Wait, wait, wait. Your telling me that Marka Ragnos, the greatest of the Sith(Who is actually half-Sith)can't defeat DE Sidious, but that NJO Luke can?
People have said that Nihlus can't defeat DE Sidious either...and NJO Luke(Not LotF) is supposed to be more powerful than Nihlus?
Can somone clear this up? 😛
(Advent mabye? She's really smart.)
It’s called the inconsistency of general opinion, basically. Months ago, DE Sidious couldn’t take ANYONE. NJO Luke couldn’t take anyone, either. Sadow, Ragnos, Kresha nd Kun were miles above both because of their status as being older Sith and somehow better Sith and more powerful Sith. Now, in this day, ESB Luke can contest with PT Jedi and why I don’t necessarily agree with that, I do agree with DE Sidious being above all Sith. But, your point is very valid. People have general agreements on who would win what and somtimes it doesn’t add up. Perhaps Ragnos couldn’t beat NJO Luke. Perhaps Nihilus couldn’t beat NJO Luke. Who knows. Start a thread on it to see, if you want.
Originally posted by Nikkolas
Isn't Nihilus' only known power a vast Force drain that devours everything? Or something like that and that's why only the Exile could beat him? I don't know that mucha bout KOTOR. I would hesitate to say ANYONE could crush NJO Luke like a bug, though.
Nope. Nothing like that.
I'll explain. 😉
According to Wiki, I'm right.
“Darth Nihilus ravaged and consumed whole worlds to feed his insatiable appetite for power. This was conducted from the bridge of his flagship, the Ravager, which appears as a playable location later in the game. Nihilus's powers were so all-consuming that all those who came into contact with the Sith Lord became slaves, mindless servants to his will, as seen in the crew of the Ravager when the player comes across the ship. It is suggested that he drained the Force from these formerly living beings to enslave them.”
“His ship was subsequently invaded, and on the bridge of the Ravager, Nihilus attempted to absorb the Exile's Force energies, only to weaken himself, possibly because the Exile was a void in the Force, much like himself.”
So, as I said, vast Force drain powers and Force draining anyone who came before him and thus why only the Exile beat him. I'm not saying I'm totally right, but I was stating what is also agreed upon by everything I've heard on here and now the wiki article on him. So, vast Force drain just like I said.
Darth Nihlus was originally a young man who came to be found by Darth Traya. He was a human boy and he proved to have an unbelievably powerful affinity for the Force.
Traya took him and slowly conditioned him until she brought his full power out. As Nihlus slowly grew into a man, his body strengthened and cultivated until it became powerful and developed.
But as he acumulated Dark side energy, it began to consume him from the inside, until he had become more a being of energy than physical matter.
Also, the Discipline of Hunger, an ancient Sith technique of power that he had acquired, had slaved him to an immense need of life energy, to the point where he needed to consume it just to survive.
This began to drive his every aspect of existance, even to the point of forsaking the goals and aspirations of the Sith.
But in return, he was gifted with a power few could ever possess.
Telekenetically, he could lift things thousands of pounds heavier than even Grandmaster Yoda could.
Such as pulling a crippled Capital Warship, "The Ravenger" from an immense gravity well.
And as well known, he had a Force Drain ability, which at its full power, could draw and consume the life from entire planets.
He could simultaniously slave the minds of hundreds of people to follow his will.
He could use telekenisis at every moment of every second of every day, of every year, to hold the thousand+Pound peices of his warship in place.
This strength and endurance and depth of the Force also expanded even farther, and (Accordingly) his well of power possibly extended further than any other Force user in history, save FP Anakin.
This is why the Exhile had to have Nihlus feed on him and exhaust himself on her presence - which was a gaping hole in the Force.
If she had fought him without doing this first, she wouldn't have even had a twinkling of a chance.
And this, is a very, very simple explaination.
in terms of power nihilus is 0 because of visas quote "there is no power in the hunger he possesses" and for him to beat palpatine,njo luke,
it depends on the situation, hell im sick and tired of people saying "o man he has green lightning, super telekenesis, manipulated black holes"
people never think that what if the opponent had the upperhand, hell even if the situation was on vaders side he could kill de palpatine, like a suprise attack by pulling a huge object from the ceiling to pin him down, im not saying vader pwns him or any1 nor being a fanboy, its just an example on the situation because people always make shortcuts "loop out of the force then green lightning" or "force storm"
I agree. At this point, Luke’s raw power is not lightyears above Sidious. Sidious’ own intelligence and superior knowledge of The Force and experience would fill in the not-so-big gap in power. This is why I say it could go either way. By no means would it be difficult for Palpatine to outsmart Luke.