefactor of circumstance. He was a damn good manipulator who adapted to his situation, but he was a benefactor of circumstance nontheless.

I disagree.

Benefactor of circumstance? Are you implying that what he did was practically handed to him?

Originally posted by Escape81
In the same token, it's kinda sad when people claim that some long dead Sith Lord possesses more power than the guy who was called "the revenge of the Sith" and "the one powerful enough to bring about their return". The same man who was destined to take over the galaxy, create the largest military Force known to man, had thousands and thousands of years of knowledge to consume, exterminated the Jedi Order, built more Dark Side knowledge, and required the entire long dead spirits of the Jedi Order to obliterate him.

Wouldn't you think?

Kind've takes the beauty out of Star Wars' major villain, doesn't it?

Gee, the same thing was said about Kun. You can call it what you want, I don't have to sit here and verbally fellate my favorite character with irrelevant feats. I think it's sad to consider ROTS Sidious more powerful than the originals, the ones Sidious went to for learning. Also, please stop saying it required long dead spirits to obliterate him, because that wasn't the case. Perhaps you should read Empire's end again. And your moot is moot because political maneuvering=/personal power. Not sure why you even posted all of that nonsense.

No, and I reiterate "He was a damn good manipulator who adapted to his situation".

But ultimately, he's not the "z0mg t3h u83r C14eus!"

Originally posted by Swirly Girl
Meh, Sidious was a benefactor of circumstance. He was a damn good manipulator who adapted to his situation, but he was a benefactor of circumstance nontheless.

I think she's saying that his political maneuvering and his personal power are two different things, and a benefactor of circumstance could mean the fact that Anakin saved his ass, and then his size and Yoda's disadvantage saved his ass again.

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
Gee, the same thing was said about Kun. You can call it what you want, I don't have to sit here and verbally fellate my favorite character with irrelevant feats. I think it's sad to consider ROTS Sidious more powerful than the originals, the ones Sidious went to for learning. Also, please stop saying it required long dead spirits to obliterate him, because that wasn't the case. Perhaps you should read Empire's end again. And your moot is moot because political maneuvering=/personal power. Not sure why you even posted all of that nonsense.

Rofl. If we want to go by favorites, you'd see me given a "verbal fellatio" to Gilad Pellaeon and General Grievous.

I could easily say that Ragnos is your favorite because you say the same thing that I do about Palpatine. Double standards? Rofl. Won't work.

Gee, go back and re-read what Brand said when he died.

Ragnos is my favorite, but I don't use stupidity like "Well people that think Sidious is the shit are sad". I respect other people's opinions, you obviously don't. And I did re-read the quote. Please don't try to embellish it more than you already have. He said how many jedi he would use to make sure that Palpatine stays dead. Nowhere did it say how many it would take to stop Palpatine, so your point is moot.

'and required the entire long dead spirits of the Jedi Order to obliterate him'

This is not true. You do not know what was required, only that the entire order would make sure. It could have taken less.