classic juggernaut v.s. gladiator /w/ uni-power

Originally posted by Apolloknight
How did I shoot myself in the foot if I made my point and got you to agree with me, and how is Juggernaut not going to use his shield in these fights? I dont quite understand what you mean, there is no PIS/CIS/JOBBER AURAS, here, so, Juggernaut is going to be using his shield.

Simple as that.

Each one of those people I mentioned were accepted cases of CIS restricting their powers, just as it was CIS that caused the Professor's Loss to Juggs.

PIS is assumed off for fights such as these when not specified, and Bloodlust On. CIS is from the Character so it is counted. Those are the rules posted here, so they most certainly are here.

Simply Put: The Rules say one thing, and you are saying another.

Originally posted by TheDecider
Why would he take it? Strength cannot beat Classic Juggernaut.

Well BFR for one (I'm still waiting for proof of Juggernaut's "Homing Power"😉

Secondly Captain Universe (IIRC) gets some basic Reality Altering powers, and that's how Onslaught ripped Juggs a new one.

3rd, Glads if FTL and will have lots of time to think about possible actions before Juggs can even hope to react.

So, its CIS that Hulk didnt get angry against Juggs. (not using his full power)

Its CIS that Hydro Man doest Drown Spiderman. (not using his full power)

Its CIS that Absorbing Man didnt Absorb Peoples minds. (not using his full power)

But its something else when Juggernaut doesnt use his shield? (also not using his full power)

That about sums up what you just said right! 😉

forget it....not bored enough to reply

Originally posted by Apolloknight
So, its CIS that Hulk didnt get angry against Juggs. (not using his full power)

Its CIS that Hydro Man doest Drown Spiderman. (not using his full power)

Its CIS that Absorbing Man didnt Absorb Peoples minds. (not using his full power)

But its something else when Juggernaut doesnt use his shield? (also not using his full power)

That about sums up what you just said right! 😉

Up until the last (Excepting the first part: You know my stance on Professor Hulk) I agree with you, but no I'm not saying Juggs is something else.

You admitted his act was CIS and I agreed with you. Now you seem to be saying it's not CIS after you said it directly twice, and if I'm wrong about that please enlighten me.

Originally posted by Apolloknight
Character Induced Stupidity, or CIS, on the other hand, refers to any natural mental limitations that characters impose upon themselves and reduce their ability to use their own skills and powers effectively. Unlike PIS, CIS does not occur because the plot requires it, but because the character is genuinely that dumb. Examples of the CIS-afflicted include characters such as Rhino or Jar Jar Binks. Events of CIS are not exempt from debates.

Umm, Juggernaut has to be pretty dumb not to use his shield when he's fighting the X-men.

"Duh, if only i would of kept my shield up Wolverine wouldnt of got my helmet off, Stupid me"

If you want to call it PIS then its fine, either way, my point still stands, If Juggernaut uses his shield, lets say, like Magneto does, Not to many people are going to stand against him.

Umm, i said if you want to call it PIS then fine

😐

Juggernaut doesnt even need a homing power. He could just wander around the universe for eternity until he found the battlefield. If this unipower can give him reality altering powers then i guess he can win like this.

Originally posted by Apolloknight
Umm, i said [b]if you want to call it PIS then fine

😐 [/B]

And I replied with "Juggs isn't alone in his CIS." Since you'd convinced me at that point.

Before that you said CIS twice, so are we agreed that it is CIS?

Originally posted by TheDecider
Juggernaut doesnt even need a homing power. He could just wander around the universe for eternity until he found the battlefield. If this unipower can give him reality altering powers then i guess he can win like this.

"Wandering around for eternity" doesn't really count in this case, otherwise any immortal who's BFRed can be assumed to eventually make it back some how.

Originally posted by Dalak
And I replied with "Juggs isn't alone in his CIS." Since you'd convinced me at that point.

Before that you said CIS twice, so are we agreed that it is CIS?

Are we agreed?

Originally posted by Dalak
Are we agreed?

yeah, you get the point.

Originally posted by Apolloknight
yeah, you get the point.

Is that a Yes?

It's a simple question, as was the previous.

As long as there is a pond nearby Gladiator pwns 😄

Originally posted by TheDecider
Juggernaut doesnt even need a homing power. He could just wander around the universe for eternity until he found the battlefield. If this unipower can give him reality altering powers then i guess he can win like this.

gladiator destroys juggs

Makes it back eventually yup

Originally posted by Dalak
Is that a Yes?

It's a simple question, as was the previous.

Apolloknight, I will take you not correcting me to mean: "Yes, I agree that Juggie's lack of ForceField Use is CIS."

When your boss gets off your back you can affirm or deny this if you will, but continued silence will be seen as affirmation.

Originally posted by Dalak
Apolloknight, I will take you not correcting me to mean: "Yes, I agree that Juggie's lack of ForceField Use is CIS."

When your boss gets off your back you can affirm or deny this if you will, but continued silence will be seen as affirmation.

Confired.