Wolverine vs...

Started by Bol Gath3 pages

I can't seem to remember where I read this... but forge was monitoring wolverine in the danger room and did a calculation??? of it all. the result: it was like performing a world record (in some sport, say running) while you beat the four hardest chess computers in the world... so he's pretty calculating when he is fighting. (sorry for the bad spelling and grammar, from Sweden 😄)

I've said it before and I'll say it again - people often confuse good fighter with good martial artist - they are not necessarily the same thing. I've always thought that Wolverine was such a good fighter that it's as IF he's mastered every style on the planet. I mean, he has been trained in many styles sure, but his real ability comes from his mutation - like Cap's ability to apply the skill he does know comes from the SS serum. Wolverine's mutation and Cap's SS serum sort of function as an "X-factor" - that is even though they might not have trained in nearly as many disciplines as say Shang Chi or Iron Fist - they have more of a natural ability to apply the skill that they do know. For example, Wolverine's mutation gives him a sort of animalistic agility. This combined with the senses and reflexes enhanced by his mutation overall allow him to execute moves easier than the average human. He also has more experience training in the arts he does know - he has more fighting experience over all and has excercised certain moves more often than Shang Chi or Iron Fist due to his age. His enhanced speed and strength also play a factor into his fighting ability. Taking away his mutation is like taking the SSS away from Cap, you can't be really sure how good of a fighter you will be left with since everything that Logan has used his whole life to enhance his natural fighting ability has now left him. That being said, he likely possesses a greater natural ability to apply fighting skills than almost everyone in the Marvel U. Only rigerous training that Chi and Fist go through can make them a worthy opponent for him and he doesn't need to train as hard to do just as well or better. Much like Cap. Cap has not even mastered as many styles as Logan yet he fights just as well..Cap would probably give Chi or Fist a good run for their money the same as Logan probably around 5/10. Just wanted to share my two cents as to how Logan is consistently able to do so well against opponents who have trained in more styles than him.

Wolverine is unique - he's a combination of skill, enhanced speed, reflexes, strength, and a born killer's instincts. As well as super hearing smell, touch, etc which would also give him a greater ability to naturally fight more than the average human.

Cap has fought without the serum and still whipped Crossbones so i'd say, he did pretty damn good for himself.

I noticed people have Wolverine getting some wins over Wonder Woman and I'm rather confused.

Arsenal-no idea.
Batgirl (Cass)-Logan 4/10
Batman-even split or maybe Logan for the ever so slight majority.
Black Canary-Logan for the majority
Black Panther-Logan at least 6/10
Captain America-same as Batman
Connor Hawke-no idea
Daredevil-Same as batman.
Deadpool-not sure, but Logan for the clear majority.
Deathstroke-same as above.
Gamora-Logan 1/10
Green Arrow-Logan 8/10
Iron Fist-Logan 4/10
Karate Kid-All versions take the clear majority from Logan in my opinion.
Katana-no idea
Lady Shiva-assuming equal stats......Shiva 6/10.
Mystique- Logan takes the clear majority.
Namor-assuming equal stats.......Logan for the vast majority.
Nightwing- Logan for most
Psylocke-Logan for most
Red Hood (Jason Todd)-Logan for most.
Richard Dragon-Logan 4/10 or even split
Robin (Tim Drake)-Logan 10/10
Shang Chi-Logan 7/10
Starfire-no idea
Talia al Ghul-Logan 10/10
Thing-Logan 10/10
Wonder Woman- Logan for the clear majority.

So is it a human Logan vs. these people with their super powers, or are they powerless too?

Originally posted by Mindset
So is it a human Logan vs. these people with their super powers, or are they powerless too?

My understanding is that its Logan stripped of adamantium/hf and physically he is the same as whomever it is he is fighting. I don't think opponents have 'powers', for example Psylocke.

Originally posted by Warrior18

Gamora-Logan 1/10
Lady Shiva-assuming equal stats......Shiva 6/10.
Shang Chi-Logan 7/10
Wonder Woman- Logan for the clear majority.

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Originally posted by tkitna
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