Jesse, i swear its like i'm talking to a brick wall.
Where did i ever say Surfer was going to blitz Majestros??
Quote it please.
Surfer doesn't fly at people trying to hit them, unless its Thanos.
He circles them, and blasts from afar. Using his speed to keep away.
And when did Darkseid ever lift Something?? Really??
All we go on, is how they handle people with the lifting feats.
Thats how we've always done it.
Is Darkseid stronger than Majestic Jesse?? Is he stronger than Superman?
Alright Uni, I see I misread that you said SS would be gone as in he would move away not at Majestic. Still Majestic could keep up with SS and dodge his blast, SS is faster then Majestic when traveling or going in a straight line, but when in combat and SS is circling, dodging, etc. Their speed is on the same level with Majestic for the advantage because when ever SS goes flying around people in a circle blasting them, he usually ends up KO'ed, knocked off his board or slugged by a fist or energy blast.
A good example of this is when SS fought Odin, he goes flying around at his uber fast speed, in strategic circles, and then ODin who is not faster then thousands of times the speed of light, blast him straight off his board. The point of this is not Odins power level, but that ODin who is not the fastest character was able to hit SS while SS was strategically moving at hyper speeds and blasting Odin with well place cosmic blast.
See what I'm saying here Omi?
Another example is when SS fought Thor because he was tricked by Loki, SS was flying around blasting Thor, and then Thor got serious and beat SS down, and even before Thor became Serious he was still holding off and making a joke of SS (he thought ss wanted to spar).
Majestic is faster then these characters I mentioned, far faster in speed, and reaction, he will be able to catch up to SS, unless SS is running away from Majestic in nothing but a straight line but then SS is not going to be able to attack Majestic. Majestic has the advantage here.
Do you need more examples?
Originally posted by UniOmni
Surfer has scanned and analyzed in pictoseconds as well.But what you aren't getting, is that once the bell goes off, Surfer is gone.
Whether in front of him or behind, Surfer is gone.Speedblitzing mean nothing, when the guy you're trying to blitz, is gone lightyears in the other direction, only to swoop back in and start shooting at you from a distance.
And the way you're writing Majestic, he'll keep on zooming into a face full of high powered cosmic energy.
And he can't take as much of that as others.
And theres a vast misconception about Surfer here it appears.
He isn't only fast in a straight line. He is hella shifty on that board.
So its not a simple blitz in and knock him off thing.
And i'd say Thanos is stronger than Majestic. Easily.
If you noticed, only heroes get lifting feats the majority of the time.
Darkseid hasn't lifted anything in ages, if ever, and yet we know he's stronger than Superman and the rest.
Why the disregard to Thanos?
And Avy, i got the comic. He's using that to cross a vast amount of space to find the citizens of Earth.
Thats not standard Majestic equipment.
Surfer's board is a mainstay of Surfer comics.
And i'd say Surfer is quite a bit faster.
Crossing the universe/galaxies in seconds >>>> Crossing universe/galaxies in several panels.
I never claimed that it's standard equipment for Maj. Simply that while the machine is reponsible for the propulsion, Maj is still basically flying it by sight. It's a pretty barebone flight contraption.
Originally posted by Jesse7
Ill post scans, one momment.First panel of the next page, he's back to normal.
http://img404.imageshack.us/my.php?...smagic053ht.jpg^This shows that Majestic can combat matter manipulation, so no surfer wont be able to beat majestic by matter manipulation.
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Turns his own body into superdense material and makes the trip to the sun.
http://img52.imageshack.us/my.php?i...system142uv.jpg^more matter manipulation, changes his matter.
IDK, did Maj reverse the stone transformation himself or did the glowing pyramid the chick was cradling while the other girl asked if it was working?
Likewise he didn't perform the second feat himself. He states it took one week in a 'transubstantiation tube'. Good tech showing but hardly one that's going to matter in battle.
Originally posted by Jesse7
Third, Majestic has planet shattering strength so his punches will hurt Silver Surfer. Thanos has shown to KO Silver Surfer with punches and Thanos strength is no where near as strong as Majestics.P.S. Thanos has defeated SS in h2h/close combat, Majestic dwarfs and out classes Thanos in this field by leaps and bounds, thus if Thanos can out speed and out power SS, Majestic can do it 100 fold. Thanos may use Tech, but Majestic has shown to have extremely high tier tech, including his sword, teliporters, image projectors, etc.
^Majestic strength was so strong that he had to create special gauntlets that he would use when moving a planet because other wise it would shatter.
That's just physics, like how the Baxter Building didn't collapse when Gladiator lifted it because of the field he subconsciously extended around it. In the scan where Majestic lifts the prison shift he says thats what the gloves do.
I'd think Surfer could augment his strength to these levels at any rate.
Originally posted by Big Sexy
Gladiator, and Hulk both have planet buster punshes. Gladiador himself still moves at warp speed. SS wins this
Show me a scan of Hulk destroying a planet with one punch, show me a scan of Gladiator destroying a planet with one punch.
Warp speed? Do you know what warp speed is? On panel it narrates that majsestic has in battle speed of thousands of times the speed of light, maybe you haven't been paying attention, but I provided scans and examples of a how SS does not have this kind of speed in battle, SS would be out clased in strength and speed by Majestic in battle, I also provided the key way Majestic would defeat SS every single time.
Majestic over SS 7-8/10
Jesse, why must Surfer have battle reflexes??
If he's fast enough to put lightyears in between them at will, why are the superfast reflexes needed??
He's durable enough to take the hits.
Powerful enough to fry Majestic to a crisp.
And he's so much faster that its insane.
Its not a dbz match.
Two guys aren't going in for close combat.
Only one is, and the other is more than fast enough to keep him away and blast him down at will.
Surfer is more powerful than Majestic.
I wanna say Surfer 8.5/10, but Majestic is a favorite of mine, so i'll only say Surfer 6/10.
And Hulk has destroyed an asteroid twice the size of Earth before.
Gladiator has punched apart planets.
We can do this all day Jess.
Yeah put light years between them, does that do SS any good? none at all, and Majestic can keep up with SS there in the same league of speed when in combat range.
SS can run all he wants but it wont give him the victory, Majestic surpasses SS in combat speed, and you know what show me one scan where SS can use his speed in combat or close range or range of cosmic blast.
You can't, want to know why because he has never done it ever, and when ever he tries to keep distance between him and his oppenents he usually gets nailed by a blast or punch.
Face it, untill you post scans that say other wise, SS has poor showings for speed and reflexes in battle.
