When has Storm blocked Jean's TK? And when has she blocked X? And I'm not talking about a surface scan of thoughts. I'm talking a full out psi blast. Because if she can be affected by Emma on more than one occasion, then it's obvious that she can be affected by TP (which affects a lot more than thoughts...).
I think it depends on what type of TK Psylocke has. She's never had finesse with it, and all Storm needs is an opening. Now the chances of her getting that opening are a different story...
Originally posted by Cosmic Flame
When has Storm blocked Jean's TK? And when has she blocked X? And I'm not talking about a surface scan of thoughts. I'm talking a full out psi blast. Because if she can be affected by Emma on more than one occasion, then it's obvious that she can be affected by TP (which affects a lot more than thoughts...).I think it depends on what type of TK Psylocke has. She's never had finesse with it, and all Storm needs is an opening. Now the chances of her getting that opening are a different story...
Storm has shown resistance to probing. Storm without Mags helmet would have her mind shut down as soon as the battle started.
A decent telepath wins.
TK Psylocke rips her apart.
Eh I'm not going to go through this again...I'll go find the link to the old thread.
Originally posted by stormfront13
no, your right...she has blocked xavier before
...Was he trying to psi-blast her? No. He was trying to read her mind, if I recall correctly. And couldn't because of electrical-based static surrounding her brain. If Xavier had wanted to, he could've shut her brain down whenever he saw fit.
Besides, we're on telekinesis now, not telepathy.
Originally posted by stormfront13
why are we still using the helmet? and psylock wouldn't do that to storm
Err...why not? This is a hypothetical match between these two characters to see who would win in a fight. If that's how Psylocke wins, that's how she wins.
And it would be in character for her to kill, too.
Originally posted by Cosmic Flame
When has Storm blocked Jean's TK? And when has she blocked X? And I'm not talking about a surface scan of thoughts. I'm talking a full out psi blast. Because if she can be affected by Emma on more than one occasion, then it's obvious that she can be affected by TP (which affects a lot more than thoughts...).I think it depends on what type of TK Psylocke has. She's never had finesse with it, and all Storm needs is an opening. Now the chances of her getting that opening are a different story...
Over the years, Psylocke became MUCH better with her TK. Her TK now rivals Jean's.
There you go done and dusted...I believe both Psylockes are discussed in this thread....
Originally posted by ExodusCloak
There you go done and dusted...I believe both Psylockes are discussed in this thread....
Haha, oh yea. I debated in this one, too. 😛
Originally posted by Cosmic Flame
Because if she can be affected by Emma on more than one occasion, then it's obvious that she can be affected by TP (which affects a lot more than thoughts...).
yes...she has been affected by emma...but 1)the first time she was just starting out as an x-man...and has never faced a tp before 2) on both occasions she was caught by suprise. it was a sneak tp attack.
When has Storm blocked Jean's TK?
she hasn't blocked jeans tk...but jean had a hard time keeping up a tk shield against storms winds
And when has she blocked X?
a while ago...he couldn't enter her mind
And I'm not talking about a surface scan of thoughts. I'm talking a full out psi blast.
i don't think he's ever tried a psi-blast on her
I think it depends on what type of TK Psylocke has. She's never had finesse with it, and all Storm needs is an opening. Now the chances of her getting that opening are a different story...
well storm is able to affect the insides of force-fields...and can electrify the air so as long as theirs air inside the force-field...she can electrify psylock.
That's the crux of your argument "Psylocke wouldn't do that to Storm."?
hey...it's a valid arguement
Bloodlust is hardly ever specified, but it is normally assumed
well...it's the rules. unless bloodlust is specified...there isn't any
A decent telepath wins.
more powerful than decent telepaths have gone against storm(elias bogan and emma frost) and lost.
storm is not one to be underestimated. she can turn the tides in most battles
Originally posted by Metalmanx
Err...why not? This is a hypothetical match between these two characters to see who would win in a fight. If that's how Psylocke wins, that's how she wins.
bloodlust was not specified...so psylock wouldn't kill her
And it would be in character for her to kill, too.
iirc psylock called storm her "best friend" so no that would be out of character
Originally posted by stormfront13
yes...she has been affected by emma...but 1)the first time she was just starting out as an x-man...and has never faced a tp before 2) on both occasions she was caught by suprise. it was a sneak tp attack.
Emma knocked her out on the first occasion proving that Storm can be effected by telepathy.
Exactly telepathy works faster then Storms powers.
a while ago...he couldn't enter her mind
i don't think he's ever tried a psi-blast on her
well storm is able to affect the insides of force-fields...and can electrify the air so as long as theirs air inside the force-field...she can electrify psylock.
Storm would be TK-Blitzed or Psi-blitzed as soon as the battle starts.
more powerful than decent telepaths have gone against storm(elias bogan and emma frost) and lost.
Emma Frost has knocked out Storm before.
BTW In that X-treme X-Men comic it was PiS and CiS on Emma's part.
She toys with Storm slowly eroding her mind, which gave Storm a chance to fight back. Emma should have just shut off her subconscience reflexes like any other telepath fighting to their best ability.
Wolverine is resistant to probing yet he can easily be subdued by shutting down his reflexes.
Bogans powers work on possesion meaning you can fight back.
Storm can't defend against someone shutting off her subconscience reflexes she doesn't have telepathy.
storm is not one to be underestimated. she can turn the tides in most battles
Read the older thread most of these points have already been covered.
Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Emma knocked her out on the first occasion proving that Storm can be effected by telepathy.
Exactly telepathy works faster then Storms powers.ie Probing
Emma has on their first meeting and fried her.
Storm would be TK-Blitzed or Psi-blitzed as soon as the battle starts.
Emma Frost has knocked out Storm before.
BTW In that X-treme X-Men comic it was PiS and CiS on Emma's part.
She toys with Storm slowly eroding her mind, which gave Storm a chance to fight back. Emma should have just shut off her subconscience reflexes like any other telepath fighting to their best ability.
Wolverine is resistant to probing yet he can easily be subdued by shutting down his reflexes.Bogans powers work on possesion meaning you can fight back.
Storm can't defend against someone shutting off her subconscience reflexes she doesn't have telepathy.
Read the older thread most of these points have already been covered.
Yea, you've basically said everything I wanna gonna. Kudos.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
Yea, you've basically said everything I wanna gonna. Kudos.
Thanks I'm sure there scans in that older thread proving those points...I was just recalling these points from memory.... 😛
I'm going to make a decent thread involving Storm...hopefully then all this madness would die.
Any ideas...
What about Storm vs The New X-Men with Hellion limited to TK Shields?
exoduscloak...most of your points involved storms and emmas first battle.
1) that was storms first encounter with a hostile telepath
2)storm was taken by suprise
3) storm hadn't even been an x-man for that long and was still a newbie with the whole fighting scene
during that fight emma had all the advantages.
now with the current fight. i'm assuming it's current psylock so...
1) storm can block tk attacks
2)storm can still attack inside her force-field. assuming she has one
3) storm has much expierence handling tk attacks
4)psylock isn't going to use any attacks that could kill storm
there's much more but im not in the mood to debate right now. so let's agree to disagree
Please, they had been trained by Xavier to resist telepathic attacks, it even states that, they still went down. 20 years later, Emma psiblasts her, she still goes down.
If I have TK and I attack you, you can't block it with wind, because it's telekinesis - tele meaning distant, kinesis meaning movement. You try and block telekinesis with wind I just think of a different location. It's retarded, Candra was a moron under CIS.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Please, they had been trained by Xavier to resist telepathic attacks, it even states that, they still went down.
yes...but xavier never tried to literally knock them unconsious. you can't get that kind of training unless you expierence it. think of it this way. if you've never even seen any type of martial art moves or technique and haven't even heard of it and someone teaches you basic martial arts techniques for only a couple of weeks. when you are ambushed by someone who has the same skill and technique except is more ruthless and also have years and years of expierence...are you going to defeat them? the answer is no.
If I have TK and I attack you, you can't block it with wind, because it's telekinesis - tele meaning distant, kinesis meaning movement. You try and block telekinesis with wind I just think of a different location. It's retarded, Candra was a moron under CIS.
she's not blocking tk with wind...she's creating an electric field that blocks tk.