Semptember the 11th

Started by Emperor Ashtar98 pages

Originally posted by Darth Kreiger
Reading Comprehension is your friend, could you stop posting 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 into every post?

He said you act like the Christians(Catholics) who call every other religion Heretics for not believing what they believe. You do that, "Your living in a Fantasy World 😆 😆 😆 "
"Lolz, these Sheep arn't worth dealing with, yet I still come back and post over and over again"

Because you ignore facts, despite posting 200 smokiong guns. you post an article in popular mechanics that :doesn't even refute them, has no source,bashes people, and lies.

You have no facts, so far I've quoted: newspapers, news reports, and the official investigation, plus polls.

You respond that polls lie, and conspiracy theorist are supposedly crazy?

Your only source is a refuted article, and wikipedia. 😆

Originally posted by David Tsarion
COVER-UP

9/11 - Ari Fleischer claims that Bush received no warnings about the attacks (White House), May '02 - Fleischer confirms that Bush was told by CIA a month before attacks about possibility of OBL terrorists hijacking planes in the US. (SF Gate)

President Bush (White House)
Gen. Richard Myers (DoD) Condoleezza Rice (CBS) Sect. Mineta and some NORAD officials all deny anybody was aware of the idea that terrorists would use airplanes as weapons (Seattle Post), 1999 - NORAD conducted exercises simulating hijacked airliners used as weapons. (USA Today)

Sept 22 - 'Airline Transportation Stabilization Act' becomes law which if 9/11 victim's families except, they can't sue airlines or US gov't for any reason. (Guardian, LA Times)

Sept 26 - Mayor Rudolph Giuliani bans all video and photography at Ground Zero. (Boston Globe)

Nov '01 - Bush signs Executive Order 13233 which limits public access to presidential records. (Boston Globe, NS Archives) Mar '03 - Bush signs Executive Order 13292 allowing for a broad range of documents to be kept secret for up to 25 years and gives classification powers to the Vice President. (Boston Globe, National Review) The number of documents classified by the Bush administration increased by over 50 percent since 2001 (Boston Globe) and they have classified more records in their first 2 years than President Clinton's last four years. (US News) Ex-Nixon legal aide says Bush Admin is the most secretive ever. (Telegraph)

Jan '02 - Steel from the WTC is shipped to China and India for recycling which has angered investigators, engineers and victim's families who say the steel could hold vital clues about why the towers collapsed and GPS trackers were installed on trucks hauling the 'highly sensitive' steel scraps away to be melted. (USA Today, China.org, ACSS)

Jan '02 - Fire Engineering says official WTC investigation is a 'half-baked farce' that may already have been 'commandeered by political forces' whose primary interests lie 'far afield of full disclosure.' (Fire Engineering)

March '02 - Pentagon security photos of crash are released, but Pentagon says gov't didn't 'officially' release them. (Washington Post)

May '02 - Bush Administration oppose a 9/11 investigation. (CBS)

June '02 - Records of 9/11 response not for public, New York City says. (NY Times)

Sept '02 - American Airlines continues to gag all employees from talking about Sept 11 hijackings. (WorldNetDaily)

Sept '02 - Bush admin denies lawmakers investigating 9/11 permission to reveal whether the president or White House staff received warning of potential terrorist attacks against US, including plans by al Qaida linked terrorists to use hijacked planes as weapons. (UPI)

Nov '02 - Bush names former National Security advisor and Unocal consultant Henry Kissinger to head 9/11 investigations. (CNN, CBS)

Dec '02 - WTC surveillance tapes and maintenance logs are among the missing evidence as investigators try to figure out why the WTC collapsed. (Ft Wayne Sentinel)

Dec '02 - Bush names Homeland Security Project Co-Chair who has business link to husband of OBL's sister to head 9/11 panel. (Fortune)

Jan '03 - 9/11 investigations get only a $3 million budget and 16 month time frame compared to the over $40 million spent on the 5-year investigation of the Clintons. (Washington Times, Washington Post)

May '03 - White House refuses to release 900-page Sept. 11 congressional report. (Miami Herald)

July '03 - 9/11 panel criticizes Defense, Justice dept's for not cooperating fully and CIA, FBI for intimidating witnesses. (ABC, Guardian)

July '03 - White House, CIA kept key portions of 9/11 report classified dealing with Saudi Arabia and reject Saudi requests to declassify. (Washington Post)

Jan '04 - 9/11 Panel has to interview two of it's own members about attacks. (UPI)

Jan '04 - Bush and Speaker Hastert oppose granting more time for 9/11 Panel. (Washington Post)

April '04 - Bush admin gags FBI translator Sibel Edmonds from speaking to 9/11 Panel about attack foreknowledge. (Independent-UK)

April '04 - Bush, Cheney meet together behind closed doors with 9/11 Panel without recorders, stenographer, or being under oath. (CNN)

FAA manager mangled, cut, and destroyed 9/11 tapes. (Washington Post)

President Bush's phone logs on 9/11 don't exist. (NY Daily News)

June '04 - 9/11 tapes reveal ground personnel covered-up attack response, kept things 'hush-hush.' (New York Observer)

July '04 - Almost 3 years after 9/11, technology only now exists to enable cell phones to work on airplanes at flying altitudes. (USA Today, New York Press)

9/11 report shows much of common wisdom about 9/11 was wrong. (Straights Times)

Oct '04 - NORAD takes their 9/11 response timeline off website (NORAD) after US Senator accuses them and FAA of lying. (Star Tribune)

Oct '04 - Inquiry begins about unreleased 9/11 report about civilian, military response timeline and will stay unreleased until after elections. (NY Times)

Alleged 9/11 hijacker rented room from FBI informant, FBI covered fact up. (Village Voice)

Some in 9/11 panel concluded the Pentagon may have lied about how they first reacted to the 9/11 attacks and debated referring the matter to the Justice Dept for a criminal investigation. (Washington Post)

Box cutters weren't allowed pre-9/11 by airlines industry. (9/11 Panel, CBS)

This is my favorite post of Davids because it backs up everything I have been saying all along and david has listed other sources besides Jones infowars site.USA TODAY themselves and CHINA.org go on to say what I said earlier that that the steel from the WTC is shipped off to china and India for recycling.distruction of evidence.

fire engennering magazine goes on to say the 9-11 commission is a half baked farce.

CBS even says that the Bush administration opposses a 9-11 commission.

CNN announces Bush heads Kissinger of all people to investigate 9-11.Kissinger is an even more corrupt man than Bush is.There have been countless articles written over the years of the travestys that Kissinger committed unde Nixion.NIXON,BUSH,KISSINGER,they all sleep in bed together and their the equivilant of hitler.

Guardian magazine goes on to report FBI AND CIA intimidated witnesses.thats a specialty the CIA and FBI have been experts at for decades. 🙄

again I fail to see how these two sheep after I already told them about FDR allowing japenese to attack pearl harbour,that this would be anything different despite the millions of americans in agreement about it. 🙄 these two obviously are ignorant about government so they are just not worth it for me anymore.

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
And it's funny that Both [B]FEMA and NSIT Have said a plane was not the cause. [/B]

yep.

Originally posted by David Tsarion
DECOYING, STAND DOWN

Sept 9 - NORAD conducts operation 'Northern Vigilance,' planned months in advance, which deploys fighter jets to Alaskan region. (NORAD, Toronto Star)

9/11 - Three F-16 jetfighters from Andrews AFB, 15 miles from Pentagon, are flown 180 miles away for training mission in the morning. (Aviation Week)

9/11 - Andrews AFB, home to DC Air National Guard and Air Force 1 & 2, had no jetfighters on alert. (Newsday, USA Today)

9/11 - US intel agency planned exercise in the morning to simulate plane crash into government building. (Boston Globe, USA Today)

9/11 - NORAD was running war game called 'Vigilant Guardian' in which the commander in charge thought first hijacking was "part of the exercise." (Aviation Week, NY Observer)

9/11 - FAA bans takeoffs at 9:26 am for all civilian, military, or law enforcement aircraft (FAA, Time)

9/11 - Shoot-down authorization not communicated to NORAD until 28 minutes after Flight 93 crashed. (9/11 Panel, Seattle Post)

Feb '05 - Donald Rumsfeld, Gen. Myers confirm there were total of four wargames on 9/11 from Rep. McKinney questioning. (C-SPAN)

WTC ATTACK

Jan '01 - Frank De Martini, deceased Mgr of WTC Construction & Project Mgmt, says in documentary before 9/11 that he believes WTC towers could sustain multiple hits from large jetliners, comparing it to poking a pencil through mosquito netting. (WTC-A Modern Marvel, DVD Talk)

July '01 - WTC landlord leased the entire WTC complex 6 six weeks before attacks. (CBS, Washington Times)

Twin Towers were hated, poorly designed money-losers subsides by the State and weren't torn down before because of expensive asbestos removal in which 9/11 benefited the owners by efficiently destroying the complex in a way that they didn't have to pay for any of it. (Baltimore Sun, Salon, Front Page)

Sept 6 - WTC officials recently took steps to secure towers against aerial attacks by installing bulletproof windows and fireproof doors in the 22nd-floor computer command center (Newsday)

Two week heightened security alert at WTC is lifted and bomb-sniffing dogs are abruptly removed days before 9/11. (Newsday)

Occupant in WTC says weeks before attacks they had "unusual" amount of evacuations from WTC and says he thinks "they had an inkling something was going on." (People)

9/11 - A Fiduciary Trust CEO from the South WTC is invited to early morning charity event at Offutt AFB hosted by billionaire Warren Buffett and is escorted to TV by military officers and sees 2nd plane crash into her offices. (Forbes, SF Business Times)

9/11 - A missile was reportedly launched from the Woolworth Building near the WTC. (NIST, WNBC, NY Daily)

9/11 - Rudy Giuliani says he was told South WTC was going to collapse. (ABC video)

Company hired to help clean up Ground Zero is control demolition experts, Controlled Demolition Inc. (Waste Age)

Preliminary tests show steel quality did not contribute to twin towers' collapse. (Boston Globe, Pittsburg Live)

Oct '04 - Fire in 56-story Venezuelan skyscraper spreads over 26 floors and burns for over 17 hours, but does not collapse. (CBS)

WTC Ground Zero workers claim they helped FBI find 3 of the 4 black boxes from planes that struck WTC, contradicting official accounts that none were found. (Philadelphia Daily News)

Bombs, flashes, other explosions

EMT Jeff Birnbaum near the South Tower says he heard an eerie high-pitched noise and a 'popping sound' then an explosion before the top of the tower leaned toward him and started coming down. (CEE News)

Firefighter Louie Cacchioli in elevator going to 24th floor hears a bomb go off and thinks bombs were set in the building. (People)

Firefighter Edward Cachia says the South Tower gave at a lower floor then where the plane hit because they thought there was internal explosions going off from hearing successions of 'boom, boom, boom, boom' before the tower came down. (NY Times)

Fire Captain Karin Deshore says there was orange and red flashes followed by explosions that were getting bigger going both up and down and then all around the WTC 2. (SF Gate)

Tom Elliott on 67th floor floor in WTC 2 felt explosion below him as plane hit, firemen going up told him of an explosion near 60th floor. (CS Monitor)

Commissioner Stephen Gregory along with a Lieutenant Evangelista from Ladder 146 say they both saw multiple flashes coming from the lower level of the WTC 2 right before it collapsed and mentions the flashes they saw are like what you'd see when they 'blow up a building.' (NY Times)

Nadine Keller from her balcony in Soho, NY says she 'heard the bomb' before she saw the buildings collapse. (BBC)

EMT Joseph Lovero reports hearing 'additional explosions' to dispatcher. (WNBC)

Edmund McNally phoned his wife from 97th floor of WTC 2 following the plane crash, says he heard explosions below him. (NY Times)

Mike Pecoraro and co-worker hear a loud explosion in WTC 1 basement and believes a bomb went off after seeing major damage to the basement floors. (Chief Engineer)

Janitor William Rodriguez in WTC 1 basement hears explosion below him, then the plane crash above him seconds later, then saw severely burnt man come out of basement elevator. (CNN)

Teresa Veliz on the 47th floor of the WTC 1 feels the building shake again more violently then the shaking from the 1st crash and hears explosions going off everywhere inside the building and also hears explosions when she was outside that she was convinced bombs were 'planted all over the place' and that someone was 'sitting at a control panel pushing detonator buttons.' (September 11: An Oral History)

Kim White from 80th floor of WTC 1 hears an explosion near the 74th floor. (People|2)

Witnesses reported hearing another explosion just before WTC 1 collapse, police said collapse looked almost like a 'planned implosion' designed to 'catch bystanders watching from the street.' (Guardian)

Third explosion reported at WTC 2 and part of the tower collapses afterward. (TCM News, TCM News)

Group of firemen discussing the collapse of WTC 2 said how each floor was pooping out as by being 'detonated' as if 'they had planned to take down a building'. (9/11 - The Filmmakers' Edit)

A member of the FDNY says when trying to get some people out that there was 'secondary explosions' and then subsequent collapses. (11 News)

A FDNY Firefighter says as he was getting his gear on and making his way to the stairway, there was a 'heavy duty explosion'. (CBS)

MSNBC Reporter Ann Thompson says at 10:30 when she got outside the building she heard a 'second explosion' and 'another rumble' then ran inside for cover when a fire marshal said they had to leave because if there was a third explosion the building might not last. (MSNBC)

NBC's Pat Dawson reports that the chief of safety of the FDNY told him that he received word of another bomb going off and when he tried to get his men out he said that there was another explosion which took place and thinks there were devices that were planted in the building. (NBC)

Eyewitness speaking in a studio interview says he was about five blocks away when he heard three explosions and turned around to see the building he just got out of collapse. (Studio interview)

An injured witness to one of the towers collapsing said it sounded like 'gunfire' and then all of a sudden he heard 'three big explosions'. (News interview)

NBC's Rick Sanchez reports that police have evacuated an area around the WTC because of a 'suspicious device' thought to be a bomb and say they think a van with explosives in it went off inside the WTC and fear that bombs have been planted in, or nearby the buildings. (MSNBC)

BBC's Stephen Evans reports there was a big explosion from 'much, much lower' in the WTC from where the plane crashed. (BBC)

Still MORE names of firefighters David has listed that darth and LMM asked for with major news sources quoting firemen saying they heard EXPLOSIONS going off.you give them the names of all these firemen they ask for and they still live in denial about it.how pathetic. its not just alex jones saying this.None of these sources came from alex jones.Jones obviously isnt the crackpot that LMM AND DARTH want to believe he is. 🙄 again I thought it was hilarious the other day when on his radio show the other day Jones was was making fun of people like LMM AND DARTH saying things like-stop being a bunch of monkeys and face up to this you ignoratn doubters. 😆 Jones is pretty candid in his thoughts about people like them but it is so true what he says about them. 😆

Originally posted by Mr Parker
Still MORE names of firefighters David has listed that darth and LMM asked for with major news sources quoting firemen saying they heard EXPLOSIONS going off.you give them the names of all these firemen they ask for and they still live in denial about it.how pathetic.

Lets not forget the sources are from newspapers, lik:newsday,the sun,new york times, etc...

But I bet they will argue those papers are wrong.

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
Lets not forget the sources are from newspapers, lik:newsday,the sun,new york times, etc...

But I bet they will argue those papers are wrong.

oh yeah thats a given. 😄

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
And it's funny that Both [B]FEMA and NSIT Have said a plane was not the cause. [/B]

This is getting hilarious. So, now you're saying that a plane crashing into the building had absolutely nothing to do with the collapse of the building. You're now going to tell me that a plane striking a building at full speed could not bring down a skyscraper under any circumstances.

I also love how the firefighters interview was a short ten second clip where their comments were taken completely out of context. You see see by the tone of their voices that none of them believe that bombs caused the World Trade Center collapse, but that they are trying to find an analogy to describe it.

Conspiracy Quote: “I saw a flash flash flash [at] the lower level of the building. You know like when they demolish a building?”--Assistant Fire Commissioner Stephen Gregory

Actual Quote: I know I was with an officer from Ladder 146, a Lieutenant Evangelista, who ultimately called me up a couple of days later just to find out how I was. We both for whatever reason -- again, I don't know how valid this is with everything that was going on at that particular point in time, but for some reason I thought that when I looked in the direction of the Trade Center before it came down, before No. 2 came down, that I saw low-leve] flashes. In my conversation with Lieutenant Evangelista, never mentioning this to him, he questioned me and asked me if I saw low-level flashes in front of the building, and I agreed with him because I thought -- at that time I didn't know what it was. I mean, it could have been as a result of the building collapsing, things exploding, but I saw a flash flash flash and then it looked like the building came down.

Conspiracy Quote: “ we heard explosions coming from building two, the south tower. It seemed like it took forever, but there were about ten explosions. . . . We then realized the building started to come down.” -- Firefighter Craig Carlsen

Acutal Quote: guess about three minutes later you just heard explosions coming from building two, the south tower. It seemed like it took forever, but there were about ten explosions. At the time I didn't realize what it was. We realized later after talking and finding out that it was the floors collapsing to where the plane had hit.

Conspiracy Quote: “I took a quick glance at the building and while I didn't see it falling, I saw a large section of it blasting out, which led me to believe it was just an explosion.” -- Captain Jay Swithers

Actual Quote: When I was giving her the oxygen, setting up the tank, you could hear a loud rumble. Somebody said run for your life. I turned to see who was yelling "run".

At that point I looked back and most of the people who were triaged in that area with the triage tags on them got up and ran. I took a quick glance at the building and while I didn't see it falling, I saw a large section of it blasting out, which led me to believe it was just an explosion. I thought it was a secondary device, but I knew that we had to go.

But one thing that did happen was an ambulance pulled up which was very clean. So I assumed that the vehicle had not been in the - what I thought was an explosion at the time, but was the first collapse.

Conpiracy Quote: “I know 9-11 was an inside job. The police know it’s an inside job; and the firemen know it too”, said Isaac.

"there were definitely bombs in those buildings,” Isaac added that “many other firemen know there were bombs in the buildings, but they’re afraid for their jobs to admit it because the ‘higher-ups’ forbid discussion of this fact.” --Auxiliary Lieutenant Fireman Paul Isaac.

Acutal Quote: never quoted. There is no public record other than conspiracy websites that use this quote. No video recording or otherwise.

The quotes come through completely different when the full quote is used. Now that I've taken away your "firsthand" public record accounts, now take away their credibility.

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
Lets not forget the sources are from newspapers, lik:newsday,the sun,new york times, etc...

But I bet they will argue those papers are wrong.

Most of those links in the 200 Smoking Guns show "story not found."

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
Because you ignore facts, despite posting 200 smokiong guns. you post an article in popular mechanics that :doesn't even refute them, has no source,bashes people, and lies.

You have no facts, so far I've quoted: newspapers, news reports, and the official investigation, plus polls.

You respond that polls lie, and conspiracy theorist are supposedly crazy?

Your only source is a refuted article, and wikipedia. 😆

yep he sure does have reading comprehension problems.LOL.He onlY addresses parts of posts and doesnt even bother to address other points you bring up in a paragraph.So true,so true,.you give him facts and he ignores them and says they're not true. 😄

[QUOTE=7123239]Originally posted by David Tsarion
[B]well bush talks bout the New World Order too, and he's really a lunatic 😄

Indeed.great point.Bush does indeed talk about The New World Order as well and is indeed a lunatic. 😄 and unlike Jones,he's also a dangerous and evil one.

Originally posted by David Tsarion
I'm baffled !! i mean WOW !! seriously and there was me thinking we have a discussion about something..
well looks like another fruitcake dodged some serious questions.. tho i understand it to an extend, your whole theory is based on government lies, media spin and funny assumption plus straight up scientific ignorance from your side.
so of course you come to the point were you cant answer the questions rational and in a serious manner so instead you try the old you are all looneys without any point whatsoever thats why i refuse engaging in discussion anymore, move.. also known as the famous chickeninPinkTuTuJump

call me an optimist but i still think the seed got planted and with time it will grow, eventually

excuse me ? what an MASSIVE ASSUMPTION from your side the funny thing is, if you would have BOTHERED to actually click on the link you would have noticed that it does NOT link to other ''conspiracy'' sites but to NBC; CNN,BBC, FOX; Washington post, NY times, Time magazine, San Fran chronicle, observer you named it..
thats right dude, all your oh so accurate mainstream media but then that clearly contradicts your funny view of conspiracy sites always link to other conspiracy sites.. doesn't it ?

lections of a discussion with good ol' Tsarion:

Lec 1; always check the links provided by the person you argue with - otherwise it easely leads to you making yourself look like an utter fool..

Lec2; if you cant answer questions, dont ignore them and hope to overplay this little fact with acting all funny and throwing assumption all over the place in order to justify your retreat - due lack of knowledge on the subject you claimed to have studied..

Lec3: making wild generalization such as ALL conspiracy theoriest are ---------- makes you again look like someone quiet ignorant.. just my opinion of course..
i still have love for you like i have love for all of humanity.

people who think for themselves and who have some love for each other are needed.. ah yea and you need to wake up dude, its peopz like you that keep us down not the elite.. they wouldnt have any power if we wouldn't give it to them..

PS:
http://www.prisonplanet.com/northwoods.pdf
DECLASSIFIED US DOCUMENTS can you understand that ?
do those 3 words come through to you ?

ahhh thats right, i forgot you're into labels not information, my bad sorry maybe the DECLASSIFIED US DOCUMENTS gain more credibility when the name of the link is not associated with alex jones or any other ''Conspiracy'' RESEARCHER
so here ya go
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods

! [B]WAIT !

in case wiki isnt good enough either, then go there:
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/news/20010430/doc1.pdf

About the National Security Archive

An independent non-governmental research institute and library located at The George Washington University, the Archive collects and publishes declassified documents obtained through the Freedom of Information Act. The Archive also serves as a repository of government records on a wide range of topics pertaining to the national security, foreign, intelligence, and economic policies of the United States. The Archive won the 1999 George Polk Award, one of U.S. journalism's most prestigious prizes, for-in the words of the citation-"piercing the self-serving veils of government secrecy, guiding journalists in the search for the truth and informing us all."

The Archive obtains its materials through a variety of methods, including the Freedom of Information act, Mandatory Declassification Review, presidential paper collections, congressional records, and court testimony. (!!!!)
(tell me is that ''CLEAN'' enough for you ?)

Archive staff members systematically track U.S. government agencies and federal records repositories for documents that either have never been released before, or that help to shed light on the decision-making process of the U.S. government and provide the historical context underlying those decisions.

The Archive regularly publishes portions of its collections on microfiche, the World Wide Web, CD-Rom, and in books. The Washington Journalism Review called these publications, collectively totaling more than 500,000 pages, "a state-of-the-art index to history." The Archive's World Wide Web site, www.nsarchive.org, has won numerous awards including USA Today's "Hot Site" designation.

stick around a while and just look how many declassified documents are listed there..
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/index.html

who knows ? maybe you even read one or two..
its just YOU and documents declassified by your Own government.. [/B]

great post as usual david. 👆 yeah pretty funny how he claimed that the links linked ot other conspiracy sites when they ACTUALLY linked to NBC,CNN FOX,ect. 😄

yeah thats why I stopped discussing it with them as well,they ignore facts and you made all those gret points in your long posts you made there and like you said,they come to a point where they cant answer any of your points in a serious and rational matter and they just go on to evade you and call you ignorant idiots,ect ect.Thats why I have stopped wasting my time these frightened children as well.They really need to go to the library and check out some book about the Bushs,their ignorance on the Bush family and how corrupted they are and how the government operates, astounds me.

[QUOTE=7131115]Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
[B]Right, the new york times, FEMA, NSIT, Firemen who were there, Structural enegineers are third rate.

yep,according to HIS logic,they are. 😆

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
Fire proof or not, no steel building has ever fell due to fire before, unless your telling me the WTC was the only building that wasn't sprayed properly. Tsarion gave you a list, and you just nitpick things on it, man your delusional.

you've noticed that about him as well huh? 😄

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
Doesn't matter, the official investigation from FEMA and NSIT ( The people who explained why the tower fell) concluded the building did not fall as a result of the plane. those are the experts who side with you, they work for the government of the united states.

What proof do you have that they're wrong beside your own word?

obviously none. 😄

Originally posted by Evil Dead
I admire this thread. good show king of spades, good show.

the theory offered is no more far-fetched than that of any other conspiracy theorist. You people are like Christians who are agast that people refuse to acknowledge their god.......yet they themselves refuse to acknowledge any of the hundreds of other gods of different cultures, past and present. Isn't it ironic.

Excellent post.

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
Right, if their into conspiracies, their christian. 😆 What a joke that post was.

"are like Christians who are agast that people refuse to acknowledge their god.......yet they themselves refuse to acknowledge any of the hundreds of other gods of different cultures, past and present."

How could you so misunderstand that? Did you miss the " are like"? That is a simile.

Originally posted by Mr Parker
yep he sure does have reading comprehension problems.LOL.He onlY addresses parts of posts and doesnt even bother to address other points you bring up in a paragraph.So true,so true,.you give him facts and he ignores them and says they're not true. 😄

That wouldn't be a comprehension problem. That would be a communication problem. A comprehension problem is experienced when one cannot glean even the remotest clue of what they are reading. That happens alot here.

Originally posted by KharmaDog

"[b]are like Christians who are agast that people refuse to acknowledge their god.......yet they themselves refuse to acknowledge any of the hundreds of other gods of different cultures, past and present."

How could you so misunderstand that? Did you miss the " are like"? That is a simile.

[/B]

yawn

Yes, excellent response Ashtar, avoid answering a simple question regarding the fact that you completely missed the point of what another member was saying and post a smilie.

By the way, you never explained as to what you think actually cause the destruction of the twin towers. Are you ready to answer that question yet?

Originally posted by KharmaDog
Yes, excellent response Ashtar, avoid answering a simple question regarding the fact that you completely missed the point of what another member was saying and post a smilie.

By the way, you never explained as to what you think actually cause the destruction of the twin towers. Are you ready to answer that question yet?

Nah, no point debating a someone like you.

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
Nah, no point debating a someone like you.

By this statement one has to believe that you mean that there is no point in you debating with someone who has a competent grasp of the english language and who deftly refutes many of your weak arguments? Or do you mean no point in embarrassing yourself?

Excellent avoidance technique. (sarcasm) Cowardly, though. (not sarcasm)

Originally posted by KharmaDog
By this statement one has to believe that you mean that there is no point in you debating with someone who has a competent grasp of the english language and who deftly refutes many of your weak arguments? Or do you mean no point in embarrassing yourself?

Excellent avoidance technique. (sarcasm) Cowardly, though. (not sarcasm)


No, there's no point debating someone, who doesn't state any facts. instead repeats a the official story and when one puts a counter claim he simple states they are wrong without elaborating why.

Simply resorts to bashing, and making ASSumptions ( like bombs), and strawmans all the time. your post are equivalent to garbage, you only insult people and critique grammer.most likely to mske yourself feel better, how lame.