Originally posted by Dinalfos
Possible explanation, yes. I'm trying to explain it because classic Savage Hulk is still widely considered the ultimate version of the Hulk. IF you can come up with a better explanation, go ahead.
I'm not going to come up with my own explanation of something that has already been stated on panel, why would I do that? I would be choosing to ignore and accept what I choose.
Banner Puts limitations on Hulk to keep his anger in check, if not, His Rage spirals out of control, eventually eating away at him, killing him.
Mindless Hulk was weakening, this is true, without banner, his rage truly (and the only time I will accept it) has no limits, but because of this, Hulk was dying, to much energy and power being exerted, like a nuclear power plant gone critical.
This is what I have got out of this Thread.
Please, correct me if im wrong.
Originally posted by Apolloknight
I'm not going to come up with my own explanation of something that has already been stated on panel, why would I do that? I would be choosing to ignore and accept what I choose.Banner Puts limitations on Hulk to keep his anger in check, if not, His Rage spirals out of control, eventually eating away at him, killing him.
Mindless Hulk was weakening, this is true, without banner, his rage truly (and the only time I will accept it) has no limits, but because of this, Hulk was dying, to much energy and power being exerted, like a nuclear power plant gone critical.
This is what I have got out of this Thread.
Please, correct me if im wrong.
No, he puts limitations on Hulk to keep him from being a mindless beast. Big difference. Mindless beasts don't have to be angry all the time, nor does it automatically mean that they can reach a higher level of anger.
Nutrient Bath Hulk was weakening, but another version of Mindless Hulk, Cross Roads Hulk, was NOT weakening. Because Banner was still inside him. Nutrient Bath Hulk was weakening because they needed each other physically. It's probably a DNA thing.
The Mindless Hulk you're talking about wasn't even mindless. He was seperated, but it had a completely different effect.
Originally posted by Apolloknight
I'm not going to come up with my own explanation of something that has already been stated on panel, why would I do that? I would be choosing to ignore and accept what I choose.Banner Puts limitations on Hulk to keep his anger in check, if not, His Rage spirals out of control, eventually eating away at him, killing him.
Mindless Hulk was weakening, this is true, without banner, his rage truly (and the only time I will accept it) has no limits, but because of this, Hulk was dying, to much energy and power being exerted, like a nuclear power plant gone critical.
This is what I have got out of this Thread.
Please, correct me if im wrong.
If the Hulk was dying of that, why was Banner dying?
And I don't remember the Energy = Death theory on panel either.
Originally posted by Dinalfos
No, he puts limitations on Hulk to keep him from being a mindless beast. Big difference. Mindless beasts don't have to be angry all the time, nor does it automatically mean that they can reach a higher level of anger.Nutrient Bath Hulk was weakening, but another version of Mindless Hulk, Cross Roads Hulk, was NOT weakening. Because Banner was still inside him. Nutrient Bath Hulk was weakening because they needed each other physically. It's probably a DNA thing.
The Mindless Hulk you're talking about wasn't even mindless. He was seperated, but it had a completely different effect.
Even still, his anger was eating away at his body, weakening him. Thats all I need. Banner keeps Hulk in Check, from killing the both of them basically.
Again, Correct me if I am wrong
Originally posted by Apolloknight
Even still, his anger was eating away at his body, weakening him. Thats all I need. Banner keeps Hulk in Check, from killing the both of them basically.Again, Correct me if I am wrong
You are wrong. I'm not sure about which instance you are now talking, but it's wrong either way. It wasn't the anger that ate away at him, it was the seperation from Banner that did him in. Plain and simple. If you had actually read the comic, you would've known that as soon as the Hulk went down, his body started to swell. And so did Banner's. Eventually, their molecules began to "float", making both of them intangible.
Originally posted by MattDay
yea but he goes to a point called "overload" so he ends up getting tired and banner will start re-emerging, pre crisis superman almost did it to hulk before he pulled away that buzzing thing around hulks head.and anyone around superman level can take hulk as hulk is also dumb as a plastic spoon... no if's, no but's just pure hulk ass kicking
Hulk's smart enough to dodge an android, grab some cloth and wrap it up to throw it into space instead of just smashing it, in the old days. Current Hulk is even Smarter, though he's still not "Smart" but more like an 8-9 yr old whereas the old "HULK SMASH!" was 2-4. Still smart enough to think his way around some things but too limited to grasp complications.
And ony 2 Hulk's have this "overload" you speak of, Gravage and The Professor. Gravage spoke of himself at elast half the time in the First Person and when he fought too long he'd change into Banner. Professor got so angry, and then a Mental Defence kicked in that resulted in him transforming into the Savage Banner
Fixit (Grey) and the Savage have stayed Hulk's for days and weeks at a time, and fought/exherted themselves for days and weeks as well. (IMO Current Hulk is Savage)
And unlike Apollo I'm not trolling. I'm being serious.
Originally posted by Apolloknight
Even still, his anger was eating away at his body, weakening him. Thats all I need. Banner keeps Hulk in Check, from killing the both of them basically.Again, Correct me if I am wrong
This is like saying that the Mindless Hulk slammed into the Adamantium Statue had broken ribs: There's no proof to back it up either.
Why was Banner dying if Hulk's anger was killing Hulk? They weren't connected at all at that point, mentally or anything so it can't be Hulk killing Banner too. And Banner was able to get angry as well, so it wasn't him dying because he had no Anger at all.
Originally posted by Apolloknight
I really want to know? Hulks anger is unlimited, therefore his Strength, Stamina and Durability are unlimited.
Common misconception. His "unlimited" strength is only as unlimited as his anger....which is indeed limited. Fanboys have a field-day with the unlimited stuff with him, but in fact he's been knocked out before and even overpowered if he isn't terribly angry.
Originally posted by DigiMark007
Common misconception. His "unlimited" strength is only as unlimited as his anger....which is indeed limited. Fanboys have a field-day with the unlimited stuff with him, but in fact he's been knocked out before and even overpowered if he isn't terribly angry.
Is this a personal opinion or a Mod Ruling?
Originally posted by DigiMark007
Common misconception. His "unlimited" strength is only as unlimited as his anger....which is indeed limited. Fanboys have a field-day with the unlimited stuff with him, but in fact he's been knocked out before and even overpowered if he isn't terribly angry.
Not everyone is a fanboy because they defend a character. Come on.
first off, it is ridiculous to ask who can beat a character at its highest level when they are being dumbed down to way below their own normal level. second, hulk may have unlimited strength, but it does not increase to insane levels instantly. and third, when has his durability been shown to increase at the levels that his strength does?
Originally posted by Soujaboy
Oh no, your not a fanboy 🙄
No, I'm not. Clearly. And you know it. You would like to think I am because I'm not giving in when it's not necessary, but I'm really not. You are actually the one who starts troll threads, slings petty insults, clings together with like minded individuals, distorts other people's opinions and keeps applying hit and run tactics. You also refuse to accept certain establisments, you deny cold hard evidence, you present flimsy(and debatable) evidence as fact etc.