Thor/No Hammer vs Sasquatch & Thing

Originally posted by aliveinboston
That's basically a surprise attack. Under similar circumstances Thor has beaten down Thanos! Yet Thor is not nearly as strong as Thanos is he?

Thor is not nearly as strong as Thanos based off what? Thanos has yet to show being stronger than Thor. Didnt he beat Thanos down via hammer?

Originally posted by jrodslam
Thor is not nearly as strong as Thanos based off what? Thanos has yet to show being stronger than Thor. Didnt he beat Thanos down via hammer?

I don't think it got quite that far in Blood and Thunder, though he was, IMHO, beginning to get the better of Thanos, at which point he was zapped with the force block...Thor also had the Power gem however because I think Thanos mentioned that even the force block wouldn't long deter Thor and thus they rushed to Asgard.

Originally posted by jrodslam
Wanst one King Thor and the other warrior madness or regular Thor? I understand that 2 were different occasions.

King Thor is regular Thor with powers boosted to near infinite levels by the Odin Power. However, when Thor killed Hulk and Thing with one arm, the Odin Power was unavailable to him and as such was just regular Thor (except for the small matter of being one handed).

Whe Cap was gonna behead Thor, he didnt give Thor a chance to fight back. Plus Cap had him down and was gonna go for the killing blow if not distracted.

Rubbish. Not only would Cap have been unable to behead Thor (he would have lost his fingers trying), Thor was not fighting back because it was made clear that if he fought back the baby would be killed.

Only cause Cap didnt give hit the chance to fight back.

By threatening to kill the baby, not by physically overpowering someone who had just killed Hulk and Thing with one arm.

How was the fight so one sided?

That's what the writer's said so you should ask them.

It was an easy way for the writer to get them out the picture. Hulk dies by being impaled? Thing got beat to death? Thats just as bad as showing(or not showing rather) Wolverine cut Sabertooth into little pieces all over the place alledgedly killing him.

Hulk can recover from anything if he doesnt die before he heals but if hulk is impaled and stays impaled he cannot heal due to the large object preventing his organs from growing back. Had he been impaled and then had the object removed, he would have been fine. Probably he was KO'd and then impaled so that he would not be able to take the object out himself. As a result he died.

Why is it hard to believe that the Thing can be beaten to death? He's been beaten up badly many times before. The only difference is that this time someone decided to finish him off.

Thor was in warrior madness his strength was 10x plus the power gem, Thanos took all that, he bled but was standing.

Originally posted by jrodslam
Thor is not nearly as strong as Thanos based off what? Thanos has yet to show being stronger than Thor. Didnt he beat Thanos down via hammer?

Only when Thanos was distracted by someone or something else. By himself he hasn't had much luck against Thanos. This shows he has the power to put Thanos down but not to overcome Thanos's own power. Also, Thanos held his own to a reasonable extent even after Thor started tapping into the power gem.

Thor was not at 10x his normal str during the blood and thunder series. Nowhere in the whole series does it refer to him as being 10x his normal str that I can remember. Most of the times he is refered to as insane in the series anyway(which leads me to believe he wasnt holding back is all, even the surfer elludes to the fact that he normally holds back). The only time Thor himself has stated anything about 10x his normal str is when he whips himself into a "beserker" fury. The last time he mentioned it was around the time of the onslaught saga. It seems that everyone uses the warrior madness as the same thing. It may have been used in comics other than the blood and thunder series but the meaning isnt the same as a "beserker fury" that Thor talkes about gaining the 10x his str.

Originally posted by aliveinboston
King Thor is regular Thor with powers boosted to near infinite levels by the Odin Power. However, when Thor killed Hulk and Thing with one arm, the Odin Power was unavailable to him and as such was just regular Thor (except for the small matter of being one handed).

So you dont find it a bit odd that Thor can beat Hulk and Thing at the same time with one hand while "regular", yet struggles to beat Hulk alone with 2 hands?

Originally posted by aliveinboston
Rubbish. Not only would Cap have been unable to behead Thor (he would have lost his fingers trying), Thor was not fighting back because it was made clear that if he fought back the baby would be killed.

Why wouldnt Cap have been able to behead Thor? If not behead him, it surely would have killed him. The shield is certainly strong enough for it.

Originally posted by aliveinboston
By threatening to kill the baby, not by physically overpowering someone who had just killed Hulk and Thing with one arm.

Why not fight back? Cap was gonna kill him. Someone was gonna die. It weas either gonna be Thor or the baby and obviously they were gonna try to kill Thor anyways.

Originally posted by aliveinboston
That's what the writer's said so you should ask them.

Now thats rubbish. The writers knew it cause they didnt even bother to put it on panel.

Originally posted by aliveinboston
Hulk can recover from anything if he doesnt die before he heals but if hulk is impaled and stays impaled he cannot heal due to the large object preventing his organs from growing back. Had he been impaled and then had the object removed, he would have been fine. Probably he was KO'd and then impaled so that he would not be able to take the object out himself. As a result he died.

Why is it hard to believe that the Thing can be beaten to death? He's been beaten up badly many times before. The only difference is that this time someone decided to finish him off.

Its all speculation and bs to me. Without the hammer and while "regular" how the hell is Thor knocking out Hulk so easily? With one hand at that. Let alone fighting Thing at the same time. I just cant grasp the fact that Thor can ko Hulk with his fist, then impale him on something. For all we know, Thor could have threw Hulk on the object and Hulk died. That whole fight was screwed up and thats probably why it wasnt on panel.

Its hard to believe Thing was beaten to death because it takes alot of pounding to beat Thing that bad. Thor was regular, but he wasnt even 100% nor had the use of both eyes and arms. That whole thing is just bs to me. Others could buy it, but im not.

Originally posted by aliveinboston
Only when Thanos was distracted by someone or something else. By himself he hasn't had much luck against Thanos. This shows he has the power to put Thanos down but not to overcome Thanos's own power. Also, Thanos held his own to a reasonable extent even after Thor started tapping into the power gem.

True. I dont doubt Thor would/could have the power to put Thanos down. However we're talking pure h2h here. I dont think Thor has the h2h power to put Thanos down however.

Originally posted by jrodslam
So you dont find it a bit odd that Thor can beat Hulk and Thing at the same time with one hand while "regular", yet struggles to beat Hulk alone with 2 hands?

Why wouldnt Cap have been able to behead Thor? If not behead him, it surely would have killed him. The shield is certainly strong enough for it.

Why not fight back? Cap was gonna kill him. Someone was gonna die. It weas either gonna be Thor or the baby and obviously they were gonna try to kill Thor anyways.

Now thats rubbish. The writers knew it cause they didnt even bother to put it on panel.

Its all speculation and bs to me. Without the hammer and while "regular" how the hell is Thor knocking out Hulk so easily? With one hand at that. Let alone fighting Thing at the same time. I just cant grasp the fact that Thor can ko Hulk with his fist, then impale him on something. For all we know, Thor could have threw Hulk on the object and Hulk died. That whole fight was screwed up and thats probably why it wasnt on panel.

Its hard to believe Thing was beaten to death because it takes alot of pounding to beat Thing that bad. Thor was regular, but he wasnt even 100% nor had the use of both eyes and arms. That whole thing is just bs to me. Others could buy it, but im not.

Thor was mad, real mad that he did what he did.

Hulk made Thor throw away his hammer and when he did he got his ass kicked. If Sasquatch did got toe to toe with Hulk for 30 minutes they might have a chance but also Thing got beat by the Hulk even when Things strength was doubled.

Thor wins, and with ease.
Thor is a top level Class 100 strength possessor.
His reflexes, agility, skills, outclassess those of his enemies.
His physical might in the respect thread is well showed.He could punch them so hard they'll achieve escape velocity and die in outerspace.
Only a fanboy like Grimm 22 could believe the two of them can do this.
Thor without hammer and Odin Force, beat the crap outta from Loki, who was carrying a new Mjolnir on his own, and Fenris, who got an hammer too.He still make them running for their lifes.
Thor withouth Mjolnir, was able to hold Durok the Destroyer and then called upon a blast of magical lightning which killed half of Loki's army and Durok.
Thing and Sasquatch better ask Thor for drinking a beer together in Asgard, if they don't want to reach Valhalla too soon.
About the fight of the Reign issues, it was weird to me.
King Thor, not a master in the use of the Odin Force, but still hella powerful, can be sliced from Wolverine?
Doc Strange uses a jewel imbued from Earth Skyfathers energies to avoid Thor from tapping into the Odin Force, and with one arm he was able to kill both Thing and Hulk.
Now, Logan was able to hurt him, which his wrong, but Hulk and Thing get killed.I take this as gaving Wolvie a good showing before being disintegrated through eyebeams of Odin Force.So it can be assumed the Classic Thor can do that, and so he can take this.

Originally posted by lft4ded
Thor had the power boost but not full access to it. That necklace wouldn't have been much a deterrant if he could've just ripped it off at any time which, IIRC, he did as soon as his son was safe. He was just biding his time.

Actually, Loki "magiced" it off of him after killing Doc Strange

Originally posted by jrodslam
while "regular" how the hell is Thor knocking out Hulk so easily? With one hand at that. Let alone fighting Thing at the same time.

If it makes people feel better, it did seem like it was Prof Hulk that was in that fight (I hear he isn't enarly as strong as some incarnations)

Originally posted by aliveinboston
Only when Thanos was distracted by someone or something else. By himself he hasn't had much luck against Thanos. This shows he has the power to put Thanos down but not to overcome Thanos's own power. Also, Thanos held his own to a reasonable extent even after Thor started tapping into the power gem.

And the award for writing Thanos the most times in a four sentence post goes to......

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Sasquatch is Top Level Class 100 he has a healing factor he has been lifting well over 100 tons. Thing is a great fighter who has gone toe to toe with Hercules Savage Hulk Namor Wonder Man She Hulk Colossus and others he has alot of fighting experience. Anybody who could stalemate Hulk for thirty minutes can go toe to toe with Thor without his Hammer.

Originally posted by golem370
Sasquatch is Top Level Class 100 he has a healing factor he has been lifting well over 100 tons. Thing is a great fighter who has gone toe to toe with Hercules Savage Hulk Namor Wonder Man She Hulk Colossus and others he has alot of fighting experience. Anybody who could stalemate Hulk for thirty minutes can go toe to toe with Thor without his Hammer.

While Thor takes this match with ease, I am still curious; where does everyone get the "Warrior madness is ten times Thor" thing from? I've heard it repeatedly, but I have also heard that it is conjecture. Nor have I ever read it directly on panel, so, if someone could explain? Or point me to some direct, on-panel evidence?

Thanks.

thor wins easily, without his hammer hes still in the 100ton plus range and his speed is also well beyond the other 2, sasquatch and thing just cant compete

Originally posted by Soljer
While Thor takes this match with ease, I am still curious; where does everyone get the "Warrior madness is ten times Thor" thing from? I've heard it repeatedly, but I have also heard that it is conjecture. Nor have I ever read it directly on panel, so, if someone could explain? Or point me to some direct, on-panel evidence?

Thanks.

The team wins.

Thing alone has taken thor before , and with the hammer. Add sasquatch to the mix, with a not hammer thor, and thor loses.

And please, stop to underrating the thing.

Thing has caused several problems to savage hulk, hercules, silver surfer or abomination.

Has beaten thor with his hammer, namor, wonderman, she hulk, collosusus, doctor doom, absorbing man, mister hyde, the destroyer, rhino, etc. He has taken an avengers group for himself, including thor with his hammer, captain america, vision and iron man.

he has taken spider-man, wonderman and she hulk all toghether for himself.

Thing is a great figther, very strong and with a great durability. He could take class 100 people, and he has showed it before. Only read things fights in his 45 years of comic book stories and you will see it.

Thing has also had his butt handed to him by Thor befor, easily I might add. I dont underrate Thing at all, I just dont think he's a realistic match for Thor. I dont think Thor would own the team but I do think he could at least split the wins.