Ironfist vs. Karnak

Originally posted by Battlehammer
nope.

but black panther did that twice to karnak.

please show a feat of karnak that would be greater then something IF has displayed.

Look at the scans.

I have more if necesssary.

which one of those is supose to show speed that IF can't match?

or power?

Originally posted by Battlehammer
which one of those is supsoe to show speed that IF can't match?

Now it's speed all of the sudden?

What when he's fighting Shatterstar? it's mentioned how he's moving faster than lightning.

Originally posted by llagrok
Now it's speed all of the sudden?

What when he's fighting Shatterstar? it's mentioned how he's moving faster than lightning.

now did karnak display more power.

and I said durability was debatable

when he fighting shatter star? which scan is that. you kinda should put an order to them. Just putting down a bunch of random feats does not help your arguement unless you give the reason for why you placed them.

I use to do the same thing.

Originally posted by llagrok
Now it's speed all of the sudden?

What when he's fighting Shatterstar? it's mentioned how he's moving faster than lightning.

Do you really think Karnak was moving faster than lightning?

Originally posted by Battlehammer
speed all of a sudden? my original arguement was that IF is not slower then karnak.

now did karnak display more power.

and I said durability was debatable

when he fighting shatter star? which scan is that. you kinda should put an order to them. Just putting down a bunch of random feats does not help your arguement unless you give the reason for why you placed them.

I use to do the same thing.

Click on 1 and then scroll down.

Originally posted by jrodslam
Do you really think Karnak was moving faster than lightning?

I don't, but he was moving fast nonetheless 🙂

Originally posted by llagrok
Iron fist one shotted the Thing.

Only one he's never been capable of hurting, is the Hulk.

😕

IF has KO'd The THING before this I have to see...Scans please.

Karnak FTW

Did I say Iron Fist?

I meant Karnak, lol.

did saw no shatter star.........

Originally posted by Battlehammer
did saw no shatter star.........

Then look again.

Red robotic armor, big mace and an angry looking face.

Originally posted by llagrok
Then look again.

Red robotic armor, big mace and an angry looking face.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
shatterstar is a mutant........not a robot lol

There is mutant named Shatterstar as well, but I'm not talking about him. I'm talking about the robot that was designed to (and capable of) take out Black Bolt, but was stopped by Karnak instead.

If you read the Inhuman comics, you would know these things.

Robots(most) arent perfect. Because a robot was made to take out Black Bolt doesnt mean that Karnak wouldnt be able to find the weak spot in the armor.

Im sure it would be multiple times harder trying to find the weakness in Iron Fist. Much less able to hit it.😬

and the robot feat makes him......faster then Iron Fist?

You do realize many street have thrashed robots....

it said he movign as fast as lightning or some crap.........the same thing has been said about shang-chi and shang-chi has never shown to have a speed advantage over Iron Fist

Originally posted by jrodslam
Robots(most) arent perfect. Because a robot was made to take out Black Bolt doesnt mean that Karnak wouldnt be able to find the weak spot in the armor.

Im sure it would be multiple times harder trying to find the weakness in Iron Fist. Much less able to hit it.😬

Bullshit.

Karnak would find a weakness, simple as that.

He doesn't find a general weak spot, like a nerve or something. He can find one spot that will make your entire body collapse.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
and the robot feat makes him......faster then Iron Fist?

You do realize many street have thrashed robots....

it said he movign as fast as lightning or some crap.........the same thing has been said about shang-chi and shang-chi has never shown to have a speed advantage over Iron Fist

How many have trashed robots capable of taking out Black Bolt?

Now, may I ask you for some Iron Fist feats that put him above Karnak?

Originally posted by llagrok
Bullshit.

Karnak would find a weakness, simple as that.

He doesn't find a general weak spot, like a nerve or something. He can find one spot that will make your entire body collapse.

How many have trashed robots capable of taking out Black Bolt?

Now, may I ask you for some Iron Fist feats that put him above Karnak?

Im not seeing how thats a speed feat........

funny thing is in a normal person those spots are what normal MA train to know were they are and how to defend against them.

karnak power pritty worthless vs any skilled MA fighter.

I go and see what I can find for IF speed feats

You somehow completely missed what I said.

Karnak can see a weakness in anything, metal, telekinetic barriers, bodies. Like I said earlier (your retarded mind rejected the information?) he doesn't just notice nerve spots, but THE UNIQUE spots on every body that can completely knock out a character. Take how he knocked out Gorgon in example.

I forgave you for your earlier outburst, if you get smart again I won't. I understand that you've messed up something in your life or whatever it was you said, but I don't care about your personal life at all. You need to realize that none of us do.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
funny thing is in a normal person those spots are what normal MA train to know were they are and how to defend against them.

karnak power pritty worthless vs any skilled MA fighter.

I agree.

Originally posted by llagrok
You somehow completely missed what I said.

Karnak can see a weakness in anything, metal, telekinetic barriers, bodies. Like I said earlier (your retarded mind rejected the information?) he doesn't just notice nerve spots, but THE UNIQUE spots on every body that can completely knock out a character. Take how he knocked out Gorgon in example.

I forgave you for your earlier outburst, if you get smart again I won't. I understand that you've messed up something in your life or whatever it was you said, but I don't care about your personal life at all. You need to realize that none of us do.

🙄.

Smooth.

Very smooth.

Any well skilled MA knows areas to hit to shut down the entire body. Im pretty sure it would be much harder for him to hit that weak spot on Iron Fist than it was to hit the weak spot on a robot who isnt nearly as skilled as Iron Fist.