Silver Surfer Vs Majestic

I don't think one hit will KO or kill Surfer, but my point is that Melee can kill or KO surfer.

Ill post a few examples.

1. being stabbed and nearly killed by a knife

2. brought to his knees by a lightning bolt from storm

3. being KO'ed by Thanos punches

4. being beaten down by Thor in melee (when he was tricked by loki to attack thor because he thought thor was evil, and second when Thor defeated SS in Infinity watch)

5. When he was beaten down by dracula

6. When Mephisto grabbed SS legs via magic and yanked him from his board, SS fell like a brick, no speed or flight what so ever SS has said this himself. <----all Majestic has to do is knock SS off his board and then pummel him away from his board in angles that his board cannot travel quickly at, or turn quickly too.

**********If Thanos or Thor can KO Surfer with melee, what do you think Majestic is going to do to Surfer who (majestic) has superior Strength, combat/reflex speed to both Thanos and Thor?************

You're still under the impression that Surfer is going to try to box with Majestic. That's not his style, which is why he gets owned whenever he tries it with Thanos or even Thor. Surfer doesn't HAVE to get in close in order to fight Maj. If SS uses his speed effectively, he won't have to worry about Majestic even getting near him.

Show me one battle he has fought where he wasnt close, Surfers style is to fly around his opponent at speeds he can be hit at, and blast them with cosmic blast (when he does this he usually gets hit anyway), or he goes melee and gets pummeled.

I can show you plenty of scans where Surfer flys around using his speed but gets hit and KO'ed anyway, can YOU show me scans of surfer fighting some one who moves thousands of times the speed of light (WHO UNLIKE SURFER who CANNOT GO THAT FAST IN COMBAT) and hit him?

I didn't think so, I have provided scans showing Majestic has the battle speed (thousands of times the speed of light) and reaction speed (thousandths of a picto second) to battle Surfer (who is slower then majestic in combat).

Surfers not going to have a choice, Majestics going to catch him in combat, close or medium range and then knock him off his board.

If Surfer flys in a relative straight line then their goes Surfers agility and dodge, easy target, Surfers speed is not going to leave Majestic in the dust or run circles around majestic so get that idea out of your head. Secondly as ive shown with examples and SCANS Majestic has faster combat speed and reflex/reaction speed then surfer.

Originally posted by Accel
You're still under the impression that Surfer is going to try to box with Majestic. That's not his style, which is why he gets owned whenever he tries it with Thanos or even Thor. Surfer doesn't HAVE to get in close in order to fight Maj. If SS uses his speed effectively, he won't have to worry about Majestic even getting near him.

Don't bother.

Originally posted by Jesse7
One of the few who agree Majestic can take SS woot, thanks kam!

And as I have shown with many post, examples, and SCANS, Majestic has suprior combat, and reflex speed, and has the extreme edge in hitting SS and knocking him off his board.

Dont try and tell me SS is to durable for punches, because A knife nearly killed SS, storm had SS on his knees from a thunderbolt, Thanos has KO'ed SS with punches.

If Thanos who is not as strong or fast as Majestic can knock SS out of the air with melee and or energy blast and then proceed to KO SS with punches, then Majestic could do so 100x easier with his superior combat and reflex speed and strength.

You are still foolish.

Combat and reflexive speeds mean nothing, when he can put the distance between them much faster than Majestic can close the gap.

And why are you doubting Surfers durability??

Superman has been cut with a dagger.

Cap Marvel has had Superman reeling from a lightning bolt.

Darkseid has koed Superman with little effort.

Why does it count for Surfer, but you ignore it for Superman??

If Darkseid can ko Superman, while not having Superspeed and flick a blitzing Superman aside like a child, why doesn't it drop the value of Superman in your eyes??

And Thanos is easily in Majestics class or a cut above.

He doesn't have lifting feats, but then again, most villains don't!
We compare their strength, based on who they beat and how they do it.

Thanos has owned Drax and Hulk, two top tiers with ease.
Drax has ripped apart stars!!
Don't tell me Thanos isn't a cut above, when you know nothing of him.

Do you think Darkseid is stronger than Superman, even though he never lifts anything??

Course you do. Cuz its Superman right??

It seems like you were looking for someone who can beat Surfer.

And though you haven't found him, you don't have the grace to admit what everybody else seems to know.

Originally posted by Jesse7
Show me one battle he has fought where he wasnt close, Surfers style is to fly around his opponent at speeds he can be hit at, and blast them with cosmic blast (when he does this he usually gets hit anyway), or he goes melee and gets pummeled.

Originally posted by Jesse7
I can show you plenty of scans where Surfer flys around using his speed but gets hit and KO'ed anyway, can YOU show me scans of surfer fighting some one who moves thousands of times the speed of light (WHO UNLIKE SURFER who CANNOT GO THAT FAST IN COMBAT) and hit him?

Originally posted by Jesse7
I didn't think so, I have provided scans showing Majestic has the battle speed (thousands of times the speed of light) and reaction speed (thousandths of a picto second) to battle Surfer (who is slower then majestic in combat).

Originally posted by Jesse7
Surfers not going to have a choice, Majestics going to catch him in combat, close or medium range and then knock him off his board.

Originally posted by Jesse7
If Surfer flys in a relative straight line then their goes Surfers agility and dodge, easy target, Surfers speed is not going to leave Majestic in the dust or run circles around majestic so get that idea out of your head. Secondly as ive shown with examples and SCANS Majestic has faster combat speed and reflex/reaction speed then surfer.

LOL you believe Thanos is above Majestic in strength and speed.

Omi stop messing around, and provide scans that prove me wrong other wise, Show me scans that Surfer has speed blizted some one in BATTLE who is thousands of times the speed of light and has the reaction and reflexive time of 1/1000 of a picto second (being able to analyze a situation, move around and find materials and build a machiene to combat the enemy, twice because he changed plans, I showed SCANS on this earlier).

Surfer is out classed here in terms of speed and reflex, unlike you I have provided scans, and I CAN provide scans of SS being punked by people far slower then majestic.

Now heres my question to you to get through all this BS, can you show me scans of SS speed blitzing some one in combat who has comparable speed to Majestic?

Originally posted by Accel
When I say H2H isn't his style, I mean it's not the way he works best, nor is it how he normally operates. he normally just flies around and shoots cosmic blasts. His biggest flaw in any fight, however, is that he's such a pacifist, so he always goes easy. Here, he'll be going to the best of his ability.

By "combat," I assume you mean punching, kicking, dodging, all that good stuff, right? Surfer's not a brawler and unless he gets a brain-fart and decides to hop off his board and take Majestros in a slug-fest, he shouldn't have to worry about such a thing. When you can rearrange your opponent's molecules, travel through time, or absorb enormous amounts of energy, you don't really have to worry about fighting like a martial artist.

Funny, I've read Khell's entire Majestic Thread and I've never actually seen the guy FIGHT at 1000X the speed of light (I've seen him FLY at those speeds, but not FIGHT). However, I will admit that I just started reading Majestic and am fairly new with the character.

He won't catch him if Surfer won't let him. Surfer IS the faster of the two and speed often plays a very big role in determining the outcome of a fight. Basically, Surfer should use his far superior speed to never let Majestic touch him.

Surfer's not so easy to beat if he's flying in straight line, especially since even then he can still create black holes with ease.

Allow me to clear a few things up, maybe you need to re read the series, ill post scans.

1. Here is a scan of Majestic in combat moving thousands of times the speed of light.
On Earth the villain rants: "... life savings on this prototype. Now it's just a worthless pile of junk! This is not chaos-charisma in action! This is anti-sophistication." At that point Majestic flies in at high speed, grabs the villain and locks him in a police car.

So, unless the villain was repeating those two sentences over and over again, we have Earth to Saturn and back within a sentence.
http://img301.imageshack.us/my.php?...imedust12cu.jpg
http://img301.imageshack.us/my.php?...imedust25yn.jpg

2. Majestic has the speed advantage over SS in every way in combat, Majestic completely dwarfs SS in combat speed, Reaction speed, reflexive speed, and analyzing speed, here are the scans to prove it.

After scanning on a molecular level, Maj decides he needs to go build some shit. In the VERY NEXT PAGE, he's back. He's researched and built (twice, since he had to change the plans) a brand new piece of technology almost instantly. NOTE how he describes the time spent in nanoseconds and thousandths of a second.
http://img74.imageshack.us/my.php?i...uilding18dr.jpg
http://img142.imageshack.us/my.php?...uilding25rr.jpg
http://img142.imageshack.us/my.php?...uilding38oc.jpg

3. Surfer has fought twice blood lusted, and he in both times he did the same thing, he flew around in circles (NOT A STRAIGHT LINE, because if he flew in a straight line whos going to be stupid enough to fly right behind him, Majestic just has to cut him off), and he went for melee. -=I will post scans of both of these battles later=-

A. the First time SS fought blood lusted was when Loki tricked SS, and made him think Thor was the bad guy, SS went all out to defeat him, he didnt hold back one bit, because he was under Lokis influence and with a power upgrade from him. Also in this fight Thor though SS just wanted to Spar, so Thor went light on him and still defeated SS.

B. SS fights Orion, SS was blood lusted by Galactus command, what did SS do? He flew around in circles for a bit, got nailed doing this, and then went for close range combat.

You make it sound like SS has superior speed when in combat, which he doesnt, gets nailed and tagged by people far slower such Thanos (with punches), by Storm (a lightning bolt), by Odin (twice in a row dead on), by Thor (with a hammer and energy blast), by Orion, by the Runner, by the Stranger, by Mephisto, etc.

Majestic has superior speed in combat, the only speed advantage SS has is when running away in a straight line, big whup it wont win him any fights, and if goes to far then he cant attack, if hes close enough to attack, then hes close enough to be knocked off his board. The momment SS goes on the offensive he loses his relative straight line dashing speed advantage.

None of your links work. 😂

And I've looked all through Khell's thread. Never ONCE did he use combat speed at 1000x the speed of light. He only traveled at those speed. I have NO clue where the hell you came up with that one.

I provided the scans of where he did

So, unless the villain was repeating those two sentences over and over again, we have Earth to Saturn and back within a sentence.
http://img301.imageshack.us/my.php?image=timedust12cu.jpg
http://img99.imageshack.us/my.php?image=timedust26gt.jpg
http://img85.imageshack.us/my.php?i...imedust36bn.jpg

^Right there

By the way if they dont work, try in about 10 minutes Ive noticed they dont always work, but they do work just give them some time.

Originally posted by Jesse7
LOL you believe Thanos is above Majestic in strength and speed.

Omi stop messing around, and provide scans that prove me wrong other wise, Show me scans that Surfer has speed blizted some one in BATTLE who is thousands of times the speed of light and has the reaction and reflexive time of 1/1000 of a picto second (being able to analyze a situation, move around and find materials and build a machiene to combat the enemy, twice because he changed plans, I showed SCANS on this earlier).

Surfer is out classed here in terms of speed and reflex, unlike you I have provided scans, and I CAN provide scans of SS being punked by people far slower then majestic.

Now heres my question to you to get through all this BS, can you show me scans of SS speed blitzing some one in combat who has comparable speed to Majestic?

**Samuel Jackson Moment**

"ENGLISH MUTHAFUKKA!! DO YOU SPEAK IT?!"

**End Moment**

Why oh why do you keep bringing up this speedblitz thing Jesse??

Where are we saying speedblitz??

Surfer doesn't do that. He's not a brick.

All I and others keep saying, is that Surfer would zoom away faster than Majestic can keep up, and blast him.

And Majestic isn't that durable for a top tier brick.

And Jesse, answer me this.

Do you think Darkseid is stronger than Majestic?? Or Superman for that matter?

Nope I dont think Majestic is stronger then either, faster yes that I do.

And by the way Omi are you specifically dodging my post? I explained that zooming away and blasting wouldnt work, SS has to see where hes blasting.

SHOW ME A SCAN where SS has flown half a solar system away and bombarded his enemy, want to know why it wont work? Because with Majestics superior combat speed (thousands of times the speed of light) and reflexive speed (thousandths of a picto second) dodging those blast from that range will be cake.

The momment SS comes close to fight its over, because SS is not going to be flying in a straight line his entire battle, and if he does then SS basically throws in the towl because its pretty easy to tell where some one is going when traveling in a straight line.

SHOW ME SCANS of SS flying half a solar system away and bombarding, HE NEVER HAS IN ALL HIS COMIC HISTORY. SS always has to be close so he can HIT his target, and if hes close then hes not going to be going in a straight line, and if hes not in a straight line he loses ALOT of his speed (such as being it by storm, mephisto, thanos, thor, stranger, etc.) and when that happens Majestic knocks him off his board as so many have.

Show me A SCAN where SS just flys in straight lines his entire battle, he never has, because if you do that you become predictable, he needs to dodge and move in other directions, which when he does he loses ALOT of speed, far slower then majestic.

Have you ever read a Surfer comic??

Especially a recent one??

He zips around in loops and twirls, and blasts away.

And Majestic can dodge some, but not all.

And as powerful as the blasts are, he won't take many of them.

And don't you feel Majestic is stronger than Darkseid??

Explain why Darky is stronger in your eyes, but Thanos isn't??

Tell me why.

Have you ever read any of Darkseids feats from the Pre crisis days, Did you know DS wasnt affect by the pc and that hes the same DS? Meaning all his feats are still the same, have you ever seen his feats?

Are you trying to convince me that Thanos feats (without IG or HOTU) actually compare to DS's?

YEs I have seen SS recent comics (annihilation included), ooo but look he still gets hit by people who are no where near as fast as Majestic, your point is null. Actually ill take it a step further, since you brought it up that SS does loops and spins, thats my point exactly when SS does those manuevers hes not traveling millions or thousands of times the speed of light, and thats when hes going to get nailed.

P.S. I have to go ill be back later, provide scans of your claims that SS can travel millions or thousands of times the speed of light while doing those manuevers.

2. Show me scans that SS can travel half a solar system away and accurately hit some one with MAjestics speed.

You can't can you?

Originally posted by Jesse7
Have you ever read any of Darkseids feats from the Pre crisis days, Did you know DS wasnt affect by the pc and that hes the same DS? Meaning all his feats are still the same, have you ever seen his feats?

Are you trying to convince me that Thanos feats (without IG or HOTU) actually compare to DS's?

YEs I have seen SS recent comics, ooo but look he still gets hit by people who are no where near as fast as Majestic, your point is null.

As does Superman whenever Doomsday shows up.

And what notable weight did Darkseid lift Precrisis??

Since that is what dictates how strong someone is in your eyes?

Originally posted by Jesse7
YEs I have seen SS recent comics (annihilation included), ooo but look he still gets hit by people who are no where near as fast as Majestic, your point is null.

And, every once in a while, Spider-man gets hit by a street thug. And the Flash can get nailed by Deathstroke.

Most around here have a label for that sort of thing.

Originally posted by Jesse7
1. Here is a scan of Majestic in combat moving thousands of times the speed of light.
On Earth the villain rants: "... life savings on this prototype. Now it's just a worthless pile of junk! This is not chaos-charisma in action! This is anti-sophistication." At that point Majestic flies in at high speed, grabs the villain and locks him in a police car.

So, unless the villain was repeating those two sentences over and over again, we have Earth to Saturn and back within a sentence.
http://img301.imageshack.us/my.php?...imedust12cu.jpg
http://img301.imageshack.us/my.php?...imedust25yn.jpg

Majestic flying to and from Saturn is still FLIGHT speed. That's no different than Surfer traveling in a straight line and spanning a light-year in a second.

Originally posted by Jesse7
2. Majestic has the speed advantage over SS in every way in combat, Majestic completely dwarfs SS in combat speed, Reaction speed, reflexive speed, and analyzing speed, here are the scans to prove it.

After scanning on a molecular level, Maj decides he needs to go build some shit. In the VERY NEXT PAGE, he's back. He's researched and built (twice, since he had to change the plans) a brand new piece of technology almost instantly. NOTE how he describes the time spent in nanoseconds and thousandths of a second.
http://img74.imageshack.us/my.php?i...uilding18dr.jpg
http://img142.imageshack.us/my.php?...uilding25rr.jpg
http://img142.imageshack.us/my.php?...uilding38oc.jpg

Originally posted by Jesse7
3. Surfer has fought twice blood lusted, and he in both times he did the same thing, he flew around in circles (NOT A STRAIGHT LINE, because if he flew in a straight line whos going to be stupid enough to fly right behind him, Majestic just has to cut him off), and he went for melee. -=I will post scans of both of these battles later=-

Originally posted by Jesse7
A. the First time SS fought blood lusted was when Loki tricked SS, and made him think Thor was the bad guy, SS went all out to defeat him, he didnt hold back one bit, because he was under Lokis influence and with a power upgrade from him. Also in this fight Thor though SS just wanted to Spar, so Thor went light on him and still defeated SS.

Originally posted by Jesse7
B. SS fights Orion, SS was blood lusted by Galactus command, what did SS do? He flew around in circles for a bit, got nailed doing this, and then went for close range combat. [/B]

Originally posted by Jesse7
You make it sound like SS has superior speed when in combat, which he doesnt, gets nailed and tagged by people far slower such Thanos (with punches), by Storm (a lightning bolt), by Odin (twice in a row dead on), by Thor (with a hammer and energy blast), by Orion, by the Runner, by the Stranger, by Mephisto, etc. [/B]

Originally posted by Jesse7
Majestic has superior speed in combat, the only speed advantage SS has is when running away in a straight line, big whup it wont win him any fights, and if goes to far then he cant attack, if hes close enough to attack, then hes close enough to be knocked off his board. The momment SS goes on the offensive he loses his relative straight line dashing speed advantage.[/B]

I remember the comic where the ultimate nullifier was about to blow in Galactus ship. Surfer was just dropped by Morg who had the device. when he got up woozy, Galactus told him to get away from the ship. It took him less than a second to move galaxies away from the blast before it blew.

Originally posted by Jesse7

Secondly, you don't get it, it doesnt matter if both LT and SS know about it, its like it never happened. It is only cannon if both companies tha twere part of the crossover acknowledge it as part of both their comics continuity, such as having it in a characters official bio, or in another comic that is part of the mainstream continuity.

SS traveled to Wildstorm and that was cannon since it was mentioned in both companies current continuity..mentioned in old and new Cyberforce series as well as X-men/Wilcats series/Wolverine/team X(i think) it was one shot series. SS has admitted able to accessed diff. dimension and has gone to diff. multiverses with help and w/ own abilities.

SS has fought a being with Gladiators energies/ other creatures energies + uni force + his powers being absorbed yet he stood H2H against this guy; http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/rroldz/detail?.dir=79d8scd&.dnm=7e19scd.jpg&.src=ph
so Majestic wont easily ko SS with Brute. Lets not forget Maj. fell w/ a nerve pinch by Shapers guild lead., frozen by manipulating time in Captain Atom armahgeddon #7. SS precog abilities done w/ ease, couppled with manipulating time and Chronal energy blast, SS has what it take to put Maj. for good.

Originally posted by Rols
SS traveled to Wildstorm and that was cannon since it was mentioned in both companies current continuity..mentioned in old and new Cyberforce series as well as X-men/Wilcats series/Wolverine/team X(i think) it was one shot series. SS has admitted able to accessed diff. dimension and has gone to diff. multiverses with help and w/ own abilities.

SS has fought a being with Gladiators energies/ other creatures energies + uni force + his powers being absorbed yet he stood H2H against this guy; http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/rroldz/detail?.dir=79d8scd&.dnm=7e19scd.jpg&.src=ph
so Majestic wont easily ko SS with Brute. Lets not forget Maj. fell w/ a nerve pinch by Shapers guild lead., frozen by manipulating time in Captain Atom armahgeddon #7. SS precog abilities done w/ ease, couppled with manipulating time and Chronal energy blast, SS has what it take to put Maj. for good.

✅

Surfer beats out Majestic.