As I said befroe, Storm winds 6/10. Both of their powers are psionic so either one can kill rather quickly. But a newer scan proves that Storm BARELY think to manipulate the weather which is why I think it is 6/10.
1)She blows Pyslocke up with air pressure
2)She forcefully removes the air from her lungs
3)She manipulates the bioelectric currents inside of her head turning her own TP against her.
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Originally posted by stormfront13
exoduscloak...most of your points involved storms and emmas first battle.1) that was storms first encounter with a hostile telepath
2)storm was taken by suprise
3) storm hadn't even been an x-man for that long and was still a newbie with the whole fighting scene
I was just pointing out the degree of natural shielding Storm has and the speed of telepathy compared to Storms psionic powers. Newb or not she is still only resistant to probing..doesn't change a thing. BTW It really doesn't matter how much shielding she has to probing, any decent telepath will shut off her mind with a thought and there's nothing Storm can do to stop it.(Wolvey example)
Wolvey is very resistant to probing yet he has been made redundant before by shutting off his subconscience reflexes.
Emma didn't exactly lose, Storm called a bluff...especially when you consider the lack of pressure points on Emma's perfectly smooth diamond skin...plus like I said before Emma was not only CiSsing around but she was also PiSsing around. For some reason she went for the slow erosion effect...however if she went for the Psi-Blitz then Storm would have lost in her own comic. You can't block someone shutting down you subconscience reflexes...Wolvey is the best example.
The Emma vs Storm fight was also discussed in that thread I believe as well as another I'll find you the link.
And yeah Current Psylocke 10/10
I recall saying Psylocke wins in that thread. Now that I think about it Emma could win it would depend on 1) if one believes she can use telepathy in diamond form, which she has 2.5 times already and 2) if Betsy's telekinesis can crush or explode her perfectly fused smooth diamond form, and whether the psionic katana can disrupt organic diamond nervous system. But Psylocke probably still wins there ... like she does here.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
I recall saying Psylocke wins in that thread. Now that I think about it Emma could win it would depend on 1) if one believes she can use telepathy in diamond form, which she has 2.5 times already and 2) if Betsy's telekinesis can crush or explode her perfectly fused smooth diamond form, and whether the psionic katana can disrupt organic diamond nervous system. But Psylocke probably still wins there ... like she does here.
Betsy would probably take that too...even though those are some very good points...
I just realised how inconsistent Emma's telepathy and diamond form have been...I guess that's what you get for being a telepath with a unique code of ethics...
Originally posted by stormfront13
exoduscloak...most of your points involved storms and emmas first battle.1) that was storms first encounter with a hostile telepath
2)storm was taken by suprise
3) storm hadn't even been an x-man for that long and was still a newbie with the whole fighting scene
during that fight emma had all the advantages.
now with the current fight. i'm assuming it's current psylock so...
1) storm can block tk attacks
2)storm can still attack inside her force-field. assuming she has one
3) storm has much expierence handling tk attacks
4)psylock isn't going to use any attacks that could kill storm
there's much more but im not in the mood to debate right now. so let's agree to disagree
Is anyone else tired of Storm threads, too?
Anyway. So you're telling me that Storm is allowed to kill, and Psylocke isn't? Bull, my friend. It is well within Psylocke's character to kill. Friend or not. Even though it isn't STATED, bloodlust is assumed on these forums, and they ALWAYS fight to the best of their ability. If this means killing, then it means killing.
Storm cannot block TK attacks. That's the biggest load of crap.
Psylcoke wins 10/10. Implodes her heart, twists her brain around, knots her lungs, etc.
Originally posted by stormfront13
yes...but xavier never tried to literally knock them unconsious. you can't get that kind of training unless you expierence it. think of it this way. if you've never even seen any type of martial art moves or technique and haven't even heard of it and someone teaches you basic martial arts techniques for only a couple of weeks. when you are ambushed by someone who has the same skill and technique except is more ruthless and also have years and years of expierence...are you going to defeat them? the answer is no.she's not blocking tk with wind...she's creating an electric field that blocks tk.
So Psylocke isn't going to be ruthless and defeat Storm with his superior ability? She's fighting to the best of her ability. 🤨
Too bad TK moves at the speed of thought. Assuming an electric field (the hell? 😕 ) even works, she couldn't get it up fast enough if Psylcoke wanted her put down.
Originally posted by montrailAs you can see, Storm doesn't even have to fully form a thought to use her powers....it just happen. She is useing her mind to control the AIR to fly on the currents and using her "feeling the shifts in the wind" thing to tell how far apart the candles are.
Woah. Way too much power there, Storm. Don't hurt yourself FLYING.
Oh yea. Huge feat there. Storm barely forms a thought...to FLY. Something she's been doing since the damn 70s. That's like breathing for her.
Her powers are psionic. But they take two motions. One, her thought. And then two, the action. TK is but one motion. It happens as Psylocke thinks it. And it moves faster than Storm's attack process speed.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
Woah. Way too much power there, Storm. Don't hurt yourself FLYING.
Oh yea. Huge feat there. Storm barely forms a thought...to FLY. Something she's been doing since the damn 70s. That's like breathing for her.
Her powers are psionic. But they take two motions. One, her thought. And then two, the action.
ut one motion. It happens as Psylocke thinks it. And it moves faster than Storm's attack process speed.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
So Psylocke isn't going to be ruthless and defeat Storm with his superior ability? She's fighting to the best of her ability. 🤨
Too bad TK moves at the speed of thought. Assuming an electric field (the hell? 😕 ) even works, she couldn't get it up fast enough if Psylcoke wanted her put down.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
Is anyone else tired of Storm threads, too?
Storm cannot block TK attacks.
That's the biggest load of crap.
Psylcoke wins 10/10. Implodes her heart, twists her brain around, knots her lungs, etc.
Originally posted by ExodusCloak
[B]I was just pointing out the degree of natural shielding Storm has and the speed of telepathy compared to Storms psionic powers.
Newb or not she is still only resistant to probing..doesn't change a thing.
BTW It really doesn't matter how much shielding she has to probing, any decent telepath will shut off her mind with a thought and there's nothing Storm can do to stop it.
(Wolvey example)
Wolvey is very resistant to probing yet he has been made redundant before by shutting off his subconscience reflexes.
Emma didn't exactly lose, Storm called a bluff...especially when you consider the lack of pressure points on Emma's perfectly smooth diamond skin...plus like I said before Emma was not only CiSsing around but she was also PiSsing around. For some reason she went for the slow erosion effect...however if she went for the Psi-Blitz then Storm would have lost in her own comic.
You can't block someone shutting down you subconscience reflexes...Wolvey is the best example.
Originally posted by montrail
[B]🙁 Wtf don't you understand?! Both of their powers are psionic so how does hers move faster than Storms?! I really don't see why you can get this through your mind...oh well..it's beyond me. 😎
The Speed of Telepathy is greater then Psionic Manipulation..that's what you don't seem to understand.
Storm has to think and project then the Bolt of Lightning has to travel at the speed of light to make contact with the opponent.
With TK it's thinking and projecting.
And with Telepathy it's just thinking.
Telepathy is quicker then Telekinesis which is quicker then Psionic Manipulation.
You do not know that. It says she has high resistant to TELEPTHY, not probing. Yes Emma has did s psi-bolt thingy...but that was along time ago.
All those feats you posted involved Storm resisting Probing, Mind Control(A battle of Wills), and a Slow Mind Erosion where Emma was playing with her thoughts.
Show Storm resisting her mind being shut down. Good luck finding a scan.
The fact is...the only resistance Storm has shown to telepathy was when the telepath decided to do invade her thoughts rather then shut her subconscious funtions down.
BTW All the scans you posted in that old thread were answered.
(Sigh..)Again, your forgetting what Storm can do to them with just a thought.
And you're forgetting that Telepathy works faster then Psionic Manipulation.
And?
Invading Wolverine and Sabertooths thoughts is very difficult even for the most accomplished telepaths...but if they want to render him redundant the they opt for the subconscious reflexes.
See the HoM scan in the other thread
And you know this how? How do you know Storm would have lost?
Because she would be a vegetable like every other non-telepath whose had their mind shut down.
You don't seem to understand what a subconscious reflex is...you breath yet you don't realize you're breathing, you're constantly processing the images you see in you're brain but you can't consciously stop yourself from processing these images.
Storm would be made a vegetable.
Thats what YOU say...writers can say diferent.
Nope the writers agree....Storm has never resisted having her brain functions shut down by a telepath...the scans you've shown in that other thread show her fighting against probing, funny enough Banshee is also still conscious in that scan. Emma was toying with her thoughts and Bogans powers work on possesion. So nope she hasn't shown resistance to having her mind shut down.
Proof of this concept is in the HoM scan in that other thread. As stated before there is a big difference between probing/mind control/Illusions etc and Brain Shut down/Controlling synapses etc
Any decent telepath destroys Storm. Psi-Blitz
Any decent telekinetic destroys Storm. TK-Blitz
And I believe we've had this conversation before.
