Mel Gibson Goes Crazy: Jews Caused All Wars...

Started by sithsaber4085 pages

Originally posted by BackFire
Then why, in response to my post, did you act as if I denied Jesus being jewish. I never said The Passion was inaccurate. Reply properly and on point next time.

Indeed, they were hissing and breathing fire to a much greater extent, seeing as if someone did it now, they would not be put to death by crucifiction. They would be ignored or laughed at, and little else.

I DID read properly and on point.

You said:

Originally posted by BackFire
Yeah, you know what? Mel Gibson saying some shit about Jews shouldn't be news either, his feelings about Jews were on display for all to see in The Passion of the Christ.

So, yes you did.

You said that the Passion was inacurate, or at least, a representation of Mel Gibson's feelings about Jews.

It was niether.

It was a clear picture of what is recorded as having happened, and what would happen in such a case.

The fact that it happened in Israel, among Jews, cannot make the telling of the tale anti-semetic.

And lastly, they were not "breathing fire" to any "greater extent" because the point of the Passion is obviously not "what would happen now" but indeed, what did happen back then.

Again, whilst not being anti-semetic, or having anything to do with Mel Gibsons personal feelings.

Passion of the Christ is anti-semetic to the Jews as Fiddler On the Roof was to the Russians.

Yeah, you know what? Mel Gibson saying some shit about Jews shouldn't be news either, his feelings about Jews were on display for all to see in The Passion of the Christ.

Now show me where I say that The Passion is innacurate. The word "innacurate" isn't even in the above quote. I thought lying was a sin for you people.

What I did say is that, in the movie, Mel Gibson's feelings are there, they're clear if you read between the lines a little. Not only is the movie a glorification of Jesus Christ, but it show's Mel Gibsons distain for Jews. Which again, is backed up by his statements he made while drunk. His statements give validity to the idea that the movie indeed WAS antisemetic. To make it overly clear, none of this means the story itself is innacurate, so don't go lying again, saying that I said it was.

Fiddler on the Roof? Never heard of that movie.

Originally posted by BackFire
The word "innacurate" isn't even in the above quote.
The word "innacurate" isn't even a word...

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
The word "innacurate" isn't even a word...

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Mr. Xmarksthespot, you have been using the Emma Frost avatar & sig for far too long. It's infested you! You're turning into her!

Originally posted by BackFire
Now show me where I say that The Passion is innacurate. The word "innacurate" isn't even in the above quote. I thought lying was a sin for you people.

What I did say is that, in the movie, Mel Gibson's feelings are there, they're clear if you read between the lines a little. Not only is the movie a glorification of Jesus Christ, but it show's Mel Gibsons distain for Jews. Which again, is backed up by his statements he made while drunk. His statements give validity to the idea that the movie indeed WAS antisemetic. To make it overly clear, none of this means the story itself is innacurate, so don't go lying again, saying that I said it was.

Awesome backpeddle. thumbsup

But rather contradictary.

You say that you didn't call Passion "innacurate" but then tell me to read between the lines and see that it's anti-semetic based on Mel Gibson's drunk ramblings.

I am reading between the lines BF, not "lying".

It seems that you think the Passion of the Christ has subliminal anti-semetism in it, and it seems that I, the historical and religious authorities who contributed on the film, and indeed the very history that recorded the events.... don't.

Reading between the lines tells me that you DO feel Passion is inacurate, even if you didn't use that word, becuase you feel it somehow represents Mel Gibsons feelings of Jewish people.

Rather than what happened.

And what happened is that he was hated by the religious leaders of the day, and sentenced to death.

Since he was a Jew, lived in Israel, and was tried and killed there, it would stand to reason that the ones killing him would be Jewish.

That isn't anti-semetism, it's what happened.

(killing, hurting, or slandering a Jewish person for what their ansestors did, would be anti-semetism.)

Reporting it is not.

Whether or not you used the word "inaccurate", your original post was that Mel Gibsons personal feelings, or drunk statements, should surprise nobody, because he made Passion of the Christ.

To which I say "Bullshit."

Becuase that film has nothing to do with hating Jews, and everthing to do with telling the story of Jesus (who was a Jew) giving his life for everybody in this world.

Jews included.

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Originally posted by Draco69
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Mr. Xmarksthespot, you have been using the Emma Frost avatar & sig for far too long. It's infested you! You're turning into her!

I was already cynical and snarky before the sig... the sig just accentuates it nicely.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
I was already cynical and snarky before the sig... the sig just accentuates it nicely.

Hmm....

Yes, I suppose it does fit quite nicely on you....

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Originally posted by sithsaber408
Right, because there wasn't even a real Jesus of Nazerath, who was crucified under the govennor Pontius Pilot, under the charge that he was claiming to be the son of God.

I totally forgot, X.

And the Roman historical documents to that effect are all just as "fiction" as the Bible, what the hell was I thinking?

I don't know, probably the same things as all the historians, government officials, and philosophers who lived since him that decided the very HISTORY OF TIME should be measured by his life-span. (i.e., [B]Before Christ and A.D. Latin for: In the Year of our Lord.)

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so, besides the Bible, the romans have documented proof that the SON OF GOD was crucified for our sins and rose again?
Can i get a link so some of that proof please?

Originally posted by sithsaber408
Right, because Jesus wasn't a Jew, his disciples weren't Jewish, and the religious leaders of the day that wanted him put to death weren't Jewish.

It was all a plot to rile up the Jew-haters!

Damn that racist Mel Gibson, blurring the lines between true historical fact and personal bigotry and fiction.

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What???

Jesus was a WASP!!!!!!!! 馃槢

In my opinion anyone good enough to come up with sugar ti.ts is good enough to have a drunken rant whenever they want. Screw the consequences!!! 馃槅

Originally posted by sithsaber408
[B]Awesome backpeddle. thumbsup

But rather contradictary.

You say that you didn't call Passion "innacurate" but then tell me to read between the lines and see that it's anti-semetic based on Mel Gibson's drunk ramblings.

Lies, once again. I never said the movie was based on his drunk ramblings, or that it was even based on his feelings for jews. That doesn't change that Jews are, as a whole, demonized in the movie. Obviously, this isn't based on his drunken ramblings, they're based on the same feelings that his drunken ramblings were based on.

I am reading between the lines BF, not "lying".

It seems that you think the Passion of the Christ has subliminal anti-semetism in it, and it seems that I, the historical and religious authorities who contributed on the film, and indeed the very history that recorded the events.... don't.

No, I just think the movie is shit, anti-semetic or not. A glorified snuff film to try and guilt people into believing and worshiping Christ. Propaganda, through and through. Before, I wasn't sure the movie was anti-semetic, but now that Mel Gibson has aired his feelings in public, it makes sense. Many ideas and opinions from a filmmaker transcend to the screen during their films. Their passions (Christ) and their prejudices (jews). Knowing now how Gibson truley feels about Jews give much validity to the idea that the movie did have anti-semetic themes.

You are lying because you said that I said that the movie was innacurate, which I never said and which you know.

Reading between the lines tells me that you DO feel Passion is inacurate, even if you didn't use that word, becuase you feel it somehow represents Mel Gibsons feelings of Jewish people.

It represents his feelings about Jesus, and it apparantly represents his prejudice towards jews.

Ha made a movie where the Jewish religion was the villain.

Whether or not you used the word "inaccurate", your original post was that Mel Gibsons personal feelings, or drunk statements, should surprise nobody, because he made Passion of the Christ.

To which I say "Bullshit."

It should surprise no one. Based on the movie it was a theory that he did hate jews. They killed his lord and savior, as shown in the shittacular movie, thus he hates them.

Becuase that film has nothing to do with hating Jews, and everthing to do with telling the story of Jesus (who was a Jew) giving his life for everybody in this world.

Many would disagree, including film experts who make a living dissecting films. You're welcome to your opinion, as they're welcome to theirs. Point is, now that Mad Mel has shown his true colors, their opinions have much more validity than before.

Jews included.

Maybe you should let Gibson know that. Because apparantly he still blames them for everything.

See, the problem is that Sithsaber is reading between the lines, BETWEEN them. Not reading the actual lines, in which BackFire is clearly saying something else.

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On top of that, Sithsabre is giving in to the idea that the Jews are the chosen people of god, which exists in direct contradiction to the text of the New Testament.

**** the Jews, and **** the Muslims. Let them fight it out and the rest of us can go in and make a deal for oil with whom ever is left.

Ironically the piece of land they're fighting over is one of the few Middle Eastern regions that lacks oil deposits...

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Ironically the piece of land they're fighting over is one of the few Middle Eastern regions that lacks oil deposits...

No, it's not ironic. It's fated....as foretold by the word of god. And by god, I mean teh real god.....not this version of him that has been corrupted by the jews. And he is a HE...

Originally posted by BackFire
Yes, while one is legal, and one is illegal, and the legal act is getting more press and negative attention than the illegal act.

My point wasn't which had a greater impact, but which was more dangerous. The fact that he could have killed someone driving drunk, caused physical harm, and that's not what people seem concerned about just show foolish priorities on their part. If people are going to condemn him for something, pick the worst thing he did that night, which wasn't bashing jews.

or we could just call him out for both.

I blame Gibson's backers - Iran, Syria, that whole 'axis of evil' thing...