Actually, it was due to his arrogance that he lost. He had Obi-Wan beat, this is made apparent in the script and novelization (I'm not counting the movie since a lot of people have different perspectives), and had he not stood over Obi-Wan for a good twenty seconds taunting him, he'd have killed him.
Possibilities, possibilities. You know, had Kit completed that spin of his, and had Sidious still been in his saber lock with Mace, Kit would’ve killed Sidious! But that never happened, nor did Maul ever kill Kenobi.
Explain how a superior duo was getting pwned by Maul, but Kit Fisto and Anakin, a less coordinated duo won't get owned?
Do you understand? Qui-Gon Jinn > Kit Fisto, and TPM Kenobi > AOTC Anakin. So, why will Kit Fisto and Anakin win as a duo, when a more superior duo was getting their asses handed to them?
Because, as I stated, what possibly cost Qui-Gon his life was his age. Had he been faster and younger, he may have just been able to beat Maul. And Obi-Wan seemed to do fairly well against Maul, so if Anakin and Kit can work together, even for just a short amount of time, the two should come out victorious. But as I said earlier, I can see this duel turning out either way.
"The Sith Lord he battled with Obi - Wan was more than his equal in weapons training, and he had the advantage of being younger and stronger."
It also states, “Qui-Gon was nearing sixty; his youth was behind him and his strength was beginning to diminish”. Thus, perhaps if Qui-Gon was not held back by his old age, maybe he would have defeated Maul?
Notice that Maul was said to “have the advantage of being younger and stronger"
It was Maul being Qui-Gon's superior in lightsaber combat, and being stronger than Qui-Gon himself. Maul is physically stronger than Kit Fisto.
As stated above, Maul was stronger than Qui-Gon because he was younger; because of Qui-Gon’s old age, his strength was beginning to diminish. Now, Maul may be somewhat physically stronger than Kit, but not so much that Kit’d be at a major disadvantage.
That made no sense. Qui-Gon's more powerful, but Kit Fisto will beat him!
Kit Fisto is faster, younger, and has a faster sense of timing than Qui-Gon. Not only this, but his fighting style has awed Jedi Masters of the highest esteem (Obi and Mace). Might I also add the fact that Qui-Gon states in TPM that, although his apprentice was not yet as powerful as he was, he believed that someday he would surpass him. Add the fact that Kit surpassed Obi-Wan, and we have reason to assume that Kit should put up a great fight against Maul.
Actually, it doesn't show a thing. It shows that Maul didn't expect Kenobi to attack like a wild dog.
Even after this “anger driven assault”, it states that Obi-Wan and Maul were fighting somewhat evenly. Even as Maul finally regained the offensive, it mentions Obi being able to elude his antogonist’s efforts due to his speed.
And in your opinion, Kit Fisto would beat Yoda, Vader, Sidious, Inuyasha, Goku, Superman, and so on. So, your opinion is pretty much shit because you're such a fanboy.
Did you know, that apparently, Kit Fisto’s master during apprenticeship was Yoda?
Again, I'll just say: Actually, it was due to his arrogance that he lost. He had Obi-Wan beat, this is made apparent in the script and novelization (I'm not counting the movie since a lot of people have different perspectives), and had he not stood over Obi-Wan for a good twenty seconds taunting him, he'd have killed him.
And yet, Obi-Wan managed to defend himself throughout the majority of the duel to be able to finally make that comeback and slice Maul in two. Anyway, Maul’s arrogance could be all the more reason why he may lose this duel too.
Darth Maul > Obi-Wan on paper.
You're an idiot. Form I is not aggressive. F*cking Jedi Younglings use it. Juyo is more aggressive than Form I. Obi-Wan's form in TPM, Ataru, is more aggressive than Form I.
Well, in CD it states that Kit Fisto’s form was fierce, deadly, aggressive etc. However, because Kit’s fighting style was described to be so “unpredictable and irresistible” and unorthodox, it is reasonable to assume that Kit may have added his own unique saber style into his fighting form.
And Obi-Wan only fought better because he was attacking like a lunatic that just escaped from your basement (and I can't blame him, I would go crazy, too). When Qui-Gon tried to do that, he ended up like so:
Might I also point out that Qui-Gon was a master of Ataru. Ataru practitioners are at a great disadvantage if fighting in a small area. In TPM, Qui-Gon was killed by Darth Maul in a confined space. This could also contribute to the reason as to why Qui-Gon was defeated. And Qui-Gon was almost able to defeat Maul – in the book, it mentions how Maul was beginning to become worried by Qui-Gon’s ferocious assault, and that he had to resort to jumping away from him in order regain an advantage.
Subtitles: "Pwned".
I highly doubt Kit Fisto is going to give into his anger, and attack in complete and utter rage. He'll do what Qui-Gon did, which was attacking very aggressively, and dying.
Luckily, Form I’s simplicity is it’s strength. Kit should not need to go on an anger driven rage since his form is already about using strength anyway. Not to mention it also being described as aggressive, deadly, etc.
Yeah, because Form I is a basic form. It's not demanding, it's not advanced, it sucks. Which is why Kit Fisto mastered it, because he, like the form, sucks. "The basics of attack, parry, body target zones, and the practice drills called velocities are all here."
“It’s simplicity is its strength”. Form I may be the basic form, but it is a form that specializes against numerous different styles, due to its simplicity. Anyway, as stated above, It is likely, given how Kit’s fighting style was described in Cestus Deception, that Kit would have incorporated his own personalized fighting style into Shii-Cho.
Form I is the basic form, it's not special . . . unlike Juyo, which is the most demanding of all forms.
I find it special, considering that Kit has awed some of the highest level of Jedi Master’s with it.
I never said it was, you idiot. Here's where I first mentioned it:
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Originally posted by Advent
Second, in the actual script and novelization "QUI-GON is in a split second fighting the DARK LORD with a ferocity not seen before.", and the novel confirms it.
Do your spectacles need an examining? You'd better put them on, that's probably why you're wrong 10 out of 9 times (impossible, but you manage to do it anyways). I said the actual script says it, and the novel confirms it, I never said the novel exactly said that line.
Calm down. I was just a little dazzled with how you could gain access to the script. That’s all.
google.com
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Google it, perhaps? IMSDB.
Okay, thank you. I will look for the script straight away.
If you'd have read what I wrote, or got your spectacles fixed - you wouldn't have that problem.
I did read what you wrote I just didn’t think it was possible to gain access to TPM script, that’s all. But now I know. Cheers.
Because he's supposed to be a "motion blur", and have a "sense of timing faster than some bullshit x". If his sense of timing is so great, he would've timed that shit, and not have died. Your hyperbolic descriptions (and yes, they are hyperbole) don't make sense.
Unfortunately, no matter what, what is stated in Cestus Deception remains fact. Darth Maul was killed by a padawan, does that mean that he sucks? Likewise, Kit Fisto was killed by a SITH LORD, does that mean he sucks? Anyway, watch the scene again, and look at how fast Kit manages to move himself from the left of the screen to the right. I still can’t believe it with my own eyes!
Oh? If he has a sense of timing that good, he would be able to do it. If it is a "motion blur", he would be able to do it.
It states this in Cestus Deception, and in no way is their any reason to assume it is hyperbole. I find it ironic how you seem to be basing all of Kit’s abilities with how he managed to do against Darth Sidious.
Sadly, since these are all hyperbolic descriptions they are inadmissable.
Unfortunately for you, for however long they remain in Cestus Deception, these statements are fact. You won’t be able to convince me that they’re “hyperbole”.
Or maybe you just don't want it to move because Kit Fisto dies? It's working perfectly on my computer. Turn off your Anti-Fisto Firewall, it's protecting you from seeing anything against Kit.
Just a question; did you get that pic from the Maul vs Fisto thread? God I miss that thread!
Fluently? He moved as fluently as Roblio Darte, Master Tsui, and others did. Which, in actuality, was shit. Two seconds, and he moved "fluently"? No, all he did was clash sabers once, and die.
It was twice. Anyway, if you bother to watch the scene again, and manage not to keep your eyes closed, no matter how much you deny it, you will see what I mean.
You're right, it wasn't coincidence. It was a filler, and luck. Luck that Sidious went after Agen and Saesee first.
Is It luck that the script called for Kit to last longer than Agen and Saesee? Kit was meant to last longer than the other two, and that’s a fact.
