Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Says the member with the comprehension skills of a 10 year
Case in point.Wow..no wonder your a lousy debater who just says everything everyone else says..but we'll just leave that out as well. Anyway, looks like this is another pointless thread...see ya later. 😎
Originally posted by montrailYour biting sardonic wit astounds even me.
I doubt you even went/go to school..but we'll just not talk about that. old.Wow..no wonder your a lousy debater who just says everything everyone else says..but we'll just leave that out as well. Anyway, looks like this is another pointless thread...see ya later. 😎
Originally posted by rotiart
PROVE she can defend against a tk attack. ANYWHERE.
http://img345.imageshack.us/my.php?image=stormvscandra28tf.jpg
Originally posted by batdude123
Through all this babble, the Storm supporters haven't given ONE solid reason as to why Psylocke wouldn't be able to collapse her lung or make her heart explode within the first seconds of the fight. 😬
It really depends on how Storm start out the fight...if she does this
then Psylocke will have a hard time using her powers
There also the fact that Storm controls the air, which give her the ability to forcefully remove the air from Psylocke's lung. She could also force rainwater down her lungs too.
Originally posted by HandOfFate1) She could never start off the fight like that, that would take time. 2) Why would that hinder Psylocke imploding Storm's chest cavity, does the rain have mind control powers? 🤨
It really depends on how Storm start out the fight...if she does this
then Psylocke will have a hard time using her powers
Originally posted by HandOfFateShe doesn't have fine atomic control of such things.
There also the fact that Storm controls the air, which give her the ability to forcefully remove the air from Psylocke's lung. She could also force rainwater down her lungs too.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
1) She could never start off the fight like that, that would take time.
It would only take a couple of seconds. Storm's powers only take time when she trying to control the weather over a large area. She can create something small like a lightning bolt or gale force wind within a few seconds.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
2)does the rain have mind control powers? 🤨
What are you talking about? She created thunder and lightning around the Brotherhood's head, so that it was impossible for them to concentrate to use their powers.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
She doesn't have fine atomic control of such things.
Excuse me? Why would she need atomic control of something to remove the air from Besty's lungs. 😕
Originally posted by HandOfFate
Who know how this would have ended if Psylocke continued her attack.
http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/4985/psylockeandstormmk6.th.jpg
Here you go, Psylocke would win because of this:
http://img152.imagevenue.com/loc458/th_04141_axmb_048_458lo.jpg
This first scan is just to build up the atmosphere...you've got to love Exodus.... 😛
http://img109.imagevenue.com/loc540/th_04308_axmb_102_540lo.jpg
http://img152.imagevenue.com/loc472/th_03962_axmb_101_472lo.jpg
http://img159.imagevenue.com/loc449/th_04470_axmb_103_449lo.jpg
Here you go, telekinesis can screw with Storms weather powers. Storm couldn't even whip up a wind...thank the Goddess Sersi came to save the day. 😉
http://img43.imagevenue.com/loc597/th_04885_axmb_119_597lo.jpg
Here telekinesis blocks all types of attacks including Storms. 🙂
So excluding PIS and CIS Psylocke wins. 😄
As for Emma, Storm should win that most of the time. IIRC, Storm and Emma have encounter each other on the battle field 3 times and Storm has won twice. She has even resisted mental assualt from Emma.
http://img158.imagevenue.com/loc303/th_05156_Uncanny_X_Men_129_16_303lo.jpg
The first time they met Emma knocked out Colossus, Wolvey and Storm. That's 1 win for Emma so far. Even with training from Xavier and Phoenix they couldn't resist a Psychic Force Bolt.(It says this on the scan)
http://img40.imagevenue.com/loc438/th_05296_Uncanny_X_Men_1980_03_131_07_438lo.jpg
More proof of Storm resisting probing. But from this scan we are shown that even probing causes her pain. And so far there's absolutely no proof of Storm resisting the type of attack where her brain functions are being shut down. So she ends up a vegetable because telepathy strikes at the speed of thought, thank you Chris Claremont.
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Here's another scan of a helpless Storm in tears due to Emma's probing....😆 . Also notice how Storm is telepathically cut off from her powers.
http://img506.imageshack.us/img506/2473/telepathy5ot.jpg
Here's a scan of Emma shutting of sections of multiple brains. Wolverine is resistant to probing but he is not resistant to having his brain functions shut off.
http://img150.imagevenue.com/loc530/th_05997__hr_Page_18_530lo.jpg
The second time they fought Storm didn't KO Emma..so call it what you want but it's not exactly a win. Emma surrendered to an extent so I'll give you that. But also note that Emma is a bad guy in this fight, and Good always wins over Evil.
Now please direct your attention to the first scan. Emma knocks out Shaw by mistake with her weather powers. So now she's freaked. After this Storm confronts Emma. Emma is too freaked to even move.
http://img124.imagevenue.com/loc361/th_06447__hr_Page_19_361lo.jpg
Emma finally realizes what's going on she snaps out of her trance and Storm switches bodies.
http://img146.imagevenue.com/loc545/th_06744__hr_Page_20_545lo.jpg
Here we have Emma attack Storm with a telepathic assault. She says she nows Storms mind as well as her own, this suggests that she is trying to do something to probe Storms mind again. As pointed out before Storm is resistant to probing, so resisting this is believable. However it is CIS on Emma's part when she could have just Force-Psi Bolted her again and fried Ororos mind.
But to let's continue...Storm hits Emma with Lightning....
http://img125.imagevenue.com/loc307/th_07019__hr_Page_21_307lo.jpg
What's this Emma survives? How? Who knows? It could be the silicon though....
Anyway Storm is going psycho...and is attacking Emma with her hands? 😕 But why is Emma just sitting there? It could be PIS or it could be that Emma knows the X-Men will save her. But any how that's speculation so scratch that last line.
So Emma walks free...they don't even inform the police and the icing on the cake is that she was not knocked out in that fight...does that count as a win? I think not...maybe half a win... so it's 0.5 to Storm. Had the battle continued and Xavier wasn't there maybe the outcome would have been different...but no one knows for sure...the 0.5 is very generous if you ask me.
http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/3333/xtremexmen22p17hgwellsod3.th.jpg
To start of their third and most recent battle...we have Emma vs Storm in Storms book. Here Emma telepathically assaults Storm. This is knocks Storm out of the sky....now here's the first CIS event...Emma states that she is going to switch to Diamond Form and then when they land she's going to continue the Mind Assault. The Diamond Form thing is understandable, she needs to survive the fall...but why switch back? Why not just beat Storm up with her Super Strength? Who knows Chris Claremont.
And look at that pile drive...Storm is sure lucky that's not concrete...
http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/5827/xtremexmen22p20hgwellsyd0.th.jpg
Here Emma talks to Storm and tries to modify her behaviour as stated by the scan..why?? Who knows...so lets continue...this gives Storm the few seconds she needs to summon lightning...it shocks Emma and yet again Emma's human durable body partly silicon is not knocked out by Storms lightning.
Storms wind blows Emma into a wall....
http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/4201/xtremexmen22p21hgwellsbu2.th.jpg
Emma then changes to Diamond Form...Storm has her pinned against a wall. Now would this happen to the Emma who recently used her Telepathy and Diamond Form at the same time...this has recently happened 2.5 times...but who knows?
http://img313.imageshack.us/img313/6315/xtremexmen22p22hgwellsre5.th.jpg
Here we have Emma in Diamond Form being hit by Rock and Straw travelling at "Hurrican Speeds". Storm threatens to chip Emma with an Iron Pole...where'd she get it? Who knows...but anyway she does...she says normal diamonds have pressure points..and that they can be chipped. Storm is right they can...but is Emma a normal diamond? Nope she's different. She's flawless and she's perfectly smooth...meaning no pressure points. So to answer to that question no, that steel pipe if written properly should have done nothing. Even Danger could not find a flaw in Emma's diamond form and that's says a lot. But anyway lets continue...
http://img480.imageshack.us/img480/4060/xtremexmen22p23hgwellskl9.th.jpg
Now here's the final page of their fight...Storm just continues to lecture...but does Emma back down or surrender...no she doesn't as it is stated in the scan. They do however decide a boys life is more important then their little quarrel. So they decide to work together.
So after all that...and all the PIS and CIS that Emma endured...the fight still ended in a stalemate. Again Emma wasn't knocked out.
Storm has only barely won once and even that win is a bit iffy.... also don't forget that was when Emma was a bad guy then. The one in X-treme didn't end with Storm the victor, Storm threatened (Mere threats, especially when you consider the fact that perfectly smooth diamond has no pressure points) Emma with an Iron Pole, but Emma didn't surrender. They talked and decided to work together, basically a stalemate.
So ithe score is actually 1 to Emma, 0.5 to Storm.(Because it wasn't a proper KO, and there were a few plot devices in Storms favour. Including the Shaw incident, and the Probe incident)
Fact remains Storm has never knocked Emma out. However Emma has knocked out Storm.
Conclusion if they had a fight again without PIS and CIS Emma Psi-Blitzes Storm.
To be continued in the following post due to character limit...
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Hell she even resisted telepathic attack while in the middle of combat.
This is a typical Probe as stated by Emma that she knows Storms mind as well as her own, nothing to do with shutting down someones reflexes. And again Emma was a bad guy in this book. Plus Storm didn't knock her out.
It's also PIS and CIS in a way because if Emma was going all out she would have shut down Storms subconscious reflexes like any other decent telepath or Force Psi-Bolt her. But because she's a bad guy she goes for a Probe rather then ending the match immediately.
All telepaths experience their PIS and CIS moments, this is to keep the comic interesting.
This was as stated by the the telepath a Psionic Stab...and look what it did to Storm...this pathetic excuse for a telepath actually caused her pain, too bad he didn't opt for shutting her brain off. He stabbed her mind with Psionic Energy, from the looks of it, it wasn't suppose to knock her out because if it did Marrow would have been disqualified. It was meant to make her less coherent so Marrow can gain an advantage.
So nope doesn't do anything in Storms defence...telepath wasn't trying to knock her out...and Emma is leagues above this guy.
Here Psylocke is causing trying to mind control her, this can be resisted...not shutting down her Brain or Force Psi-Bolting her...but again the Mind Control is causing her pain.
Also call it whatever you like (CIS or PIS) but is still counts as a win for Storm.
Firstly it's not a win, is Emma knocked out? Did Emma surrender? I believe the answer to that question is no.
So nope even with all the PIS and CIS going on, Storm did not win it. Heck they even fought in Storms comic and Ororo still never pulled the win...pretty shocking when you consider the fact that Chris Claremont wrote it.
All in all Emma or any other decent telepath will make Storm a vegetable before she can launch her first attack, as her brain would be shut down.
Originally posted by HandOfFate
It would only take a couple of seconds. Storm's powers only take time when she trying to control the weather over a large area. She can create something small like a lightning bolt or gale force wind within a few seconds.
Storm doesn't have seconds...one thought an Storms neck would be snapped. Not to mention Telekinesis interferes with her powers. (See above more more info)
What are you talking about? She created thunder and lightning around the Brotherhood's head, so that it was impossible for them to concentrate to use their powers.
She's going to manipulate weather patterns in someones lungs...so she can pin point exactly where a persons lungs are?? 😕
But anyway even if she could do that, that would require a lot of concentration because she would need to locate the weather patterns in Betsy's lungs. And time is something she doesn't have...because Betsy would snap her neck. And telekinesis weakens Storms powers.
Excuse me? Why would she need atomic control of something to remove the air from Besty's lungs. 😕
😕 Because Storm manipulates weather patterns not air and lets just say her control over each "wind particle" is not on par with Uber TK Wielders. It's a possibility but that means she'll need to to create a tornado inside of Besty. And she hasn't really shown that kind of ability...Plus she'll need time to do that...and time is something she doesn't have because Besty thinks and Storms neck snaps. Plus TK interferes with Storms weather powers as shown above.
So to conclude Psylocke and Emma would win.
BTW Could you please inform me if any of the scans aren't working? Thanks a lot....it's much appreciated 😄...
Originally posted by ddsmrt
do u not understand the math rachel is doing her half 50 percent plus half of psylockes totling 75 percent rachel 25 percent psylocke
Utter nonsense.
Where in those panels does it verbally state that Rachel was holding up 75% of the shield?
I see a shield equally comprised of purple and orange.
Face it, Psylocke was doing half the work of creating a shield which Rachel needed help with.
Originally posted by ExodusCloak
[B]Here you go, Psylocke would win because of this:This first scan is just to build up the atmosphere...you've got to love Exodus....
Here you go, telekinesis can screw with Storms weather powers. Storm couldn't even whip up a wind...thank the Goddess Sersi came to save the day. 😉
Correction, telekinesis on the level of Exodus can interfere with Storm's powers. So unless you have a picture of Psylocke fighting the combined might of the X-Men and Avengers then this is a bad comparison. So Exodus>>>>>Psylocke.
Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Here telekinesis blocks all types of attacks including Storms. 🙂So excluding PIS and CIS Psylocke wins.
Again, Exodus power level is much greater then Psylocke
Originally posted by ExodusCloakHere's another scan of a helpless Storm in tears due to Emma's probing....😆 . Also notice how Storm is telepathically cut off from her powers.
Wait, wait your using outdated information to make a point.🙁
Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Here's a scan of Emma shutting of sections of multiple brains. Wolverine is resistant to probing but he is not resistant to having his brain functions shut off.
That nice but it really doesn't prove anything in her battle with Storm.
Originally posted by ExodusCloak
http://img146.imagevenue.com/loc545/th_06744__hr_Page_20_545lo.jpg
Here we have Emma attack Storm with a telepathic assault. She says she nows Storms mind as well as her own, this suggests that she is trying to do something to probe Storms mind again.
You're assuming.
Originally posted by ExodusCloak
http://img125.imagevenue.com/loc307/th_07019__hr_Page_21_307lo.jpgWhat's this Emma survives? How? Who knows? It could be the silicon though....
Anyway Storm is going psycho...and is attacking Emma with her hands? 😕 But why is Emma just sitting there? It could be PIS or it could be that Emma knows the X-Men will save her. But any how that's speculation so scratch that last line.
So Emma walks free...they don't even inform the police and the icing on the cake is that she was not knocked out in that fight...does that count as a win? I think not...maybe half a win... so it's 0.5 to Storm. Had the battle continued and Xavier wasn't there maybe the outcome would have been different...but no one knows for sure...the 0.5 is very generous if you ask me.
Look to me, like your doing some spin control here.
Originally posted by ExodusCloakSo after all that...and all the PIS and CIS that Emma endured...the fight still ended in a stalemate. Again Emma wasn't knocked out.
You just can't take the fact that Storm has defeat Emma, can you? You have to find some excuse to allow Emma some hope in this confrontation. Interesting
Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Storm has only barely won once and even that win is a bit iffy.... also don't forget that was when Emma was a bad guy then. The one in X-treme didn't end with Storm the victor, Storm threatened (Mere threats, especially when you consider the fact that perfectly smooth diamond has no pressure points) Emma with an Iron Pole, but Emma didn't surrender. They talked and decided to work together, basically a stalemate.
IIRC, Emma has been shatter before and Jean had to put her back together.
Originally posted by ExodusCloak
So ithe score is actually 1 to Emma, 0.5 to Storm.(Because it wasn't a proper KO, and there were a few plot devices in Storms favour. Including the Shaw incident, and the Probe incident)
Spin baby, spin.🙂
Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Fact remains Storm has never knocked Emma out. However Emma has knocked out Storm.
Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Conclusion if they had a fight again without PIS and CIS Emma Psi-Blitzes Storm.
Only if you write it.🙂
Originally posted by HandOfFateExoduscloak using an example from UXM #130-131 vs your using an example from UXM #152. 20 issues further back makes it outdated?
Wait, wait your using outdated information to make a point.🙁
Originally posted by HandOfFate
IIRC, Emma has been shatter before and Jean had to put her back together.
Originally posted by HandOfFate
Just for fun
Originally posted by ExodusCloak
But because she's a bad guy she goes for a Probe rather then ending the match immediately.
All telepaths experience their PIS and CIS moments, this is to keep the comic interesting.
You assume a lot don't you. Also why would you think she was going for a prob when she said assault.
Originally posted by ExodusCloak
This was as stated by the the telepath a Psionic Stab...and look what it did to Storm...this pathetic excuse for a telepath actually caused her pain, too bad he didn't opt for shutting her brain off. He stabbed her mind with Psionic Energy, from the looks of it, it wasn't suppose to knock her out because if it did Marrow would have been disqualified. It was meant to make her less coherent so Marrow can gain an advantage.
Stop assuming. It doesn't say that in the book.
Originally posted by ExodusCloak So nope doesn't do anything in Storms defence...telepath wasn't trying to knock her out...and Emma is leagues above this guy.
How do you know that?
Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Firstly it's not a win, is Emma knocked out? Did Emma surrender? I believe the answer to that question is no.So nope even with all the PIS and CIS going on, Storm did not win it. Heck they even fought in Storms comic and Ororo still never pulled the win...pretty shocking when you consider the fact that Chris Claremont wrote it.
So Storm pinning her butt to a wall and threatening to shatter her diamond form doesn't count as a win. Okay 🙄
Originally posted by ExodusCloak
All in all Emma or any other decent telepath will make Storm a vegetable before she can launch her first attack, as her brain would be shut down..
Again, you're assuming.
Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Storm doesn't have seconds...one thought an Storms neck would be snapped.[/qoute]You do realize that Storm's power are based in telekinesis?
[QUOTE=7082601]Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Not to mention Telekinesis interferes with her powers. (See above more more info).
Correction again, telekinesis on Exodus level, which Psylocke is not.
Originally posted by ExodusCloak
She's going to manipulate weather patterns in someones lungs...so she can pin point exactly where a persons lungs are?? 😕.
She doesn't even have to do all that. She could just thin the air out in a location.
Originally posted by ExodusCloak
But anyway even if she could do that, that would require a lot of concentration because she would need to locate the weather patterns in Betsy's lungs. And time is something she doesn't have...because Betsy would snap her neck. And telekinesis weakens Storms powers.😕 Because Storm manipulates weather patterns not air and lets just say her control over each "wind particle" is not on par with Uber TK Wielders. It's a possibility but that means she'll need to to create a tornado inside of Besty. And she hasn't really shown that kind of ability...Plus she'll need time to do that...and time is something she doesn't have because Besty thinks and Storms neck snaps. Plus TK interferes with Storms weather powers as shown above.
Have you ever read anything on Storm?
Originally posted by ExodusCloak
BTW Could you please inform me if any of the scans aren't working? Thanks a lot....it's much appreciated 😄...
Their fine 🙂
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
[B]Exoduscloak using an example from UXM #130-131 vs your using an example from UXM #152. 20 issues further back makes it outdated?
Yep, notice Emma took her by surprise the first time and this has never happened again.😄
Originally posted by xmarksthespot By a diamond bullet aimed exactly at a single flaw in her structure that no longer exists.
Well it must have existed at that time period, seeing that Emma backed down.😛
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Sorry, no matter how big you make the pic my image is still more impressive seeing that Storm knocked her ass out.
Are we sure, Emma transforms into diamond because that looks like a glass jaw to me😆
Originally posted by HandOfFateUh... at the bottom of Emma is very much conscious, so she wasn't knocked out, and in the next pages Emma is manhandling Storm.
Sorry, no matter how big you make the pic my image is still more impressive seeing that Storm knocked her ass out.Are we sure, Emma transforms into diamond because that looks like a glass jaw to me😆
She's durable enough in human form to shrug off Storm's lightning.
