Originally posted by llagrok
I forgave you for your earlier outburst, if you get smart again I won't. I understand that you've messed up something in your life or whatever it was you said, but I don't care about your personal life at all. You need to realize that none of us do.
Originally posted by jrodslam
Any well skilled MA knows areas to hit to shut down the entire body. Im pretty sure it would be much harder for him to hit that weak spot on Iron Fist than it was to hit the weak spot on a robot who isnt nearly as skilled as Iron Fist.
You just don't understand what Karnak can do at all.
Martial Artists know general weak spots on the human body. Karnak sees a unique weak spot right away. Not just on bodies, but in plans, tactics, constructions, buildings, etc.
Originally posted by Battlehammer
out burst? I dident have any out burst in this thread. But now you gone and said this and pissed me off so go **** your self.
Originally posted by jrodslam
Any well skilled MA knows areas to hit to shut down the entire body. Im pretty sure it would be much harder for him to hit that weak spot on Iron Fist than it was to hit the weak spot on a robot who isnt nearly as skilled as Iron Fist.
Originally posted by Battlehammer
correct which this idiot does not seem to comprehend
What you don't seem to comprehend is this:
A skilled martial artist will know pressure points and other weak spots on the body.
But Karnak? Karnak'll hit you where you broken your arm when you were 10, and never told any about, but he still knows because his powers tell him that you are weak there.
Sure, martial artists can do the what Karnak does, but nowhere near as well or as close as Karnak does it.
Both of you stop throwing a hissy-fit. 🙄 This fight could be decided in a single move. Karnak can take IF out with one strike if he can land a blow in the right spot. On the other hand, IF can take Karnak out with the Iron Fist technique. Durability-wise, Danny's got the edge. He takes hits from Luke Cage, Spidey, etc. Strength, unknown. I don't know the upper limit of what Danny can amp to. Speed, Danny. Karnak doesn't have the speed feats to keep up with Spiderman, Deadpool, etc, which Danny has done.
I'm gonna go with IF for a narrow majority, partially because Danny is getting a signigant skill upgrade with the book. Depending on what he learns, this fight could go from a 6/10 win for him, to a 7-8/10 win.
Originally posted by Citizen V
What you don't seem to comprehend is this:A skilled martial artist will know pressure points and other weak spots on the body.
But Karnak? Karnak'll hit you where you broken your arm when you were 10, and never told any about, but he still knows because his powers tell him that you are weak there.
Sure, martial artists can do the what Karnak does, but nowhere near as well or as close as Karnak does it.
though help full again any skilled MA at the level of IF would know of his injuries and not allow him self to be hit in such places.......not tomention he chi healed him self completely meanign he has no old injuries........
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Both of you stop throwing a hissy-fit. 🙄 This fight could be decided in a single move. Karnak can take IF out with one strike if he can land a blow in the right spot. On the other hand, IF can take Karnak out with the Iron Fist technique. Durability-wise, Danny's got the edge. He takes hits from Luke Cage, Spidey, etc. Strength, unknown. I don't know the upper limit of what Danny can amp to. Speed, Danny. Karnak doesn't have the speed feats to keep up with Spiderman, Deadpool, etc, which Danny has done.I'm gonna go with IF for a narrow majority, partially because Danny is getting a signigant skill upgrade with the book. Depending on what he learns, this fight could go from a 6/10 win for him, to a 7-8/10 win.
Iron fist HAS to hit when he punches with that "one hit wonder" seeing as he's using energy. He was all worn out after punching Hiroim. Karnak doesn't have to. We also know that when he punches über hard, he doesn't punch as fast as he does when jabbing.
And for the love of god, can someone show me speed feats?
Originally posted by llagrok
You just don't understand what Karnak can do at all.Martial Artists know general weak spots on the human body. Karnak sees a unique weak spot right away. Not just on bodies, but in plans, tactics, constructions, buildings, etc.
False. Its eventually. Not right away.
Im not home at the moment, but i may be there tomorrow. Ill show scans backing up my statement.
Originally posted by jrodslam
False. Its eventually. Not right away.Im not home at the moment, but i may be there tomorrow. Ill show scans backing up my statement.
He once managed to destroy a room full of robots by hitting each in a different weak spot without seeming to break stride. He shattered a sword do so as a block.
I think it depends on the size and complexity of the target to a certain level.
Originally posted by Battlehammer
though help full again any skilled MA at the level of IF would know of his injuries and not allow him self to be hit in such places.......not tomention he chi healed him self completely meanign he has no old injuries........
And any skilled martial artist would see that said martial artist is trying to hide their injury's.
Don't care who wins, im just saying.
Originally posted by llagrok
And for the love of god, can someone show me speed feats?
http://img156.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hulkblitz3iy.jpg
I think BB is actually supposed to be a skilled fighter is he staken a robot that was designed to take out BB it must have been pretty good.
Originally posted by Alfheim
http://img156.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hulkblitz3iy.jpg
I think its pretty easy to have speed feats against an opponent with nearly 0 fighting skill who probably telegraphs his punches from a mile away, I can name a few street levelers who have decent speed/outmaneuvering feats against the hulk. And they have all pretty much admitted the same thing "If I get hit once its over with" or something like that.
Except for cap of course!!!!!!!!!
Originally posted by Apolloknight
I think its pretty easy to have speed feats against an opponent with nearly 0 fighting skill who probably telegraphs his punches from a mile away, I can name a few street levelers who have decent speed/outmaneuvering feats against the hulk. And they have all pretty much admitted the same thing "If I get hit once its over with" or something like that.Except for cap of course!!!!!!!!!
Yeah I know but you know how Spiderman fans like to show you scan of Spiderman dodging Hulk and showing the multiple images because hes so fast. Hey even the Punsiher could dodge the Hulk for awhile but it wouldnt be that impressive.
Originally posted by Alfheim
Punisher vs Ulikhttp://img510.imageshack.us/img510/5466/pun1gh5.jpg
http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/4092/pun2en1.jpg
http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/5994/pun3mi6.jpg
http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/1848/pun4jb7.jpg
http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/1576/pun5nt4.jpg
http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/9481/pun55bp7.jpg
http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/8500/pun6bi7.jpg
http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/7987/pun7rn7.jpg
http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/5576/pun8uv9.jpg
Compare IF dodging is alot more flashy.
Originally posted by Battlehammer
and black bolt is known for speed............nope nope he not.
No hes not but he has caught a projectile pretty easily. So it seems hes quite fast when he wants to be but he doesnt have alot of speed showings.
Originally posted by llagrok
All inhumans have enhanced speed anyways.
I think this is a classic case of bios being wrong. If you look at bios of the inhumans they contradict themselves. Thay say that an average inhumans has stats better than Captain America. It then says that Karnak is slightly superior to Captain America.....Karnak is not an average inhuman he has gone under extensive training therefore he should be significantly superior to Cap, if the average inhuman is superior to Cap.
Also the showings of some of the inhumans does not seem to indicate that average inhumans are enhanced. I agree that they are superior to humans but it seems the bios are blowing things out of proportion. Its a classic case of the bios being wrong.
