Here are something that i think that prooves a lot about this issue:
http://educate-yourself.org/cn/kirwan911videotranscript04apr07.shtml
Here are something that i think that prooves a lot about this issue:
http://educate-yourself.org/cn/kirwan911videotranscript04apr07.shtml
Originally posted by lord xyz
Possibly thermite was planted inside, that would explain the anomalies.
So, your admitting some sort of explosive or incendary was used?
Originally posted by lord xyz
But, that would melt the steel, and the only steel that melted was tiny bits which melt at about 200C or lower. Remember, a big chunk of the tower was falling, the only place for the rest of the tower to go was down or out. Instead of asking me these questions, ask a scientist, that's what the real truth seakers do. That's who the conspiracy theorists I trust do.
That's because most of the Steel evaporated, thermite cannot do that.
And, Steel does not melt at 200C, it melts at 1535 degrees Celsius.
Originally posted by J-Beowulf
Counter to Loose Change:
http://www.loosechangeguide.com/LooseChangeGuide.htmlOther random 9/11 Mythbuster websites:
http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/
http://911conspiracysmasher.blogspot.com/
http://www.debunking911.com/
http://www.911myths.com/I recommend that some of you "open-minded truth seekers" read some of these websites and the points they make. Sadly, though, I feel these sites will fall on deaf ears.
Yeah, does sites do a good job debunking theories from the 911 Truth movement, and the "Thermate/Super Thermite Theory", But I don't suppot Prof. Steven Jones
Theory or 911Truth.
It could be a number of things, by themselves or in combination. One reasonable explanation is a buildup of pressure caused by the compression of air between the floors as they pancaked, (Please read the link to explain the NIST / Pancaking issue) pushed debris out of the already broken windows and/or open vents. Another is falling debris like elevators or elevator parts/motors and/or columns free falling down the elevator shafts and slamming into lower floors creating debris. In a sense the floors are large plungers and the towers are just one big Syringe during the collapse.
http://www.debunking911.com/overp.htm
Do you honestly supprt the notion that "Compressed Air" sent Girders and a 22 ton piece of the outer wall flying across 100 feet?
Nevermind that the building was not even pressured rised, and if it was would'nt most of the pressure have desipated due to the big hole made by hole made by the plane.
Originally posted by Emperor AshtarI'm not admitting anything. 😕
So, your admitting some sort of explosive or incendary was used?
Originally posted by Emperor AshtarTiny parts of steel does, I learnt that from a website debunking 9/11 myths.
That's because most of the Steel evaporated, thermite cannot do that.
And, Steel does not melt at 200C, it melts at 1535 degrees Celsius.
Originally posted by Emperor AshtarThermite is a possibilty. I never said it was, or the official story was wrong. ****ing Godzilla is a possibilty, but does that mean the official story is wrong, or Godzilla knocked down the twin towers? No.
You just claimed that Thermite was possibly the culprit, so what exactly did you men by that?And, do you mean Steel weakens at 200C?
No, small amounts of steel melts at lower temperatures.
Originally posted by Violent K
How am I being afraid of the truth? Being denial by bullshits?You did not make this thread, but to gain attention, you, like other 9-11 conspirators spew bullshit.
BUSH DID THIS. BUSH DID THAT. EXPLOSIVES HAPPENED THIS. MISSILES THAT. MISSILES THIS.
Why the hell should I listen to you guys? All you guys is do spew bullshit. I bet your like NuclearWinter, spend 24/7 in your basement, still living with your mother, and jobless.
By the way: Learn English. English Language is my =THIRD= Language yet, I bet I can speak/type better English than you.
typical post of someone afraid of the truth. 🙄
Originally posted by lord xyz
I ignored Willie Rodriguez? You haven't brought him up. Don't confuse my criticism of your retarded theories and moronic behaviour with my personal opinion.My opinion is there is a conspiracy between the government and the Bin Ladens, but you are wrong in what you say, misinformed, and spam up this place. I admire you want to know the truth, but rush into things and get things horribly wrong because you can't be bothered to see what someone apposing you thinks, nor are you mature when it comes to criticism. That is why you are seen as a fool and why people laugh at you. (You as in conspiracy theorists.)
Can someone quote this, so he shall read it? I feel he should see it.
I brought him up on that last thread of yours but with your reading and memory comprehension problems you have its understandable why you dont remember.they're not retarded theorys kid,they're facts,you know that but your just too pig headed to admit it when you've been proven wrong in a debate.your the spammer,you just come on try and stir up shit with people all the time.your hysterical because you call yourself mature yet you constantly go around insulting people all the time if they dont agree with you.Like I could care less what idiots like you think.You make me laugh constantly with your moronic logic that the towers caused the buildings to collapse.the logic people on this forum like winter and deano laugh at you all the time kid because unlike grand you dont have any logic. 😆 Have fun talking to yourself kid,putting you back on ignore again,I dont waste time with kids who have horrible memory and reading comprehension problems like you. 😆
Originally posted by J-Beowulf
Counter to Loose Change:
http://www.loosechangeguide.com/LooseChangeGuide.htmlOther random 9/11 Mythbuster websites:
http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/
http://911conspiracysmasher.blogspot.com/
http://www.debunking911.com/
http://www.911myths.com/I recommend that some of you "open-minded truth seekers" read some of these websites and the points they make. Sadly, though, I feel these sites will fall on deaf ears.
I HAVE looked at that screw loose change video and like Deano said not too long ago-its bullshit.Its full of lies,distortions and omissions so Im sure those others you showed are no different but I'll look at them.Unlike
XYZ,I dont back down from a challenge when someone gives me something that isnt in agreement with me.dont expect an immediate reply from me on it though."I" actually investigate something when a challenge is given to me on something like this.
Like i said,I dont back down from a challenge like this but I got one for you as well.I suggest you read these books written by this author named David Ray Griffin.two of them you can find at the library.they are called-The New Pearl Harbour.Disturbing questions about the Bush administration and 9-11. the other is-The 9-11 commission Report.Omissions and Distortions.Both of those you can find at the library.
He shreads to pieces in those two books the lies of the governments version.He also has a new book out that I have no doubt does the same thing which is called Debunking the Debunking.since those other two books proved the lies of the government version,I am sure this new book does as well.It should be out in the librarys and in bookstores as well right now.its brand new so it might be hard to come by though.
Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
Yeah, does sites do a good job debunking theories from the 911 Truth movement, and the "Thermate/Super Thermite Theory", But I don't suppot Prof. Steven Jones
Theory or 911Truth.http://www.debunking911.com/overp.htm
Do you honestly supprt the notion that "Compressed Air" sent Girders and a 22 ton piece of the outer wall flying across 100 feet?
Nevermind that the building was not even pressured rised, and if it was would'nt most of the pressure have desipated due to the big hole made by hole made by the plane.
anybody who would believe a fairy tale like that is just a complete idiot.
Originally posted by bakerboySome of the footage in that film is in Loose Change, and if you watch the Screw Loose Change video, you will see that those eyewitness accounts are out of context, and don't support what they're saying anyway.
Here are something that i think that prooves a lot about this issue:http://educate-yourself.org/cn/kirwan911videotranscript04apr07.shtml
The firefighter who said "It went, boom boom boom boom boom boom boom, as if there were detonators, like a controlled demolition." his hand goes top to bottom, controlled demolition explosives go bottom to top, so that almost proves there weren't detonators.
Originally posted by lord xyz
Thermite is a possibilty. I never said it was, or the official story was wrong. ****ing Godzilla is a possibilty, but does that mean the official story is wrong, or Godzilla knocked down the twin towers? No.
[i]Originally posted by lord xyzNo, small amounts of steel melts at lower temperatures.
Source?
Originally posted by bakerboy
Here are something that i think that prooves a lot about this issue:http://educate-yourself.org/cn/kirwan911videotranscript04apr07.shtml
yeah its pretty obvious from thse two videos that it was an inside job.Its so obvious from looking at those videos that explosives indeed were used in the towers.Thats what always got me interested in the case was the fact that so many demolition experts were bothered by the governments explanation that the towers collapse was caused by the jet airliner.Like that engineer of the towers said in the first link on that 18 minute video,it was designed to take the hit of a 707 which is an even heavier jet than the two that hit the towers.I mean here he is saying that it could have taken hits from MULTILPLE jet airliners.Yeah from looking at those videos its obvious that it was an inside job and explosives were used.
I would advise not watching Screw Loose Change.It has SOME truths to it but its mostly bullshit with lies,distortions and omissions.The other thing that proves that explosives were used is that one of the workers there-a janitor named Willie Rodriguez.Thankfully he was an hour late for work that day other wise he would have normally at that time have been up on like the 40th floor at that time he says.But because he was late for work,he was only on the 10th floor at the time when the jet airliner hit the first tower and just seconds BEFORE the plane hit,he heard explosions going off in the BASEMENT and he pulled a coworker out of the elevater shaft who was coming from the basement who was on fire.He asked him what happened and he said there were explosions going on in the basement.I repeat-basement seconds before the first plane hit.And he then heard a loud crash several storys above him seonds later which of course was the jet airliner.
At that time he didnt know of course that it was a jet airliner.The government obviously did not count on Willie Rodriguez surviving the tragedy and being late for work that day because his story is the smoking gun that proves bombs were set off.Tha mainstream media has ignored his story though and has never reported it though which has really disturbed him especially since when he goes overseas to tell his story,overseas they have reported his story.Not surprising though that they dont report it here in the states since the mainstream medis is controlled by the corporate elite.
Originally posted by lord xyz
I'm not having either, like I said.
Okay, so what do you believe brought down the towers becuse your confusing me. You said Thermite was possible, but that would mean control demolition. Yet, you constantly assert that the notion of an inside job is out of the question. So, which argument do you support?
Originally posted by Emperor AshtarWhat? No. I'm saying it's possible Thermite is used, but a controlled demoliton (which isn't Thermite) couldn't have happened because it looks nothing like a controlled demolition (provided you aren't retarded). I wasn't trying to assert it was Thermite or anything, I was just saying they could've been brought down by Thermite. I shouldn't have confused you, I was being straight foreward.
Okay, so what do you believe brought down the towers becuse your confusing me. You said Thermite was possible, but that would mean control demolition. Yet, you constantly assert that the notion of an inside job is out of the question. So, which argument do you support?
I believe the plane brought down the tower, it's possible Thermite was used, as that does explain the anomalies, but our best guess is the plane alone (until evidence against it is found). Evidence as in a credible source saying it doesn't make sense, not some nut on the internet.