Wolverine vs...

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Wolverine vs...

A gauntlet of sorts. Wolverine takes on the following at full health 1on1 in pure fighting skill. No claws, no healing factor, no adamantium, physical attributes reduced or increased to that of the opponent. How many times out of 10 does he win/lose.

Arsenal
Batgirl (Cass)
Batman
Black Canary
Black Panther
Captain America
Connor Hawke
Daredevil
Deadpool
Deathstroke
Gamora
Green Arrow
Iron Fist
Karate Kid
Katana
Lady Shiva
Mystique
Namor
Nightwing
Psylocke
Red Hood (Jason Todd)
Richard Dragon
Robin (Tim Drake)
Shang Chi
Starfire
Talia al Ghul
Thing
Wonder Woman

All opponents are in plain clothes, have no weapons, and no powers other than physical attribute enhancements, strength, speed etc. and skill-based enhancement.

Arsenal wins 6/10
Batgirl (Cass) wins 9/10
Batman wins 10/10
Black Canary wins 7/10
Black Panther wins 10/10
Captain America wins 10/10
Connor Hawke wins 8/10
Daredevil wins 9/10
Deadpool wins 7/10
Deathstroke wins 10/10
Gamora wins 9/10
Green Arrow wins 7/10
Iron Fist wins 9/10
Karate Kid wins 10/10
Lady Shiva wins 9/10
Mystique wins 6/10
Namor wins 6/10
Nightwing wins 9/10
Red Hood (Jason Todd) wins 9/10
Richard Dragon wins 8/10
Robin (Tim Drake) wins 6/10
Shang Chi wins 10/10
Starfire wins 6/10
Talia al Ghul wins 6/10
Thing wins 6/10
Wonder Woman wins 6/10

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Do you mean he wins or they win? The list has grown I sneakily edited... 😖hifty:

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Do you mean he wins or they win? The list has grown I sneakily edited... 😖hifty:
I meant they win...but I was just kidding you sneaky bastard. Adding more people like that. Who do you think you are? Now my joke isn't funny or aggrivating. 😉

Re: Wolverine vs...

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
A gauntlet of sorts. Wolverine takes on the following at full health 1on1 in pure fighting skill. No claws, no healing factor, no adamantium, physical attributes reduced or increased to that of the opponent. How many times out of 10 does he win/lose.

Arsenal
Batgirl (Cass)
Batman
Black Canary
Black Panther
Captain America
Connor Hawke
Daredevil
Deadpool
Deathstroke
Gamora
Green Arrow
Iron Fist
Karate Kid
Katana
Lady Shiva
Mystique
Namor
Nightwing
Psylocke
Red Hood (Jason Todd)
Richard Dragon
Robin (Tim Drake)
Shang Chi
Starfire
Talia al Ghul
Thing
Wonder Woman

All opponents are in plain clothes, have no weapons, and no powers other than physical attribute enhancements, strength, speed etc. and skill-based enhancement.

Batgirl: Wolvie wins 2/10
Batman: Wolvie wins 2/10
Black Canary: Wolverine wins 4/10
Black Panther: Wolverine wins 5/10
Captain America: Wolverine wins 3/10
Connor Hawke: Wolvie wins 3/10
Daredevil: Wolverine wins 6/10
Deadpool: Wolverine wins 7/10
Deathstroke: Wolverine wins 7/10
Gamora: 😐
Green Arrow: Wolverine 5/10
Iron Fist: Wolvie wins 3/10
Karate Kid: 😐
Katana: Wolverine wins 8/10
Shiva: Wolverine wins 2-3/10
Mystique: Wolverine wins 5-6/10
Namor: Wolverine wins 9/10
Nightwing: Wolverine wins 4/10
Psylocke: Wolverine wins 6-7/10
Red Hood: Wolverine wins 5/10
Richard Dragon: Wolverine wins 2/10
Robin: Wolverine wins 6/10
Shang Chi: Wolverine wins 4-5/10
Starfire: Wolverine wins 10/10
Talia Al Guhl: Wolverine wins 6/10
Thing: Wolverine 10/10
Wonder Woman: Wolverine 3-4/10

Don't 😐 me... someone is bound to say he gets a win on Gamora and KK...

If your point is to see how he stacks up without his "powers", it's a given he'd do significantly less well, not that he doesn't have the ability to be lethal, but simply that he has relied on his "powers" alot during the years, and has had little use to develop complex strategems.

I just wanted to see how his fighting skills alone stack up against other people's since he purportedly knows dozens of styles and has thousands of years experience due to training with Ogun...

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
I just wanted to see how his fighting skills alone stack up against other people's since he purportedly knows dozens of styles and has thousands of years experience due to training with Ogun...

But Ogun only knew 13 styles. 😬

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
I just wanted to see how his fighting skills alone stack up against other people's since he purportedly knows dozens of styles and has thousands of years experience due to training with Ogun...
Do you think he'd be alot more lethal if he were to utilize them more? The styles I mean, and not rely on his healing?

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Do you think he'd be alot more lethal if he were to utilize them more? The styles I mean, and not rely on his healing?
Probably. Pretty much any character with enhanced physical attributes would be far more effective and formidable at fighting if they knew/used technical fighting skills to their advantage.
Originally posted by batdude123
But Ogun only knew 13 styles. 😬
Iunno 😬.

I'm saying it's a lack of usage out of a lack in necessity, not a lack in knowledge. That being said, I think it's actually a shame that Wolverine isn't written showing excellent martial prowress more often, instead of taking hits like a god.

Then again the average comic reader simply sees, "guy with webs, guy with claws."

I'm sure he has martial arts/fighting knowledge; however I never understood the notion that he's "master of every style" etc. that some people purport him to be and that's the reason he can somehow fight Namor etc. Same thing with Captain America.

So basically the thread is on an even footing, how often can Wolverine win by pure skill alone.

Re: Re: Wolverine vs...

Batgirl: Wolvie wins 3/10
Batman: Wolvie wins 3/10
Black Canary: Wolverine wins 4/10
Black Panther: Wolverine wins 5/10
Captain America: Wolverine wins 1/10
Connor Hawke: Wolvie wins 4/10
Daredevil: Wolverine wins 5/10
Deadpool: Wolverine wins 5/10
Deathstroke: Wolverine wins 4/10
Gamora: *agrees with Batdude*
Green Arrow: Wolverine 5/10
Iron Fist: Wolvie wins 4/10
Karate Kid: -See Gamora-
Katana: Wolverine wins 8/10
Shiva: Wolverine wins 2/10
Mystique: Wolverine wins 6/10
Namor: Wolverine wins 8/10
Nightwing: Wolverine wins 5/10
Psylocke: Wolverine wins 7/10
Red Hood: Wolverine wins 5/10
Richard Dragon: Wolverine wins 2/10
Robin: Wolverine wins 7/10
Shang Chi: Wolverine wins 5/10
Starfire: I'm not familiar enough to make an unbiased judgement. I'll, otherwise, agree with Batdude: Wolverine wins 10/10
Talia Al Guhl: Wolverine wins 5/10
Thing: Wolverine 10/10
Wonder Woman: Wolverine 5/10

I think mine and Batdude's lists are somewhat similar. Wolverine is a GREAT fighter, but, take away his claws, and healing factor? He'll be stomped FAR more often.

A better idea for the thread may have been both Wolverine WITH and WITHOUT his healing factor/claws. To compare, I mean.

That wouldn't really give any indication of his pure fighting ability though 😬

With claws is a possibility but then that's technically a weapon, adamantium bones is in a sense armour, and he's facing unarmed and unarmoured opponents.

Re: Re: Re: Wolverine vs...

Originally posted by Soljer
Captain America: Wolverine wins 1/10

disgust no2

Originally posted by batdude123
disgust no2

I just put that to get on your nerves, I knew you would respond as such, 😛.

I honestly believe that since Wolverine is put on an equal playing field with the physical abilites, and ONLY skill is taken into account, that he would win the same against Captain America as he would against Batman.

But, you know we disagree about the respective skill levels of Steve and Bruce.

Originally posted by Soljer
I just put that to get on your nerves, I knew you would respond as such, 😛.

I honestly believe that since Wolverine is put on an equal playing field with the physical abilites, and ONLY skill is taken into account, that he would win the same against Captain America as he would against Batman.

But, you know we disagree about the respective skill levels of Steve and Bruce.

Alright, yep. 💃

Originally posted by Soljer
I just put that to get on your nerves, I knew you would respond as such, 😛.

I honestly believe that since Wolverine is put on an equal playing field with the physical abilites, and ONLY skill is taken into account, that he would win the same against Captain America as he would against Batman.

But, you know we disagree about the respective skill levels of Steve and Bruce.

And although I respect Batdude a great deal I tend to side with Soljer on the Captain America vs Batman deal.

Originally posted by Psyquis52
And although I respect Batdude a great deal I tend to side with Soljer on the Captain America vs Batman deal.

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