World War 3 - New World Order - Pole Shift - Age of Peace (2006-2012)

Parker, the points I "avoided" were comprised of speculation, assumption, and rampant paranoia. And besides, no matter how many common sense rebuttals I actually post, nothing gets through, which is why I found it incredibly ironic that you were criticizing someone else for being stubborn and not wanting to see the other side.

I actually laughed a little bit when you said that aluminum couldn't damage steel. Do I even have to post a rebuttal for a "point" like that?

EDIT: Contextual purposes for the above:

say the steel would have been quite heavily damaged by the aircraft itself. laughing jets are aluminum,it cannot damage steel.that jet is going to crumpple whenit impacts with steel.You take a jet and ram it into a steel bridge,that bridge is going to remain standing.the airliner is going to be crumpled to pieces though.

And for your information, there was a short period of time where I considered it possible that 9/11 was an inside job. I watched Loose Change, considered the points made, and watched other videos and read plenty of websites. But you know what? At the end of the day, no amount of out-of-context quotes, "decisive" video evidence, or tricky video editing can compare with common sense and actual evidence. And after I read and watched everything I could from both sides, the conspiracy theorists looked like jokes -- which they basically are.

So you can continue saying I was wrong, that you "proved me wrong," mentioning me XYZ and Kharma in negative ways in every single post, and including a copious amount of 🙄 in your posts, but no matter what you continue to repeat you have proved nothing. You ramble on and on, saying we're wrong and ignorant, latching onto the words and ideas of Nuclear and Deano like a sad, sad follower who couldn't come up with an original thought to save his life.

But hey, what do I know? And now that I think about it, what do I care?

Originally posted by J-Beowulf
Parker, the points I "avoided" were comprised of speculation, assumption, and rampant paranoia. And besides, no matter how many common sense rebuttals I actually post, nothing gets through, which is why I found it incredibly ironic that you were criticizing someone else for being stubborn and not wanting to see the other side.

I actually laughed a little bit when you said that aluminum couldn't damage steel. Do I even have to post a rebuttal for a "point" like that?

EDIT: Contextual purposes for the above:

And for your information, there was a short period of time where I considered it possible that 9/11 was an inside job. I watched Loose Change, considered the points made, and watched other videos and read plenty of websites. But you know what? At the end of the day, no amount of out-of-context quotes, "decisive" video evidence, or tricky video editing can compare with common sense and actual evidence. And after I read and watched everything I could from both sides, the conspiracy theorists looked like jokes -- which they basically are.

So you can continue saying I was wrong, that you "proved me wrong," mentioning me XYZ and Kharma in negative ways in every single post, and including a copious amount of 🙄 in your posts, but no matter what you continue to repeat you have proved nothing. You ramble on and on, saying we're wrong and ignorant, latching onto the words and ideas of Nuclear and Deano like a sad, sad follower who couldn't come up with an original thought to save his life.

But hey, what do I know? And now that I think about it, what do I care?

your so full of crap as always.they were FACTS that prove it.you didnt adress them because you know perfectly well you cant counter them.you tried to rebfute me and i refuted you back and you couldnot counter it,plain and simple.as were many of my points you couldnt.the one thats going on assumption and speculation is YOU.Im not paranoid,unlike you I have studied the the facts.your so called common sense rebuttal i countered.

yes because aluminum CANT damage steel.i know because a friend of mine who is outraged over 9-11 as well used to be a construction worker and worked with steel all the time.he knows this stuff and isnt afraid of the truth like you are.

uh dude hate to break your heart but common sense and the videos show bombs went off,anybody with logic sense woulf know that. 🙄 yeah and when you went to those websites you obviously ignored facts they pointed out just like you ignore my facts.
you can live in that fantasy world all you want and believe I have proved nothing if that makes you feel better.your full of crap and you know it.yes you are IGNORANT because of how you constantly ignore facts that prove you dont have a clue what your talking about.the only sad follower here is you for being afraid of the truth and accepting their fairy tale version. 😛 hey great question there,asking me what do you know? you dont know anything about logic or common sense whatsoever. 😆

hey at least according to time magazine,89% of the USA agrees with me.Those people unlike you are obviously not scared of the truth. 😛

There are three major areas of concern for us:

1. THE SOLAR CYCLE 23 THAT ENDS WITHIN THE NEXT FEW YEARS OR SO.

2. SOLAR CYCLE 24, AROUND 2010-2014 AT ITS PEAK.

3. SOLAR CYCLE 25, around 2021-2025 AT ITS PEAK.

The primary danger is that we are closer, not further away from the Solar Cycle that produces the NOVA of 7 TIMES foretold in Scripture. I am very concerned that Any 3 of the above cycles is going to be the cycle that will produce it, and the SIGNS that would appear are starting to show themselves, just before the destruction comes, and how they tie directly to many prophecies and predictions.

Personally I believe that SOLAR CYCLE 24 is the one we need to pay attention to the most. Because I believe that it is during this cycle that we will see the full blown Pole-Shift occur.

Enoch 79:6

"THE MOON SHALL CHANGE ITS LAWS, AND NOT BE SEEN IN ITS PROPER PERIOD..."

As to the discussion of the Moon, IT IS VERY POSSIBLE THAT DURING THE POLE-SHIFT ON EARTH THE MOON WILL NOT KEEP ITS "COURSE". The course of the Moon is ITS ORBIT, and the Book of Enoch claims the MOON WILL NOT BE SEEN IN IT'S PROPER PERIOD, and that most likely means MAJOR AND MASSIVE UPHEAVALS UPON EARTH, for the TIDES are directly related to the Moon and its orbit. THE IMPLICATION OF ENOCH COULD BE THAT THE MOON MOVES CLOSER TO EARTH, and does not appear in its "NORMAL SEASONS" or PERIOD.

That possibly means a major change in the VELOCITY OF THE MOON AROUND THE EARTH. The question is, what MAKES THE MOON CHANGE ITS ORBIT, SPEED OF ROTATION AND DISTANCE FROM THE EARTH? Either way, this would bring huge gravitational changes upon the Earth, and THE SEA AND WAVES would INDEED BE ROARING, and the NATIONS OF THE WORLD WOULD BE IN DEEP DISTRESS, FOR NOT KNOWING WHAT WAS COMING UPON THE EARTH.

Isaiah 65:17

"For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind."

Isaiah 66:22

"For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the LORD, so shall your seed and your name remain."

Peter 3:13

"Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness."

Beware of the false and or confused scientists that are the blind leading the blind. The common explanation for the erratic weather we are having from them is that either El Nino, or that Earth’s weather has usually BEEN UNSTABLE, and that the relative calm of our weather patterns of these last few centuries is VERY ABNORMAL, and we are entering back into a more "normal" weather pattern. If an anomaly occurs, it is explained away. All explanations will fall short. VERY SHORT.

The wise will begin to detect these changes far in advance of mankind in general, who has no idea as to what is going on, either in nature or in the affairs of men. But the event does in fact change the HEAVENS and CHANGE THE EARTH. There are new land masses, new alignments in the sky, ect.

Enoch 45:4 & 5

"In that day I will cause my elect one to dwell in the MIDST OF THEM;
WILL CHANGE THE FACE OF HEAVEN, will bless it and illuminate it forever..
I will also CHANGE THE FACE OF THE EARTH, and BLESS IT, and cause those whom I have elected to dwell upon it..."

Isaiah 13:13

"THEREFORE I WILL
SHAKE THE HEAVENS,
AND THE EARTH
SHALL REMOVE OUT OF HER PLACE,
IN THE WRATH OF THE LORD OF HOSTS,
AND IN THE DAY OF HIS FIERCE ANGER."

The word "remove" means here to UNDULATE, TO QUIVER, TO WAVER. The word "out of her place" means her STANDING, HER SPOT, AS SHE IS TODAY. Thus the EARTH, with its 23 degree inclination, IS TO BE CHANGED. She shall be changed, and there will come a literal POLAR SHIFT. If one were standing upon the ground, and the POLES SHIFTED, then we would find a reference to the stars falling, or the Sun standing still, etc. In point of fact WE DO.

Matthew 24:29

"Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken"

Mark 13:25

"And the stars of heaven shall fall, and the powers that are in heaven shall be shaken."

Originally posted by Mr Parker
your so full of crap as always.they were FACTS that prove it.you didnt adress them because you know perfectly well you cant counter them.you tried to rebfute me and i refuted you back and you couldnot counter it,plain and simple.as were many of my points you couldnt.the one thats going on assumption and speculation is YOU.Im not paranoid,unlike you I have studied the the facts.your so called common sense rebuttal i countered.

yes because aluminum CANT damage steel.i know because a friend of mine who is outraged over 9-11 as well used to be a construction worker and worked with steel all the time.he knows this stuff and isnt afraid of the truth like you are.

uh dude hate to break your heart but common sense and the videos show bombs went off,anybody with logic sense woulf know that. 🙄 yeah and when you went to those websites you obviously ignored facts they pointed out just like you ignore my facts.
you can live in that fantasy world all you want and believe I have proved nothing if that makes you feel better.your full of crap and you know it.yes you are IGNORANT because of how you constantly ignore facts that prove you dont have a clue what your talking about.the only sad follower here is you for being afraid of the truth and accepting their fairy tale version. 😛 hey great question there,asking me what do you know? you dont know anything about logic or common sense whatsoever. 😆

hey at least according to time magazine,89% of the USA agrees with me.Those people unlike you are obviously not scared of the truth. 😛

Aluminum CAN damage steel, to say that it would simply bounce off or do no damage at all is just plain stupid. I suppose, according to this logic, that Ice couldn't damage ships either? I mean, ice is a lot weaker than metal, right? With enough force, anything can damage anything. I'm sure that 500 mph is sufficient force for aluminum to damage steel.

You mentioned the freefall speed of the towers? I ask you to read http://www.debunking911.com/freefall.htm yet somehow I believe you'll simply dismiss it as bullcrap. But it's ok, I tried.

Molten steel at the bottom of the towers?
http://www.debunking911.com/moltensteel.htm#molten
None of us actually know what it is, but doesn't that sound like the most logical explanation? After all, the aluminum from the planes didn't simply disappear. Wouldn't it make more sense that the molten metal at the bottom of ground zero was the metal that melts at a much lower temperature, a temperature easily reached inside the towers due to jet fuel fires? Add to that the fact that the jet files would have been centered around all of the aluminum in the wreckage of the planes, and I'd say it's safe to say that the molten metal was aluminum, and not steel.

Also, if you'll take note of the pictures in the above link, you'll notice that... oh my, could that be?... the steel columns on the outside of the building appear to be severed and heavily damaged where the aluminum aircraft struck. Funny, that... I mean, your friend said that was impossible.

And of course, in this article ( http://www.debunking911.com/civil.htm ) there is a letter from a professor of civil engineering to the editors of the site, giving his opinions. Here's a few snippets to consider:

When the aircraft impacted the towers at speeds of about 500 plus mph, many steel columns were immediately severed and others rendered weak by the following fires.

Steel bridge girders are bent to conform to the curved roadway by spot heating flanges between 800 and 1000 degrees Fahrenheit. It is easy to comprehend the loss of carrying capacity of all the structural steel due to the raging fires fed by the jet's fuel as well as aircraft and building contents.

Interesting. I would think that the steel would only have to be weakened in order to severely compromise the structural integrity of the buildings, especially with other steel girders and supports severed and heavily damaged by the impact of the aircraft. And yes, they were heavily damaged. Watch any of the numerous videos of the aircraft impacting with the towers and you can see the planes slice almost straight through the towers.

And Jones, whose 42 page report has been used over and over by conspiracy theorists everywhere?

Once again, debunking911.com pulls through. http://www.debunking911.com/jones.htm

And yet another article from the same website, detailing the tricky language used by conspiracy theorists in polls: http://www.debunking911.com/zogby.htm

From what I can see, there are plenty of alternative explanations for these "facts" you always claim to have.

If I missed anything please let me know.

Matthew 24:21-22

"For then
shall be great tribulation,
such as was not since the beginning of the world
to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
And except those days should be shortened,
there should no flesh be saved:
but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened."

That the Sun goes into massive Solar instability is written in Scripture as shown here:

Isaiah 30:26

"Moreover the
light of the moon shall be as the light of the sun,
and the
light of the sun shall be sevenfold,
as the light of seven days,
in the day that the LORD bindeth up the breach of his people, and healeth the stroke of their wound."

Now if the SUN INCREASES ITS LIGHT BY SEVEN TIMES, that means it gets MUCH HOTTER AS WELL. That instability has already been detected by our scientists, and is just beginning. As we approach SOLAR CYCLE 24, we are going to find more and more INSTABILITY and A SOLAR FLARE is the most likely explanation for this Scripture.

The light of the Moon increasing to that of our present day Sun is hard to imagine, but that is what it says will occur.

If the earth was under the same 24 hour day with sunlight that intense, It would be hard for anyone to live at all, for the heat buildup over a 12 hour day would kill MANY. Thus, said Jesus, "THE DAYS WILL BE SHORTENED FOR THE ELECTS SAKE."

By bringing a day down to 16 hours, with daylight only 8 hours and night only 8 hours, then THE HEAT WOULD SCORCH MAN, BUT NOT KILL MAN. NATURE WILL HAVE GONE TOTALLY OUT OF CONTROL!

Isaiah 38:8

Behold, I will bring again the shadow of the degrees, which is gone down in the sun dial of Ahaz, ten degrees backward.
So the sun returned ten degrees,
by which degrees it was gone down.

That sounds like a partial POLAR SHIFT, when the SUN REVERSES COURSE. That is how it would appear on Earth, as the land masses MOVE OVER THE CORE OF THE EARTH, if this is a crustal shift. It would appear as though the SUN HAD MOVED.

No one can be 100% sure, but the evidence is mounting that it is much nearer than most expect, and it will come as A SNARE, which means SUDDENLY and without WARNING TO THOSE WHO ARE NOT LOOKING FOR THESE THINGS.

Originally posted by J-Beowulf
Aluminum CAN damage steel, to say that it would simply bounce off or do no damage at all is just plain stupid. I suppose, according to this logic, that Ice couldn't damage ships either? I mean, ice is a lot weaker than metal, right? With enough force, anything can damage anything. I'm sure that 500 mph is sufficient force for aluminum to damage steel.

You mentioned the freefall speed of the towers? I ask you to read http://www.debunking911.com/freefall.htm yet somehow I believe you'll simply dismiss it as bullcrap. But it's ok, I tried.

Molten steel at the bottom of the towers?
http://www.debunking911.com/moltensteel.htm#molten
None of us actually know what it is, but doesn't that sound like the most logical explanation? After all, the aluminum from the planes didn't simply disappear. Wouldn't it make more sense that the molten metal at the bottom of ground zero was the metal that melts at a much lower temperature, a temperature easily reached inside the towers due to jet fuel fires? Add to that the fact that the jet files would have been centered around all of the aluminum in the wreckage of the planes, and I'd say it's safe to say that the molten metal was aluminum, and not steel.

Also, if you'll take note of the pictures in the above link, you'll notice that... oh my, could that be?... the steel columns on the outside of the building appear to be severed and heavily damaged where the aluminum aircraft struck. Funny, that... I mean, your friend said that was impossible.

And of course, in this article ( http://www.debunking911.com/civil.htm ) there is a letter from a professor of civil engineering to the editors of the site, giving his opinions. Here's a few snippets to consider:

Interesting. I would think that the steel would only have to be weakened in order to severely compromise the structural integrity of the buildings, especially with other [b]steel girders and supports severed and heavily damaged by the impact of the aircraft. And yes, they were heavily damaged. Watch any of the numerous videos of the aircraft impacting with the towers and you can see the planes slice almost straight through the towers.

And Jones, whose 42 page report has been used over and over by conspiracy theorists everywhere?

Once again, debunking911.com pulls through. http://www.debunking911.com/jones.htm

And yet another article from the same website, detailing the tricky language used by conspiracy theorists in polls: http://www.debunking911.com/zogby.htm

From what I can see, there are plenty of alternative explanations for these "facts" you always claim to have.

If I missed anything please let me know. [/B]

oh please STOP being ignorant,all of that stuff you posted is full of lies and propaganda.I know that because unlike you,I know how the major media works.those sites you listed are lies and propaganda.they are planted by government ops.if you knew anything about government you would know that.I told you before,you want to learn the truth,start reading books like the ones I mentioned back there that debunk all of that-Inside Job By Jim Marrs,9-11 distortions and omissions by david ray griffith,9-11 the new pearl harbour,unanswered questions about the bush administration by griffith as well,and the best out there that debunks all that crap you put up-DEBUNKING 9-11 DEBUNKING,an answer to popular mechanics and other 9-11 defenders also by david griffith,that guy knows his stuff,all those lies you posted are all addressed in those books.

plus your laughable some witnesses would report that they didnt hear explosions argument is so laughable, it doesnt disprove what I said back there that the witnesses I mentioned,saw and heard explosions going on BEFORE the plane hit the tower and that the one in particular I mentioned back there,that he tried to tell his story before the 9-11 commission behind closed doors and they did not report his story.That he will go over to other countrys and they report it in the news over there,over here they wont report it because it doesnt go along with the offical version.if you would also read the book TOWERS OF DECEPTION the media cover up of 9-11,you would know this kind of stuff how the major media is controlled by the intelligence community of the us government and they are only going to print what ythey want you to hear ,if you would read those books,and STOP listening the lies and propaganda by sites like that promote the offical version,you would know you have been brainwashed.

please,debunking 9-11 sites are not reliable sources,they are usually planted by government ops as disinformation,so I am not going to read a government plant site that brainwashed you into believeing that fairy tale that those buildings would have fallen at free fall speed when its been a proven fact dating way back since the 1200's and scientists have always gone by since then that buildings CANT fall at the SAME freefall speed due to a mere collapse of a fire that buildings DO fall at due to demolitions.

But thats right,you wont read those books and will only selectively read PARTS of posts and wont investigate what those witnesses said because you want to live in your own little fairy tale land. 😛 Please,any debunking 9-11 site is full of lies,they're plants by government ops meant to brainwash people like you who are gullible for that kind of stuff.Your doing what kharma dog did over at that 9-11 thread,posting a link to a site that doesnt counter any of what I pointed out and again is not reliable.you wont ever address those points I made,or ever read those books that counter those laughable links you posted,so why should I read the lies and propaganda that you always ignorantly fall for constantly since your so afraid of the truth? you fall for disinforamtion constantly all the time like that other link screw loose change I remember you referring people to.that video is so full of B.S its pitiful.it doesnt counter anything of loose change.your obviously afraid of the truth and not worth my time anymore.Not going to waste my time with some arrogant dude who isnt mature enough to admit he has been proven wrong countless of times before.

btw,unlike you,I AM mature enough to admit when i might be wrong about 9-11.I was just going by what that guy I know said who used to work in construction and been around steel a lot when I made the comment about aluminum hitting steel so I wont speak for him anymore.I need to hear other experts speak at conventions first before I take his word for that.But just because I admitted I could be wrong about that since it was only my friend I was going by,I have STILL proved you wrong that explosives went off by what I just posted about reliable witnesses said,again dont come back with that laughable excuse again either that other witnesses probably didnt hear them going off because that doesnt disprove what they saw and heard BEFORE the tower was struck.AGAIN willie rodriguez testimony alone and what the designers said proves your full of crap.

oh jesus christ J,as usual you fall for lies and propaganda.the sources you listed have always been known as unreliable sources,wikipedia and that 9-11myths link and all those other links you listed that promote the official version are not reliable sources.the people who promote that are people that work for the government and have government contracts.they know if they dont promote what they're company wants,they will lose their jobs.thats something that you will NEVER learn though until you start subscribing to news sources like MEDIA BYPASS.AMERICAN FREE PRESS and read books like the one I mentioned Towers of deception-the media coverup of 9-11.That author of that book not only documents how the media lied about 9-11 and did not do any real investigations but it documents how they have always have dating way back to world war one.I knew I would I would find a bunch of lies and propaganda if I went to those threads you mentioned.Like i said,I will go by what scientists have gone by of the laws of science since the 1200's over the crap that you always fall for anyday of the year. 😆 😆

AGAIN,STOP LISTENING TO DEBUNKING 9-11 LINKS.THEY ARE PLANTED BY GOVERNMET OPS .and START reading those books I mentioned and START subscribing to those newspapers I mentioned as well.just do a google search of those two magazines and you will find out how you can order them and you will learn how you have been brainwashed by the major media.do THOSE things and i will discuss this with you again,dont and I wont.like you said before which I answered for you, what do you know about 9-11? nothing!!!!!!! you've been brainwashed by the media because your afraid of the truth.

that thing thats laughable about those sites and other such as poular mechanics debunking 9-11 debunking,is their storys are constantly changing all the time because they are countered and proven to be wrong. 😛

oh finally,one last thing that your not aware of J is that these links you go to and fall for,will NEVER debate with people like griffith and others who have proven the official version to be false and full of lies because they know they will be made into a bunch of laughable stocks who cant counter what they say.so instead of going public with it to prove them wrong,or instead of the government letting them address these points they make in a hearing,they wont because they know they will be proven wrong so thas why they put out these disinformation sites because they know people like you and Dog will ignorantly swallow and eat up that crap cause they know you guys are afraid of the truth.I can see that you have been so brainwashed by the government with their lies and propaganda though so dont expect a reply from me.If you address me,you will just be making yourself look like a fool like kharma dog constantly does all the time cause I wont read it.Im done trying to reason with someone who only selectively reads PARTS ofmy posts and I have proven wrong time and time again but still lives in denial over it and cant be mature enough to admit it and who I know wont read the books I mentioned.

So any site that contradicts what you believe is planted by the government? Ok.

I'm really not sure why you had to make three seperate and incredibly hard to read posts all saying the same thing. Let me sum up your posts in a few sentences to spare the rest of us:

I refuse to read the links you posted because they disagree with what I believe, and they are planted there by government ops. However, you are ignorant because you won't read any of the material I post. You and kharma and xyz have all been brainwashed by the government and you are afraid of the truth.

Yawn. Seriously, cut the word count down in your posts. That, or at least space them out and use some damn punctuation. You do know that there is a space after a period, right?

I certainly hope that you don't expect me to read books and subscribe to crackpot magazines when you won't spend the time to read a short online article simply because you KNOW it provides a more realistic scenario.

Im done trying to reason with someone who only selectively reads PARTS ofmy posts and I have proven wrong time and time again but still lives in denial over it and cant be mature enough to admit it and who I know wont read the books I mentioned.

Well, that makes two of us then. How can you possibly criticize someone for not reading up on the other side of the argument when you don't do it yourself? And of all people, Parker, you commenting on me supposedly only reading parts of your posts is utterly hilarious. You do the exact same thing in almost every single reply of yours. Either you ignore it, or you dismiss it as government propoganda. Not only are you obnoxious and arrogant in your posting, but you're also a hypocrite.

I was just going by what that guy I know said who used to work in construction and been around steel a lot when I made the comment about aluminum hitting steel so I wont speak for him anymore.I need to hear other experts speak at conventions first before I take his word for that.

Indeed. And you passed it off as if it was the word of God himself; you were so sure of what your "friend" said and believed. THAT is ignorance, Parker. The day you realize that is the day you realize how irrational you are.

And it's funny, Parker, that when I actually provide links and common sense to refute your arguments, you dismiss them as "crap" and refuse to read them. You then go on and on about how you proved me wrong, when I posted a rebuttal to most if not all of your points, uncluding the words of well-known and respected engineers.

Your posts sound more and more like someone who doesn't want to believe they've been proven wrong. Is that the case here, Parker?

I scanned through your post there -thats different than readings and I knew you would be stupid enough to talk to yourself like kharma doand lord xyz does.

as I was saying before I got cut off from my computer,I knew you would be foolish enough to come back here and talk to yourself like kharma dog and xyz do and try to get me to read your posts like they do cause your the only one reading your nonsense.LOL.I scanned over it-I didnt read it,big difference there.I could tell from a couple words you were trying to get me to read your posts.

Im done with you on this debate.Im tired of proving you wrong over and over again but your too arrogant to admit you were wrong.You have been so brainwashed by the government with their lies and propaganda,you clearly cant think for yourself and think outside the box.thats really sad.you dont realise that the governments story has constantly been changing all the time because they cant counter the experts.AGAIN they wont allow the experts to come before congress and state theri case against the government and give them their say because they know the majority of the people are fed up with the Bush administration and his phony war on Iraq and that they cant counter what the experts like griffith are saying.Bushs popularity is slow low because more and more people are waking up to the fact that 9-11 was an inside job to get us involved in his phony war.

You can live in denial all you want that I didnt prove you wrong.The experts have proven all that nonsense you posted to be lies.As I already proved to you with what they said years ago,back in 93 when the towers were bombed before,they made a documentary on the towers back then and one of the designers-whos name I mentioned to you back on that 9-11 tape,says on that tape they designed the buildings so that it could take MULTIPLE hits from airliners and another one-whos name I mentioned to you back there as well, also said they designed the buildings with all that in mind ANTICIPATING all that could happen and the building was OVER DESIGNED than most buildings to withstand that. I will take the words over the actual engineers what they said back in 93 over the government plant sites you blindly swallow the garbage of any day of the year.LOL.

see AGAIN,you can ignore what those designers said all you want to and blindly worship those disinformation sites all you want as well,but you CANT get around what proves you wrong every damn time,is the testimony of willie rodriguez who AGAIN-since you have reading comprehension problems like all the 9-11 apologists do.LOL.He was a janitor in the basement sub levels when the bombs went off,and heard and SAW explosions going off below seconds BEFORE the tower was hit from above him which he described as a loud thud above.He is the smoking gun that proves you have been a fool to listen to the governments explanation.

He has had others verify his statements who also were there with him and survived that they ALSO saw and heard explosions going off in the basements below before the plane struck.
the other thing that shoots down your laughable other witnesses not reporting it crap is so what if others did not hear those explosions,Rodriguez and other survivors heard and SAW the explosions and the government did not want to hear it because it does not go along with their fairy tale that you worship.AGAIN he was behind the closed doors of the 9-11 commission coverup and gave them testimony BEHIND CLOSED DOORS which never got printed inthe final report because it did not go along with their version.AGAIN the media here in the states,ignored him and others as well when they tried to tell their story,overseas,they report it.but again you wouldnt know how here in the states,the mainstream press is controlled by intelligence communitys and they wont print what they dont want you to hear.

go ahead and ramble on again,Im getting more and more tired all the time of proving you wrong and having to repeat myself since you ignore facts all the time.Like I said,Im done with trying to reason with you on this issue.Never mind that there is a 9-11 thread devoted to new yorkers who like me,know the truth and protest about it all the time and they have come forward on alex jones radio shows and firemen in new york have stated as well in magazines,they they either get death threats to their familys when they DO talk to the media about what they saw and heard or that those familys have a site they go to and talk about thieir death threats they get and how the media wont report it.you dont want to know abouti because the truth scares you and you cant handle it like so many other cant which is pitiful.have fun talking to yourself,Im done with you.

Originally posted by Mr Parker
Blah...blah...blah...I won't read your post (actually I will I'll just pretend I didn't because I'm sneaky like that)...blah...blah...
(insert hypocritical statement here)
...blah...KharmaDog...blah...blah...blah...brainwashing...
blah...blah... nonsense, nonsense...blah...blah...Kharmadog
...blah...blah....Kharmadog...blah...blah...state "supposed" fact with no proof...blah...blah...blah...blah...blah...blah...blah...
blah...blah...blah...blah...Kharmadog...blah...blah...nonsense...blah
...blah...blah...blah...blah...blah...blah...blah...(insert smiley)...blah...blah...blah.