Is suicide justifiable?

Bottom line is, people who are opposed to the pro-suicidal shouldn't argue or retaliate. They should just say, "Go Ahead."

I don't follow on that one. The should just ignore their conscience? I agree that force shouldn't be used but if they can talk someone out of it, then I say go for it.

Translation: Hasta La Vista...I've got better things to do than argue with someone who's not going to change anyone in this world's mind.

Originally posted by TheKingofKINGS!
There was a thread in the OTF that caused many of us to believe a certian new member will/has commited suicide. I brought up the thing that suicide isn't justifiable. But my question is "Is suicide justifiable?"

maybe

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Nobody can justify it beside the person doing it, and since they are dead, it's left to those who are around to analyse it.

Yes, it's selfish and very unnecessary, but I do believe it's understandable. I don't think murder is excuseable, but if a man murders another man to save his child, as wrong as it is, I understand that action.

Same with suicide. Unless of course I feel the reason for doing it was pathetic, but then again, they obviously didn't.

-AC

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It's a permanant solution to what is usually a temporary problem.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Nobody can justify it beside the person doing it, and since they are dead, it's left to those who are around to analyse it.

Yes, it's selfish and very unnecessary, but I do believe it's understandable. I don't think murder is excuseable, but if a man murders another man to save his child, as wrong as it is, I understand that action.

Same with suicide. Unless of course I feel the reason for doing it was pathetic, but then again, they obviously didn't.

As a friend said the other day, I don't get all this "Cry for help" stuff. If you genuinely do want to die, you can do it in ways that guarantee death.

-AC

If someone kills somebody else in defense of his child, that's not murder. I believe the legal term is "justifiable homicide".

I'm likewise, it there are times when giving your life to save another could be considered a heroic sacrifice rather than a pathetic suicide. The whole jumping if front of a bullet meant for someone else comes to mind.

I would say yes. I know just how cruel and hard life can be and when it reaches that threshold death seems like the best medication.
I always thought however this is only justifyable if one is ill to the point where living is painful. Also if you are not ill then it is justifyable if and ONLY if you have NO-ONE who loves you or would mind if they never saw you again or had NO-ONE who relied on you in an emotional way. In other words if you have nothing to lose. In THAT case suicide is NOT what I call selfish - its your own life then and you can spend it as you will

Originally posted by TheKingofKINGS!
There was a thread in the OTF that caused many of us to believe a certian new member will/has commited suicide. I brought up the thing that suicide isn't justifiable. But my question is "Is suicide justifiable?"

Mostly, I say no because suicide is devastating to friends and family. The pain that is caused by say, a son commiting suicide to his mother and father is never justifiable, and anyone who does commit suicide is thinking of themselves instead of the ones who love them

So no more seppukku?

suicide

normally justifiable to the victim but not justifiable to the loved ones{and not blood reletives but people who reeally do love the victim}