We are monkeys...

Originally posted by Remulous
what proof do u have that we were apes other than what scientist tell u

hominid

Any member of the zoological family Hominidae (order Primates), which consists of the great apes (orangutans, gorillas, chimpanzees, and bonobos) as well as human beings. Formerly, only humans (with their extinct forebears) were categorized as hominids, and the great apes were categorized as pongids-that is, members of the primate family Pongidae. However, morphological and molecular studies now indicate that humans are closely related to chimpanzees, while gorillas are more distant and orangutans more distant still. As a result, it has become more common among zoologists to consider humans and great apes to be hominids.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
hominid

Any member of the zoological family Hominidae (order Primates), which consists of the great apes (orangutans, gorillas, chimpanzees, and bonobos) as well as human beings. Formerly, only humans (with their extinct forebears) were categorized as hominids, and the great apes were categorized as pongids-that is, members of the primate family Pongidae. However, morphological and molecular studies now indicate that humans are closely related to chimpanzees, while gorillas are more distant and orangutans more distant still. As a result, it has become more common among zoologists to consider humans and great apes to be hominids.

Originally posted by Remulous
every thing u posted came from the so called research of a scientist of some sort

Where should it come from instead then? Your local priest?

Originally posted by Bardock42
Where should it come from instead then? Your local priest?

Originally posted by Bardock42
Where should it come from instead then? Your local priest?

Originally posted by Evil Dead
no.......humans no more descend from monkeys than gorillas or orangutans do. We are all apes......descended from other apes. Monkeys are but one branch of the ape family tree. That's like saying poodles descend from German Shephards. Poodles and German Shephards simply descend from other canine species from varying points in history.

Nicely put... I drew a rudimentary picture depicting what you said so the Creationist people can better understand in laymen terms what evolution truly means. Please note, there are FAR greater numbers of evolutionary branches and offshoots to the human/ape evolutionary tree, which new species are still being discovered and added.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Where should it come from instead then? Your local priest?

no it should come from your own research

whatever dude. something tells my you've never even studiend human DNA or chimpanzee DNA. Hell........you probably don't even have the millions of dollars needed to purchase the equiptment to do so.

you talk a good game..........but are full of shit. you haven't researched anything.............you don't even have the financial resources to research anything...........but you somehow know something others' do not because you've done your "own research". Doing a google search of christian web sites is not research. I'd lay dollars to donuts that you've never even touched an orangutan, gorilla or possibly even chimp. If you've never even touched one.......how did you have access to perform these tests you did as research?

Originally posted by Evil Dead
whatever dude. something tells my you've never even studiend human DNA or chimpanzee DNA. Hell........you probably don't even have the millions of dollars needed to purchase the equiptment to do so.

you talk a good game..........but are full of shit. you haven't researched anything.............you don't even have the financial resources to research anything...........but you somehow know something others' do not because you've done your "own research". Doing a google search of christian web sites is not research. I'd lay dollars to donuts that you've never even touched an orangutan, gorilla or possibly even chimp. If you've never even touched one.......how did you have access to perform these tests you did as research?

Originally posted by Remulous
what research have u done and 4 your info im no chrstian or of any other religion,im just smart enough not to b leave every thing im told.

Wow, the Irony was close to making the whole of the Universe disappear and replace it with something even more bizarre and inexplicable.

i dont think we are monkeys but our ancesters were a close species to them. Not exactly monkey but close.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Wow, the Irony was close to making the whole of the Universe disappear and replace it with something even more bizarre and inexplicable.

Originally posted by Remulous
how can u so easily b leave something so dumb

Hahaha, it was a joke. Reasonable and intelligent people happen to make them once in a while to see who else is reasonable and intelligent around us (yes, I am implying I am one of them).

Basically, the evidence implies that we actually involved from some sort of apelike ancestors, those are cold hard facts that could not be changed by any agenda...look into it, and if you are as smart as you claim, you will see that it is most likely.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Hahaha, it was a joke. Reasonable and intelligent people happen to make them once in a while to see who else is reasonable and intelligent around us (yes, I am implying I am one of them).

Basically, the evidence implies that we actually involved from some sort of apelike ancestors, those are cold hard facts that could not be changed by any agenda...look into it, and if you are as smart as you claim, you will see that it is most likely.

We have a common Ancestor, Ape like things, eventually they branched off, got seperated from the other Ape like things, they Adjusted to their Enviroment, and then Humans are made, while the group staying in their normal Enviroment, became Apes

Originally posted by Remulous
i wasnt reffering to the joke i know it was a joke. im talking about u so easily b leaveing we're apes.theres absolutly no hard facts,if we came from apes then why r they still here,why r we the only species of life with our pre evolutionized form running around.i dont know if u know this but scientist lie alot

Some scientists certainly do, not all though. And the apes that are aroung are not the ones that we evolved from, they are not our ancestors, but relatives. The theory of evolution jsut fits perfectly so far and there is no reason to doubt it, if you find any evidence contradicting it, I will be happy to see it, but all the evidence we have implies that Evolution is what actually happens.

Hey Rem, maybe you should stick to arguing about what video game characters could beat each other up. Just reading your posts in this thread make me feel vicariously embarassed.

You really don't deserve it, but I'm a font of charity, so I'll answer not one, but two of your questions! They both have the same answer, though.

Q. If humans evolved from monkeys, why are monkeys still around?
A. Humans did not evolve from monkeys. Humans and monkeys evolved from a common ancestor that is not, in fact, still around.

Q. Something about how no other species has their forefathers still running around.
A. See above.

what research have u done and 4 your info im no chrstian or of any other religion,im just smart enough not to b leave every thing im told.

my research is not necissary. I don't believe I have anything to add to the findings of thousands upon thousands of scientists who had the means and will to conduct research. Their research and data is however accessible to anybody else with the means and desire to double check.........go for it since you doubt.

i wasnt reffering to the joke i know it was a joke. im talking about u so easily b leaveing we're apes.theres absolutly no hard facts,if we came from apes then why r they still here,why r we the only species of life with our pre evolutionized form running around.i dont know if u know this but scientist lie alot

that's the dumbest thing I've read all day. Our ancestoral species are not still roaming the earth.....neither are the ancestoral species of gorillas, orangutans, chimps, monkeys, etc. Each species evolved along a seperate branch of many, many generations of ancestoral species.......but if you go back far enough in time, those branches will intersect at the point the very first animal we would classify today as an ape.

according to your logic.........when Labradores and Poodles were bred to create the labradoodle (a trendy new "designer" breed of dog).....the instant the first labradoodle was born, all poodles and labradores should have dropped dead as it is impossible for it's ancestors to co-exist on the same planet.

do you think before you type?

Originally posted by Remulous
i wasnt reffering to the joke i know it was a joke. im talking about u so easily b leaveing we're apes.theres absolutly no hard facts,if we came from apes then why r they still here,why r we the only species of life with our pre evolutionized form running around.i dont know if u know this but scientist lie alot

And man being created out of a mound of dirt and then having a rib ripped out to create woman is full fo hard facts? That sounds logical to you and evolution doesn't?

Originally posted by Gregory
Hey Rem, maybe you should stick to arguing about what video game characters could beat each other up. Just reading your posts in this thread make me feel vicariously embarassed.

You really don't deserve it, but I'm a font of charity, so I'll answer not one, but two of your questions! They both have the same answer, though.

Q. If humans evolved from monkeys, why are monkeys still around?
A. Humans did not evolve from monkeys. Humans and monkeys evolved from a common ancestor that is not, in fact, still around.

Q. Something about how no other species has their forefathers still running around.
A. See above.