Originally posted by Dirty Vader
Mel Gibson's a smart man and was a cool actor. What he said is actually true, but most of the ignorants just bite on what the media wants them to believe and now despise him.I find it amusing how this was released to the press now, while Israel is causing problems and killing innocent civilians.
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*shields himself from upcoming flames*
well, one was a mindset which sparked a cinematic fiasco and gave further justification to antisemetism and obnoxious bible beating of millions, while the other is a crime committed by countless idiots daily. not trying to determine the greater evil, just which has the greater impact, and i think osama bin gibson has had more of an effect on people with his hatred for jews than his drunk driving.
Yes, while one is legal, and one is illegal, and the legal act is getting more press and negative attention than the illegal act.
My point wasn't which had a greater impact, but which was more dangerous. The fact that he could have killed someone driving drunk, caused physical harm, and that's not what people seem concerned about just show foolish priorities on their part. If people are going to condemn him for something, pick the worst thing he did that night, which wasn't bashing jews.
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Originally posted by BackFire
Yeah, you know what? Mel Gibson saying some shit about Jews shouldn't be news either, his feelings about Jews were on display for all to see in The Passion of the Christ.
Right, because Jesus wasn't a Jew, his disciples weren't Jewish, and the religious leaders of the day that wanted him put to death weren't Jewish.
It was all a plot to rile up the Jew-haters!
Damn that racist Mel Gibson, blurring the lines between true historical fact and personal bigotry and fiction.
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Originally posted by xmarksthespot
You can't blur a line when your source material is fiction.
Right, because there wasn't even a real Jesus of Nazerath, who was crucified under the govennor Pontius Pilot, under the charge that he was claiming to be the son of God.
I totally forgot, X.
And the Roman historical documents to that effect are all just as "fiction" as the Bible, what the hell was I thinking?
I don't know, probably the same things as all the historians, government officials, and philosophers who lived since him that decided the very HISTORY OF TIME should be measured by his life-span. (i.e., Before Christ and A.D. Latin for: In the Year of our Lord.)
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Originally posted by sithsaber408
Right, because Jesus wasn't a Jew, his disciples weren't Jewish, and the religious leaders of the day that wanted him put to death weren't Jewish.It was all a plot to rile up the Jew-haters!
Damn that racist Mel Gibson, blurring the lines between true historical fact and personal bigotry and fiction.
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Not sure what you're getting at here.
Many felt Passion of the Christ was antisemantic, as nearly all Jewish people on screen were basically hissing and breathing fire.
His statements made while drunk only confirm what many already knew, the man has a distaste for Jews.
Originally posted by sithsaber408I don't doubt a man named Yoshua bin Yosef existed. I don't doubt that man was executed. That doesn't take away from the source material being fiction.
Right, because there wasn't even a real Jesus of Nazerath, who was crucified under the govennor Pontius Pilot, under the charge that he was claiming to be the son of God.I totally forgot, X.
And the Roman historical documents to that effect are all just as "fiction" as the Bible, what the hell was I thinking?
I don't know, probably the same things as all the historians, government officials, and philosophers who lived since him that decided the very HISTORY OF TIME should be measured by his life-span. (i.e., [B]B
efore Christ and A.D. Latin for: In the Year of our Lord.)soap [/B]
The measure of time is an arbitrary manmade concept. Using it as an example to try and validate the Christian Bible only serves to exemplify my point.
@ Backfire:
I know.
I'm not arguing Mel Gibsons personal feelings.
I'm arguing that Passion was an accurate recreation of history, based on all available texts, and historical authorities input.
Noboby was "hissing and breathing fire" any more than any religious leaders, anywhere would be if a guy came into their towns, indeed their very temples, and told them that not only were they in the wrong, but that he in fact was the Son of God.
It would get the same reaction in Germany, India, or.... Israel.
Passion was not anti-semetic.
It was an accurate recreation of a series of events.
Its only anti-semetic if you want it to be.
Originally posted by sithsaber408
@ Backfire:I know.
I'm not arguing Mel Gibsons personal feelings.
I'm arguing that Passion was an accurate recreation of history, based on all available texts, and historical authorities input.
Noboby was "hissing and breathing fire" any more than any religious leaders, anywhere would be if a guy came into their towns, indeed their very temples, and told them that not only were they in the wrong, but that he in fact was the Son of God.
It would get the same reaction in Germany, India, or.... Israel.
Passion was not anti-semetic.
Then why, in response to my post, did you act as if I denied Jesus being jewish. I never said The Passion was inaccurate. Reply properly and on point next time.
Indeed, they were hissing and breathing fire to a much greater extent, seeing as if someone did it now, they would not be put to death by crucifiction. They would be ignored or laughed at, and little else.
