Can you scan one please?
Don't seen how a human body can take lightning with no protection.
She's definetly not taking Storms lightning here....
http://img296.imageshack.us/my.php?image=stormvsemma46rs.jpg
Can you scan one please?
Don't seen how a human body can take lightning with no protection.
She's definetly not taking Storms lightning here....
http://img296.imageshack.us/my.php?image=stormvsemma46rs.jpg
Here's another scan of a helpless Storm in tears due to Emma's probing.... . Also notice how Storm is telepathically cut off from her powers.
That scan shows nothing of what you said it does.
http://img125.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=07019__hr_Page_21_307lo.jpg
This just shows Storm beat her...
Notice Wolverine saying "I know you can kill her, it's easy to kill her, but don't because your not a beast" ????
'nuff sed.
Here you go, telekinesis can screw with Storms weather powers. Storm couldn't even whip up a wind...thank the Goddess Sersi came to save the day.http://img43.imagevenue.com/loc597/th_04885_axmb_119_597lo.jpg
How is that showing tele. screws up her powers...I see no connection what so ever.
Originally posted by What If...She's fine after that bolt. She's fine after the one in X-Treme X-Men too.
Can you scan one please?Don't seen how a human body can take lightning with no protection.
She's definetly not taking Storms lightning here....
http://img296.imageshack.us/my.php?image=stormvsemma46rs.jpg
Originally posted by HandOfFate
Correction, telekinesis on the level of Exodus can interfere with Storm's powers. So unless you have a picture of Psylocke fighting the combined might of the X-Men and Avengers then this is a bad comparison. So Exodus>>>>>Psylocke.
Actually no, Storm says a concentrated telekinetic manifestation messes with her weather powers...umm what does that mean...oh yes a Telekinetic Shield...
Psylocke can do Telekinetic Shields...
Again, Exodus power level is much greater then Psylocke
Concentrated Telekinesis concentrated Telekinesis. Speak again...
Wait, wait your using outdated information to make a point.🙁
And you're not??
That nice but it really doesn't prove anything in her battle with Storm.
No? Has Storm shown resistance to having her brain shut down? I think not....
BTW This is to show the difference between telepathic attacks which can be resisted and telepathic attacks which can't.
You're assuming.
Emma says she knows Storms mind better then hers....why would she say that? Is it because she's doing something to Storms thoughts....yes..
The fact remains Storm has never resisted someone shutting down her brain...no evidence means the point works in my favour..
Look to me, like your doing some spin control here.
Emma is still conscious after Storms lightning Bolt 🙄 . And Emma just allows Storm to try and throttle her to death? Xavier is there...if Emma tried anything she'd get psychically backhanded by Charles. And you're taking Wolverines words as unbiased truth when Emma was clearly not doing anything as was definitely not fighting to her best ability? Emma according to our forum rules would have trounced Storm.
You just can't take the fact that Storm has defeat Emma, can you? You have to find some excuse to allow Emma some hope in this confrontation. Interesting
Call it what you want but you seem to be neglecting the last pages of their battles. In the 3 times they fought Emma knocked Storm out...Storm was trying to resist as stated on the scan but couldn't..and was knocked out.
BTW Sneak attack or not....this fight will be the same, they all had a fighting chance.
In there second battle there was a lot of PIS and CIS. We don't use PIS and CIS according to forum rule.... so nope the outcome is the same. PSi-Force Bolt or Brain Shut down.
And show me the win in their third battle...again I ask you does Emma surrender? Is she knocked out? I believe not...Does Storm back up her threats? No like always her threats are moot...
IIRC, Emma has been shatter before and Jean had to put her back together.
Correction the Phoenix put her back together, and from the Danger Saga, Danger who's stats out do Storms by a mile, couldn't find a way to shatter Emma. So she resorted to blackmail.
Spin baby, spin.🙂
If you believe Wolverine stabbing Thanos with his bone claws and Thanos still survivng a win then you are deeply mistaken. It's half a win at most. Emma's not knocked out...
Just for fun
Really now, was it that, or was it all planned by Bogan? I mean that's how they captured Storm isn't it?
But it any case according to forum rules, the battle starts at the same time. Emma shuts down Storms brain before Storm can raise her hand.
Only if you write it.🙂
I think you're mistaken, this is not a comic with plot devices PIS and CIS. There is no Story. They are fighting on a neutral enviroment. This is a forum battle bound to the forum rules...so nope a Psi-Blitz takes place as it's well within Emma's character.
Originally posted by HandOfFate
You assume a lot don't you. Also why would you think she was going for a prob when she said assault.
Because of Emma's comment when she said She knows Storms mind as well as hers.
But nevertheless has Storm shown resistance to having her brain shut down? I think not.
Meaning her brain gets shut down.
Stop assuming. It doesn't say that in the book.
How do you know that?
Again Shutting somes brain off is different from that...
So Storm pinning her butt to a wall and threatening to shatter her diamond form doesn't count as a win. Okay 🙄
Yep because she wasn't knocked out, she didn't surrender as stated in the comic and perfectally smooth diamond does not have pressure points like normal diamonds. Plus all of Storms threats should be taken with a grain of salt...if a character doesn't do it on panel it doesn't count especially when they're boosting their own ego. Remember Exodus he said he couldn't be stopped but he was...so much for threats.
Again, you're assuming.
How am I assuming, have you shown a scan where Storm resists her brain being shut down? Storm hasn't done it...Storm is clearly not immune to telepathy and she has been knocked out by a Psi-Force Bolt frying her brain.
Correction again, telekinesis on Exodus level, which Psylocke is not.
A TK Shield is a concentrated manifestation, so yep that point carries.
She doesn't even have to do all that. She could just thin the air out in a location.
And she breaths how? And how does it work when a TK shield is screwing with her weather powers?
Have you ever read anything on Storm?
Yep what about you?
Their fine 🙂
Thank You 🙂
Originally posted by HandOfFate
Yep, notice Emma took her by surprise the first time and this has never happened again.😄
Suprise? The scan clearly stated they tried to resist....
It never happened again because they only fought 3 times plus blame Chris Claremont with all his PIS and CIS.
Well it must have existed at that time period, seeing that Emma backed down.😛
Yep but a Cosmic entity put her back together. And now Danger a being far superior to Storm couldn't break it.
Sorry, no matter how big you make the pic my image is still more impressive seeing that Storm knocked her ass out.
When? A sucker punch? Which for all we know could have been a part of Bogans plan?
Are we sure, Emma transforms into diamond because that looks like a glass jaw to me😆
And Storm looks like an aged hippo, your point?
Originally posted by What If...
Are their scans of telekenis snapping body parts, stopping hearts, etc?Just curious, never seen any.
by human form you do mean diamond form?
I've seen Psylocke bend a metal pole with her TK...a neck should be no problem.
And no Emma was in her human form when she was struck by lightning. This happened twice. 😛 I'm telling you it has to be the silicon.
Originally posted by What If...
Can you scan one please?Don't seen how a human body can take lightning with no protection.
She's definetly not taking Storms lightning here....
http://img296.imageshack.us/my.php?image=stormvsemma46rs.jpg
See the next page that I scanned. She's still conscious. Storms lightning didn't do anything.
Originally posted by What If...
That scan shows nothing of what you said it does.
Look at the tear near Storms eye, and why hasn't Storm whipped up a wind or a bolt of lightning to strike Emma down?
This just shows Storm beat her...
Notice Wolverine saying "I know you can kill her, it's easy to kill her, but don't because your not a beast" ????
'nuff sed.
I've seen villians say they're unbeatable...do we take that as true?
Again notice the PIS event.
How is that showing tele. screws up her powers...I see no connection what so ever.
Wrong scan see the three scans bunched together.
http://img109.imagevenue.com/loc540/th_04308_axmb_102_540lo.jpg
http://img152.imagevenue.com/loc472/th_03962_axmb_101_472lo.jpg
http://img159.imagevenue.com/loc449/th_04470_axmb_103_449lo.jpg
Here you go.
Originally posted by What If...
[B]If Storm meant to kill her, she would have killed her.Fine is an understatment considering she had emma by the throat after that bolt.
Nope, she only had Emma by the throat because Emma just stood there and watched while Storm ripped of her own clothes. CIS. Or the Xavier factor could come into play. Emma also survived Storms lightning in X-treme X-Men.
Lastly Emma will shut off her brain at the speed of thought. Storm has shown no resistance to this attack niether has Wolverine who like Storm is resistant to probing. That scan was to show the different telepathic techniques.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Uh... at the bottom of Emma is very much conscious, so she wasn't knocked out, and in the next pages Emma is manhandling Storm.
Uh...that's not Emma. Well it is but it's Emma's body being controlled by Bogan. So it's really Bogan manhandling Storm
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
She's durable enough in human form to shrug off Storm's lightning.
That's because Storm wasn't trying to kill her ass. Storm rarely hits anything with fully charged lightning bolt, she usual strikes with a bio-electric attack.
Originally posted by ExodusCloak
[B]Actually no, Storm says a concentrated telekinetic manifestation messes with her weather powers...umm what does that mean...oh yes a Telekinetic Shield...Psylocke can do Telekinetic Shields...
Concentrated Telekinesis concentrated Telekinesis. Speak again...
Hmmm...show me a scan of Psylocke actually doing this. As I said before, I know Exodus can do this but when has Psylocke?
You can't use somebody else display of power as evidence that another character with similar powers can do the same thing
Example: Justice from the New Warriors can lift a 10 ton car but Rachel can lift the car and reshape it on a molecular level. This is two different levels of telekinesis.
Originally posted by ExodusCloak And you're not??
I'm using the encounter they had afterward to prove my point.
Originally posted by ExodusCloak No? Has Storm shown resistance to having her brain shut down? I think not....
It greatly depends on who strikes first but it should be noted that Storm has shown resistance to Emma abilities.
Originally posted by ExodusCloak Emma says she knows Storms mind better then hers....why would she say that? Is it because she's doing something to Storms thoughts....yes..
No, it means your assuming again.
Originally posted by ExodusCloak The fact remains Storm has never resisted someone shutting down her brain...no evidence means the point works in my favour..
What evidence?
Originally posted by ExodusCloak Xavier is there...if Emma tried anything she'd get psychically backhanded by Charles.
Again, you're assuming
Originally posted by ExodusCloak Call it what you want but you seem to be neglecting the last pages of their battles. In the 3 times they fought Emma knocked Storm out...Storm was trying to resist as stated on the scan but couldn't..and was knocked out.BTW Sneak attack or not....this fight will be the same, they all had a fighting chance.
Again, this is Emma first encounter with Storm and the X-Men, she caught them off guard. Note that this has not happened again.
Originally posted by ExodusCloak In there second battle there was a lot of PIS and CIS. We don't use PIS and CIS according to forum rule.... so nope the outcome is the same. PSi-Force Bolt or Brain Shut down.
It's only PIS and CIS because you don't like it.
Originally posted by ExodusCloak And show me the win in their third battle...again I ask you does Emma surrender? Is she knocked out? I believe not...Does Storm back up her threats? No like always her threats are moot...
Storm doesn't have prove anything, seeing that she easily showed that Emma was not a threat to her.
Originally posted by ExodusCloak Correction the Phoenix put her back together,
That's not a correction. A correction would be if I gave you wrong information
Originally posted by ExodusCloak and from the Danger Saga, Danger who's stats out do Storms by a mile, couldn't find a way to shatter Emma. So she resorted to blackmail.
Which is stupid seeing that she been shatter before. She was shot with a diamond tip bullet and died. So apparently Danger wasn't as deadly as you thought.
Originally posted by ExodusCloak Really now, was it that, or was it all planned by Bogan? I mean that's how they captured Storm isn't it?
Have you actually read the story or just replying on the scan you saw on the net.
Originally posted by ExodusCloak But it any case according to forum rules, the battle starts at the same time. Emma shuts down Storms brain before Storm can raise her hand.I think you're mistaken, this is not a comic with plot devices PIS and CIS. There is no Story. They are fighting on a neutral enviroment. This is a forum battle bound to the forum rules...so nope a Psi-Blitz takes place as it's well within Emma's character.
Apparently you think telepathy works faster then any other power on the planet.🙁
Originally posted by ExodusCloak Because of Emma's comment when she said She knows Storms mind as well as hers.
Again you're assume. Your not given me actual fact.
Originally posted by ExodusCloak But nevertheless has Storm shown resistance to having her brain shut down? I think not.
Meaning her brain gets shut down.
Again you don't know that. Given that Storm's power hamper telepathic abilities, there a chance that a Emma's mental assault wouldn't work. See I can assume too.🙂
Originally posted by ExodusCloak Umm.. he says this fight is too close...so he Psionically stabs Storm inorder for Marrow to gain the advantage. Anything else would have resulted in a disqualification.
What's your explaination?
I guessing you have never read X-Men 325. If you had you would know that this is not an official fight and there is no threat of disqualification. I'm not sure where you getting that form, it doesn't even say that in the story.
Originally posted by ExodusCloak
See point above...and Emma has been classed as a Telepath of the first order. Has that guy?
It really doesn't matter seeing that Storm has survived a psi-attack form Emma before.
Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Again Shutting somes brain off is different from that...
Seeing that we don't know the exact nature of how a telepath shut down a person's mind, Storm natural electrical field could prevent this. This would explain why Emma has never tried this on Storm again.
Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Yep because she wasn't knocked out, she didn't surrender as stated in the comic and perfectally smooth diamond does not have pressure points like normal diamonds.
The fight was already over with, there was no reason for Emma to surrender when Storm has already won.
Originally posted by ExodusCloak
How am I assuming, have you shown a scan where Storm resists her brain being shut down? Storm hasn't done it...Storm is clearly not immune to telepathy and she has been knocked out by a Psi-Force Bolt frying her brain.
Again, early Storm
Originally posted by ExodusCloak
A TK Shield is a concentrated manifestation, so yep that point carries.
Unless Exodus created the TK field then it doesn't count as anything.
Originally posted by ExodusCloak
And she breaths how? And how does it work when a TK shield is screwing with her weather powers?
I didn't know Storm was fighting Exodus.
Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Yep what about you?
I'm starting to think you haven't.
Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Suprise? The scan clearly stated they tried to resist....
That doesn't make a different. If a person is caught off guard, then resistance is futile. IIRC, they had no idea that there was a telepath within the Hellfire club. So Emma easily by-passed their mental shielding.
Originally posted by ExodusCloak
And Storm looks like an aged hippo, your point?
Seems like I hit a nerve
If you wish to keep this going please start a Storm Vs Emma thread. I don't want anybody to get upset with us for high jacking there thread. 🙂
Originally posted by HandOfFate
Hmmm...show me a scan of Psylocke actually doing this. As I said before, I know Exodus can do this but when has Psylocke?You can't use somebody else display of power as evidence that another character with similar powers can do the same thing
Example: Justice from the New Warriors can lift a 10 ton car but Rachel can lift the car and reshape it on a molecular level. This is two different levels of telekinesis.
Nope but Exodus' TK Shield is what interferred with with Storms powers. Psylocke has created a TK shield before.
I'm using the encounter they had afterward to prove my point.
And that encounter is not considered ancient by comic standards?
It greatly depends on who strikes first but it should be noted that Storm has shown resistance to Emma abilities.
Telepathy strikes at the Speed of Thought...Storms power is based on Psionic Manipulation which is a little slower.
And what you don't seem to understand is Telepathy is not as one dimensional as you make it sound. The Wolverine scan is proof of this.
And Emma giving an entire crowd orgasms is more proof of this.
I'll say it again Storm has never shown resistance to that type of attack.
No, it means your assuming again.
So what you're trying to say is that Emma saying that she knows Storms mind as well as her own has nothing to do with her Psychic attack? 🙄
What evidence?
Exactly the lack of evidence means Storms is going down.
Again, you're assuming
The Xavier thing is an assumption, a very good assumption may I add, but it is without a doubt CIS.
Again, this is Emma first encounter with Storm and the X-Men, she caught them off guard. Note that this has not happened again.
She caught them off guard but they had a chance to resist as stated in the scan. It did not happen because writers never had her Force-Psi-Bolt the X-Men again. Take it up with them.
It's only PIS and CIS because you don't like it.
Do you even understand what PIS and CIS is? 😕
Storm doesn't have prove anything, seeing that she easily showed that Emma was not a threat to her.
How exactly by not being able to finish the match? Or did she realize that there was nothing she could do to break Emma's diamond form especially with a metal pole. I'd also like to see her try that on the Emma who has shown to use her telepathy inside of Diamond Form.
That's not a correction. A correction would be if I gave you wrong information
Which is stupid seeing that she been shatter before. She was shot with a diamond tip bullet and died. So apparently Danger wasn't as deadly as you thought.
Not so stupid when a Cosmic Entity puts you back together. And did you even read the Danger Saga?
Have you actually read the story or just replying on the scan you saw on the net.
I've read it, but you seem to think Storm will start of the match 30cm from Emma and have a chance to raise her fist. Plus it's Emma is constantly reading her allies thoughts it's out of character for her to get sucker punched.
Apparently you think telepathy works faster then any other power on the planet.🙁
Did I say that? I said it strikes at the speed of thought. Bell rings both people think and Emma strikes first.
People who think at super speeds can take telepaths down with a speed blitz. The Flash, Superman etc...
Again you're assume. Your not given me actual fact.
Again it's a very good interpretation of the attack since that line is actually stated on the scan.
But again, Storm has not shown any resistance to that type of attack.
Again you don't know that. Given that Storm's power hamper telepathic abilities, there a chance that a Emma's mental assault wouldn't work. See I can assume too.🙂
It's not a mental assault. She's shutting down Storms brain big difference. Your assumption is officially void.
I guessing you have never read X-Men 325. If you had you would know that this is not an official fight and there is no threat of disqualification. I'm not sure where you getting that form, it doesn't even say that in the story.
If it wasn't a one on one duel then why didn't Wolverine, Callisto and Colossus interfere?
It was a fight between Marrow and Storm. That Morlock wasn't suppose to interfere.
Originally posted by HandOfFate
[B]It really doesn't matter seeing that Storm has survived a psi-attack form Emma before.
Ahh...now it works in my favour....what exactly was the nature of the attack in Uncanny?
The First time was a Force Psi-Bolt, Storm didn't resist this.
The Second time Unknown but had to do with Storm mind.
The Third was a behaviour configuration.
Seeing that we don't know the exact nature of how a telepath shut down a person's mind, Storm natural electrical field could prevent this. This would explain why Emma has never tried this on Storm again.
Her natural electrical field does not make her immune to telepathy...and now who is the one who's assuming.
The fight was already over with, there was no reason for Emma to surrender when Storm has already won.
No it wasn't and Emma even stated that she's going to surrender. There's nothing Storm can do to Emma in her Diamond Form.
BTW She won't find an Iron Pole lying around in this battle.
Again, early Storm
Unless Exodus created the TK field then it doesn't count as anything.
The nature of the energy of telekinesis is the same. That's the nature of all psionic energy is different.
I didn't know Storm was fighting Exodus.
I'm starting to think you haven't.
That doesn't make a different. If a person is caught off guard, then resistance is futile. IIRC, they had no idea that there was a telepath within the Hellfire club. So Emma easily by-passed their mental shielding.
Nope, there are many people who are able to shrug of telepathy when caught unaware. Ie Storm in that Marrow scan. It all depends on the nature of the telepathic attack.
Seems like I hit a nerve
If you wish to keep this going please start a Storm Vs Emma thread. I don't want anybody to get upset with us for high jacking there thread. 🙂
Will do, I'll do a search, they may be one existing already.
Originally posted by stormfront13
why is it PIS and CIS when emma doesn't instantly take out storm...but it's that storm is just too weak when her lightning doesn't instantly take out emma when we all know it could have considering her lightning has taken more durable opponents?
It should be but there's quite a lot of silicon in Emma's body and the fact that Storm has never knocked Emma out with her lightning, and well Emma has taken Storm, Wolvey and Colossus out with a Force Psi Bolt in their first encounter, but she never tries this again. That's why it's PIS and CIS.
BTW This should be discussed in the Emma vs Storm thread.
Emma has taken Storm, Wolvey and Colossus out with a Force Psi Bolt in their first encounter, but she never tries this again. That's why it's PIS and CIS.
Not only was it their first encounter, but it was a surpise attack.
They didn't even know who she was, much less know she was in the same area as them.
It was like hitting a blind man.
After that encounter they knew of her at least, imo that is why she didn't try to ever sneak attack again.
Originally posted by What If...
Not only was it their first encounter, but it was a surpise attack.They didn't even know who she was, much less know she was in the same area as them.
It was like hitting a blind man.After that encounter they knew of her at least, imo that is why she didn't try to ever sneak attack again.
The scan says that they couldn't resist even with all their training from the Professor and Phoenix.
And again Emma has never Psi-Force Bolted Storm again.
BTW There's an Emma vs Storm thread to discuss this in.
I've seen villians say they're unbeatable...do we take that as true?
Again notice the PIS event.
Considering Emma is practically on her knees with Storms hand wrapped around her throat, we can presume 99% she could kill her.
And no Emma was in her human form when she was struck by lightning. This happened twice. I'm telling you it has to be the silicon.
As said before, the magnitude of the lighnting can be altered, Emma was on top of her, she got her off with a quick lightning bolt to the face.
There is no evidence showing she has some wierd immunity to lightning to we must presume in a normal human body it can easily kill her.
Wrong scan see the three scans bunched together.http://img109.imagevenue.com/loc540/th_04308_axmb_102_540lo.jpg
http://img152.imagevenue.com/loc472/th_03962_axmb_101_472lo.jpg
http://img159.imagevenue.com/loc449/th_04470_axmb_103_449lo.jpgHere you go.
You posted the one scan out of these that didn't show how it affected her powers 😛
Not to mention I doubt Emma is on scale with that kind of tk/tp
Then bring it to the Storm vs. Emma thread, your quotes aren't there.
You posted the one scan out of these that didn't show how it affected her powers 😛
Not to mention I doubt Emma is on scale with that kind of tk/tpThen bring it to the Storm vs. Emma thread, your quotes aren't there.
No I didn't, check my original post again. Look above that link.
TK is not the same as telepathy.
This is for Psylocke not Emma, Emma has only used TK on 3 occasions.
The first was when Jean displaced her mind into Emma's body.
The second was when Emma levitated Kitchen utensils and the third was in in Endsong.
She'll use it again in Warsong when that comic comes out.
The TK shield messed with Storms powers, again Psylocke can do shields. Her TK is also stronger then Rachels as stated in Uncanny.
