Semptember the 11th

Originally posted by Bat Dude
I don't have huge knowledge on the subject (and most of this has been posted before), but:

-How can fire destroy a steel skyscraper? It didn't before the attacks, and it hasn't since the attacks...

-How could the grass at the Pentagon have been in perfect condition when a commercial plane supposedly flew through the base of the Pentagon?

-How come they never found remains of the people on said commercial flight, and how come they never found any evidence to support that a plane of its size had flown into the Pentagon? They found a 3 foot engine, but the plane they are claiming did it needs a WAY bigger engine...

-How come the major news stations continuously played the same footage over and over again, while neglecting other footage, such as the collapse of Building 7? (which has been compared to a "demolition"😉

-Why did President Bush claim to have seen the plane go into the first tower while waiting to go into the classroom, when such footage was not even known to have existed until several hours after the towers collapsed?

point 1:...for a start...it wasn't just a fire...it had an impact of a 200+ ton airliner crashing into it at 400+ mph...the forces exerted by the impact are collosal

point 1 again: there have actually been many examples where building both similar in construction to the WTC have been destroyed solely by fire...i posted several of them earlier in this thread

point 2:

yep....definitely looks like the grass is unscathed there doesn't it?

point 3: i posted testimony of an aircraft engineer earlier in the thread which disputes your claim

point 4: i remember watching it many times and it was recorded from many angles and widely reported at the time...although it was less dramatic and was alot later than the twin towers as well

i notice nobody questions the collapse of the marriot hotel from damage from the WTC collapse though

point 5: Bush is an idiot and can't tell the difference between the first plane and the second

...or is that just the cover-up?

YouTube video

Originally posted by jaden101
YouTube video

Haha, I'm still the smartest in the universe.

a very good documentary for anyone who is interested

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00ck4jd

Originally posted by jaden101
a very good documentary for anyone who is interested

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00ck4jd

it's quite balanced actually...it starts off for the conspiracies...then shreds them to pieces...then makes people like dylan avery look like complete tools...especially when he completely looses his cool and scream "i dont give a **** about his experience...he would say that"

which really is the actual crux and content of the "truthers" movement argument

Originally posted by jaden101
it's quite balanced actually...it starts off for the conspiracies...then shreds them to pieces...then makes people like dylan avery look like complete tools...especially when he completely looses his cool and scream "i dont give a **** about his experience...he would say that"

which really is the actual crux and content of the "truthers" movement argument

currently reading through about 20 peer reviewed papers on 9/11...i'll be sure to link to the best of them

here's a good one to start with though

http://www.scribd.com/doc/328231/Mechanics-of-Progressive-Collapse-Learning-from-the-World-Trade-Center-and-other-Buildings

tl;dr

Originally posted by lord xyz
tl;dr

i did...dont expect half the people here to though

9/11 was a conspiracy. The flaw in all these loony arguments, however, is that the conspiracy was by Osama Bin Laden and Al Qaeda.
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Originally posted by Kovacs86
9/11 was a conspiracy. The flaw in all these loony arguments, however, is that the conspiracy was by Osama Bin Laden and Al Qaeda.
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Ur right, cause if theres one thing we can trust it is the media and mainstream pop culture.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
Ur right, cause if theres one thing we can trust it is the media and mainstream pop culture.

pop culture?..what does that have to do with anything?

Originally posted by The Great Galen
Ur right, cause if theres one thing we can trust it is the media and mainstream pop culture.

No, I'd rather trust some idiot who's decided to compile a long list of coincidences and take huge leaps of logic to decide that really the President of the United States is, in fact, Satan. 😐

Originally posted by jaden101
i did...dont expect half the people here to though

"When hostilities in Europe commenced in 1939, it was realised the American people had no intention to enter the war, but it was believed that the country could be enticed into the war, in the very much the same way it was enticed into the last one. They planned first to prepare the United States for the war, onto the guise on the American defence. Second, to involve us into the war, step by step, without our realisation. Third, to create a series of incidents, which would force us into the actual conflict. These plans were of course, to be covered and assisted by their full power of their propoganda...our theatres soon began with plays portraying the glories of war. News reels lost all semblance, oftheir objectivity. And they have used the war, to justify the restriction of congressional power...and the assumption of dictatorial procedures and the part of the president and his appointees. A fear campaign was inaurgurated. We cannot allow the natural passions and prejudices of other peoples to lead our country to destruction."

-- Charles lindbergh

11th September 1941

Originally posted by Kovacs86
No, I'd rather trust some idiot who's decided to compile a long list of coincidences and take huge leaps of logic to decide that really the President of the United States is, in fact, Satan. 😐

Leaps in logic would be a "war"that never ends and a public that would rationlize every coincidence. Although Ill retract that...in fact there is no such thing as a conspiracy on any level.

Originally posted by Kovacs86
9/11 was a conspiracy. The flaw in all these loony arguments, however, is that the conspiracy was by Osama Bin Laden and Al Qaeda.
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exactly. 👆 👆 👆 👆 Thats a loony conspiracy theory right there.

way to miss his point...again

I always thought people get smarter as they age...