Originally posted by UniOmni
Marvel has proved superior to Jonn on two occasions.
Once by himself, and another time when he faced Jonn, WW, Warrior and someone else i forget.
Jonn isn't a factor here. And WW can't take CM and BA at once.Its debateable that she can even take them on one at a time.
She can't. But that's besides the point.
Are you sure Jonn is Captain Marvel/Black Adam's inferior?
Isn't the Manhunter usually considered superior to the big red and blue? Who is more or less an equal of Cap Marvel or Black Adam?
Originally posted by Soljer
She can't. But that's besides the point.Are you sure Jonn is Captain Marvel/Black Adam's inferior?
Isn't the Manhunter usually considered superior to the big red and blue? Who is more or less an equal of Cap Marvel or Black Adam?
Superman is always portrayed as MM's superior. Don't really know where you came up with that one. Doomsday even stated that Martian Manhunter is no Superman.
Originally posted by Soljer
She can't. But that's besides the point.Are you sure Jonn is Captain Marvel/Black Adam's inferior?
Isn't the Manhunter usually considered superior to the big red and blue? Who is more or less an equal of Cap Marvel or Black Adam?
Dont' even start that she can't crap. that's bull and you know it. She took supes one on one. Why not one of his lame imitators?
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Dont' even start that she can't crap. that's bull and you know it. She took supes one on one. Why not one of his lame imitators?
Lame imitators? We're gonna throw around insults at fictitious comic book characters? Okay...
Where is Milkie, or whoever it was that had all the Captain Marvel information. Marvel is quite a bit cooler than Superman, and was put on hold because he was beating out superman in the sales. In fact, Superman imitated MARVEL to catch back up. Get over it.
Anyways.
Go back and read the Black Adam/Wonder Woman thread, apparently you missed something.
Black Adam is Wonder Woman's superior.
Originally posted by Draco69
Wonder Woman and Martian Manhunter. Manhunter has proven to be superiour to Marvel in his own book.Too many damn powers the guy has. J'onn can go the simple route and telepathically force the duo to say the word "Shazam"....
Cap has proven above Jonn on occasion as well though.
And the number of powers has never helped Jonn against Superman and his ilk.
Originally posted by Soljer
Lame imitators? We're gonna throw around insults at fictitious comic book characters? Okay...Where is Milkie, or whoever it was that had all the Captain Marvel information. Marvel is quite a bit cooler than Superman, and was put on hold because he was beating out superman in the sales. In fact, Superman imitated MARVEL to catch back up. Get over it.
Anyways.
Go back and read the Black Adam/Wonder Woman thread, apparently you missed something.
Black Adam is Wonder Woman's superior.
Milkie isn't a reliable source....
Anyhoo. Believe what you want. The crux of the issue is that Diana's partner is being who can make them turn back to their human forms with a thought. Diana can also just give J'onn her lasso, turn invisible and intangible and have the lasso "reveal their true forms". Which is a little boy and Arab would-be car bomber...
Originally posted by Soljer
Lame imitators? We're gonna throw around insults at fictitious comic book characters? Okay...Where is Milkie, or whoever it was that had all the Captain Marvel information. Marvel is quite a bit cooler than Superman, and was put on hold because he was beating out superman in the sales. In fact, Superman imitated MARVEL to catch back up. Get over it.
Anyways.
Go back and read the Black Adam/Wonder Woman thread, apparently you missed something.
Black Adam is Wonder Woman's superior.
Actually the BA thread was BS. She wasn't allowed her weapons and no one could agree on her strength. But according to her stats and superman's stats in brother eye, her stregnth was a1 and his was a1. Ooops. I guess BA isn't all that much of a match for her when you add in her weapons.
Originally posted by UniOmni
Cap has proven above Jonn on occasion as well though.And the number of powers has never helped Jonn against Superman and his ilk.
Did you read the Fernus storyline? He smoked the entire League. That's J'onn at his full potential, not jobbing and with PIS/CIS.
He was schooling Superman. He even made his goddamn dog eat Atom.
MM is above Marvel in my opinion. Believe what you want that Marvel MAY be superior in strength and speed. But for heaven's sake when it comes to sheer verstality, MM takes it in spades.
He even has this ridiculous wish-giving power....
Originally posted by Draco69
Milkie isn't a reliable source....Anyhoo. Believe what you want. The crux of the issue is that Diana's partner is being who can make them turn back to their human forms with a thought. Diana can also just give J'onn her lasso, turn invisible and intangible and have the lasso "reveal their true forms". Which is a little boy and Arab would-be car bomber...
I wasn't implying that the SHAZAM two would be able to win the fight. Just that Manhunter is the deciding factor here.
Originally posted by UniOmni
With a thought??
Willpower has no sway here then??
Thats how Superman gets by alot.
Not good enough for the Shazams?
Nope. Martian Manhunter has telepathically combated Mageddon, the Angels themselves and 700 other Martians by himself.
A non-PIS/CIS MM would devolve them to a fetus like he did to Despero...
Originally posted by Soljer
I wasn't implying that the SHAZAM two would be able to win the fight. Just that Manhunter is the deciding factor here.
Diana's lasso is also big help. True she can't take them both on (She would like go after Captain Marvel first since he's not nearly as ruthless nor skilled nor bright for that matter as Black Adam