How exactly can they beat him without removing him from the battlefield? Most fighters I give the benifit of doubt because they have some versitility like speed, strength, magic... But these are two tanks fighting the ultimate tank. They can't match Jugg's strength, duribility or hurt him any kind of fashion.
Originally posted by DickBlazer
Colossus and Thing could last 20 against Classic Jobbernaut.
Colossus is much stronger now than the first time he met Juggs, and he won't be drunk. Thing is a brawler, he can keep up for awhile in the right situation.
Doesn't matter how strong you are when your opponent has limitless strength, stamina, and durability with a magic inertia sucking force field to boot.
juggernaut has been seen playing around with his victims NUMEROUS times. if you are going to say thing and colossus are going into this blood lust/looking for a brawl/ready to fight, the same has to be said of juggernaut.
after he gets done playing around (talking trash, gets bored whatever) he usually finishes the fight HIS way. in style, and rather quickly. he has did it with colossus twice, thing, gen-x, the x-men, hulk, and he probably would have done it to x-force had he not been teleported away.
lets face the facts, juggernaut is a team wrecker. this team is no different. they have NOTHING he doesnt have and wont last if he doesnt want them to.
Originally posted by The Fake Macoy
I don't see how Juggernaut dropping Thing in 3 punches can be brought up without counting how Thing KO'd Juggernaut by tripping him... Besides, Colossus alone has lasted a fair bit of time against classic Juggy back when Colossus was far weaker, so the team could beat the clock here.
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Originally posted by The Fake Macoy
I don't see how Juggernaut dropping Thing in 3 punches can be brought up without counting how Thing KO'd Juggernaut by tripping him... Besides, Colossus alone has lasted a fair bit of time against classic Juggy back when Colossus was far weaker, so the team could beat the clock here.
My good sir, you do realize Juggernaut has the Strength to shatter Planets.
Juggernaut's strength is not the question, friend. The thing is, Juggernaut is a hulk-SMASH type.
The Thing and Colossus are both fairly good fighters. While their strength (even combined) is NOTHING compared to the Juggernaut's, they could definitely last 20 minutes. They don't even have to really fight, just distract him, right?
Or, the low-earth orbit idea.
Originally posted by Soljer
Juggernaut's strength is not the question, friend. The thing is, Juggernaut is a hulk-SMASH type.The Thing and Colossus are both fairly good fighters. While their strength (even combined) is NOTHING compared to the Juggernaut's, they could definitely last 20 minutes. They don't even have to really fight, just distract him, right?
Or, the low-earth orbit idea.
Even Still, 20 minutes may not seem like a long time to you, but its different once the fight starts. 20 minutes would be an eternity against someone who cannot be harmed what-so-ever, and can easily Ko or Kill you with a few planet Shattering Punches.
By themselves, theses guys would be lucky to go 60 seconds with a Bloodlusted Juggernaut, But combined it gives them a better shot, not by much however. Juggernaut has withstood shots from Thors Hammer without his shield up and barely budged.
They would have to basically run or evade Juggernaut for 20 minutes in order to win this fight, because once they engage in close quarters, it will be the last time they ever do that.
But if running is their only chance of victory, I guess it must be considered. 😬
Originally posted by Soljer
Juggernauts strength is not the question, friend. The thing is, Juggernaut is a hulk-SMASH type.
not always 😉. he often plays with his victims. but he isnt always just a swinging type of guy. he has used his surroundings and his force field before. he has used buildings... tanks and everything else to heave like baseballs. he isnt just a hulk smash type of guy...
Originally posted by Soljer
The Thing and Colossus are both fairly good fighters. While their strength (even combined) is NOTHING compared to the Juggernaut's, they could definitely last 20 minutes. They don't even have to really fight, just distract him, right?
well lets set up a scenario. if juggernaut is just standing around and has nothing to do, and thing and colossus are on the other side of the united states... of coarse they are going to last 20 minutes. lets say warning alarms go off at the baxter building and juggernaut is half a block away. colossus just happens to be putting in an application to join the fantastic four and him and thing are deployed to stop juggernaut from reaching the building. it decreases there odds significantly since juggernaut isnt just going to deter from his path to fight some idiots who cant harm him. like i said, if juggernaut is serious, these 2 go down. 1 per fist of the juggernaut.
Originally posted by Soljer
Or, the low-earth orbit idea.
this is just silly. you KNOW just as well as i do, if anybody is going to be sent into orbit, its going to be colossus or thing or both... juggernaut has the strength to get them there, but can you show me where thing or colossus has shown to launch something into orbit?
Originally posted by The Fake Macoy
I don't see how Juggernaut dropping Thing in 3 punches can be brought up without counting how Thing KO'd Juggernaut by tripping him...
he ko'd him???? lol. if you can prove that thing ko'd juggernaut in any universe, i'll have a 100 dollar wal-mart gift card on its way to you lol.
Originally posted by The Fake Macoy
Besides, Colossus alone has lasted a fair bit of time against classic Juggy back when Colossus was far weaker, so the team could beat the clock here.
mind showing me this either?? i recall 2 occasions juggernaut knocking colossus out with a single punch. need scans?
Originally posted by Grimm22
*Ahem*Maybe you should read some of his fights with the Hulk 😉
usually thing DOES dodge punchs, but he can only dodge so long from hulk and usually after hulk gets so mad it doesnt matter anymore. hulk just overpowers him. the unique thing about this is, juggernaut doesnt have to get mad to do what hulk does. he has his strength ALL the time and its not dictated by his anger...
Originally posted by KillAll
usually thing DOES dodge punchs, but he can only dodge so long from hulk and usually after hulk gets so mad it doesnt matter anymore. hulk just overpowers him. the unique thing about this is, juggernaut doesnt have to get mad to do what hulk does. he has his strength ALL the time and its not dictated by his anger...
True 😬
However, Colossus is there also ✅
i actually think colossus is a non factor. he has never shown (no pis... whatever other abbreviations there are now) to be able to stand up to more than one punch from juggernaut. if juggernaut didnt want him to.
so basically i think thing is on his own. weather he makes it 20 minutes or not is dependant entirely on the situation.