sorry about screwing up your name bigbran. however you came on that forum saying you could own every member in a debate. Then when the debate happens you chicken out. (or are you planing to keep posting there?) Also normally when someone uses a feat for support they don't use one they think is PIS. So do you think the spiderman SB thor is PIS or not. What i'm trying to get at is that is you want to bring up capt's other posts from a differnt thread be expected to have your own brought up as well.
Originally posted by jasofiscyes and i was joking when i said that about his team.
sorry about screwing up your name bigbran. however you came on that forum saying you could own every member in a debate. Then when the debate happens you chicken out. (or are you planing to keep posting there?) Also normally when someone uses a feat for support they don't use one they think is PIS. So do you think the spiderman SB thor is PIS or not. What i'm trying to get at is that is you want to bring up capt's other posts from a differnt thread be expected to have your own brought up as well.
heres the link for the thor fight, and a couple others, just scroll down.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=377889&perpage=20&highlight=&pagenumber=16
Originally posted by bigbran
yes and i was joking when i said that about his team.
it was masterson thor that got sb, normal thor would kill spiderman.
i didnt chicken out, i was posting until, it just got stupid, so i posted scans.
then he critesized them, so then i told him that the scans were for showing spideys speed.
ok well that's good. you really didn't come across that way but that's fine.
Originally posted by jasofisci havent really been serious in a thread in a while, if you look back at my thread for thanos vs supes in h2h. youll see me actually debating. ive gotten better since then. just with the superman, wolverine, hulk threads, you kinda get sick of it, and you dont really care anymore.
ok well that's good. you really didn't come across that way but that's fine.
Originally posted by bigbranmaybe not, theres just random blabbering for the first couple pages.
i havent really been serious in a thread in a while, if you look back at my thread for thanos vs supes in h2h. youll see me actually debating. ive gotten better since then. just with the superman, wolverine, hulk threads, you kinda get sick of it, and you dont really care anymore.
Originally posted by capt it up
by stabbing him.hercules in mortal form is not that powerfull. he strong how ever and durable he can still be hurt and he has no range attacks. his reflexes and agility are also far from logans level and though skilled in wrestling his fighting skill is nuthing compared to Logans
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Originally posted by K3VIL
NOW BRING IT ON!
Hercules in his demidog form, stripped of most of his power, has Class 100 strength slightly under that of Thor wielding Mjolnir.His body durability makes him able to withstand things that without hyperbole, PIS and fanboys force to tap into, would kill Logan on a whim.
Wolverine is currently(when he has never been?) powered by the fanboys force, he recover from being just a skeleton, he's considered a Class 100 guy with metahuman durability cause he throw down with big guns.Throwing down doesn't mean victory, which most of the wolvieboys doesn't even consider.Even the mortal Hercules which fought post Onslaught Hulk would destroy Logan.Thousand years of fighting experience, and training are more than enough to slaughter Wolverine.
Hercules has punched Firelord and told him he better calm down, now to calm down a herald and make him follow your statements, you must be a force to reckon with.
Wolverine is a major hyperbole to reckon with.
But Marvel is too much far anyway, they changed the mutants from a race of superpowered beings with some exceptional members to a race of: I can own all and pwn your ass cause my fanboys wants so.
Next Issue of Civil War:
Wolverine take a position in the CW, he side with Captain America, arrives flying wearing a new costume and a cape, he slice up Thor, blast him with his anti-god eyebeams and decapitate him with uru claws, then teleport in the DC Universe and proceed into making the wall source his new apartment and Darkseid his personal "Jarvis" while Supes will be used as a punching ball in his gym.
Wolverine wins this my ass.
I gave you perfect reasoning for why I think what I think.. all you've given is a half assed b*tch fest about what you think of wolverine's character and his fans... hercules wins cause he's knocked down a herald?
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I guess wolverine doesn't stand a chance against spiderman cause spiderman has knocked the same guy out... wiat.. so has black knight for that matter.. wolverine can't POSSIBLY compete with black knight then right? 😱 or... you know... the hell with that...
throwing down doesn't mean victory? okay how about victory then.. does that mean victory? cause wolverine's already scored one on herc.. 🙄
Originally posted by olympianwithout upgrades wolvie scroes a KO in hulk 340, he almost kills him in hulk 8, and he almost kills him again in wolvie 145 and before you rant on about how death wolverine was upgraded.. cause I know that's were you're going with that.... PROVE IT... show me a scan of ON PANAL PROOF that says he was upgraded.. and THEN explain to e who took said upgrades away... until then wolverine almost killed hulk in wolvie 145 and there's not a damned thing you can say to dictate otherwise really.
Jinzin.Wolverine beat Hulk without any upgrades, when?
Originally posted by olympianI suppose the fact that he had the avengers backing him up didn't help him whatsoever... 🙄
Are you using the Larsen figth AGAIN, in wich Logan itself was running away so Hulk wouldnt beat him? Or against Grey Hulk in wich at most he got a round? Good ones, hey, Herc has gone against Savage and Mindless and stalemated the bastard without any weapons.
point in fact.. wolverine's almost killed hulk, wolvie has scored a KO on hulk, wolvie's almost killed him again..
near death>>>>stalemate.
Originally posted by olympianprobably cause it isn't.. you haven't seen the wolvie respect thread have you?
Wendigo? The Alpha Fligth teamup? The one where Wolverine didnt beat him? Nah, cant be that one.
QUOTE=7088138]Originally posted by olympian
Thing. No problem there. He also put Logan to sleep with one love tap. [/QUOTE] huge problem there considering the ONE example in things favor was circimstantial and it's even written ON PANAL that wolverine was already fritzed out.... too bad the next two times they met up all thing got was cut up.
Originally posted by olympianwhy would his punch hurt herc? 🤨
The bar figth. The one where he punched Herc to no effect, and was bitchslapped across the room? That the claws can cut even top tiers is no surprise. And yet he was humiliated by getting down twice in a row and managed to get got Herc down once.
dude the you're ignoring the fact that by the end of things wolverine was standing herc was not.. herc was scared shitless of wolverine's claws and with good reason.
Originally posted by olympianlike I said.. i don't recall any fight taking place but if you've got proof otherwise post it.. i've been wrong before..
And no. No need to close the eyes. In the mini he got punked. No shame tho, the whole Na sans Sentry wer punked as well.
Originally posted by olympianunlike me? who said I was discounting the loss in CoC 2 i mean.. I'm using it to support my own argument.. 🤨
For the record, unlike you i didnt discount the loss in CoC 2.
Originally posted by olympianwoulda been easy.. cut cut stab stab.. end of fight.
I merely pointed out what it was. A battle in wich we saw shit, unlike the other two examples. I guess the writer didnt knew exactly how to pass that one, but i digress.
Originally posted by olympianherc 2? where has he won TWO from? are you counting the bar fight in herc's favor? 😬 even though it eneded up making logan look the better? hell were does erc get ONE from? you got a fight? please post scans...
Herc 2 logan 1 so far. Taking in account the foes they have gone against and theyr track record, Logan loses the majority and he gets the same deal with any notable top tier.
logan gets the same deal with any top tier according to you? funny that's not the way marvel sees things.
Originally posted by jasofisclike I said.. herc can easily win by.. say chucking a street on wolvie.. but h2h?
I diffently give herc the edge but only because he's fought wolverine before. The problem with top tier characters and fighting abilty is that they never need to use it. Therefore they either forget it or it gets dulled away. Herc should know by now that he can't take wolverines claws and agilty so hopefully he will do some kind of long rang attack or somekind or new strategy. olympian I still only count one for herc (the mini) which other one are you counting. Wolverine has a chance of winning but I'm afraid it's not very much. they really should upgrade wolverine's powers so that when he fights top tier characters it makes more sence.
Originally posted by A.JPROVE IT!
I have grown to hate him because of fanboys who think he can take on Hercules 🙄OK look, wolverine is a street leveler, Herc is a god or demigod or whatever, the claws can cut anything, if the force behind it is strong enough, which it isn't, he is a street leveler he cant hit hard enough.
wolverine has cut through almost all the marvel top tier leveled characters
hulk
thing
namor
HERCULES
wendigo
THANOS
silver surfer
thor
blahblahblah.. but he can't here? why? cuase you don't like it?
what's more fanboy? believing something that CONSISTENTLY happens in comics or ignoring a feat no matter how many times it's reproduced?
you call people fanboys in an insulting manner yet your antifanboyism is ten times worse then a wolvie fanboy could ever be.
Originally posted by A.Jherc isn't lobo.. lobo was paid to take a dive.. lobo isn't a useabel example unless you want to consider crossovers cannon now.. in which case.. wolverine cut thanos WITH BONE CLAWS ON PANAL... but he can't gut herc? you got yourself some pretty scewed logic there buddy. 🙄
Oh and the only time Logan has beat herc was off panel, and guess what, hes also beat Lobo off panel.LOBO !!
Originally posted by A.J
EDIT: And how am I underestimating Logan, you re sayign he can beat a god, I think your overestimating him.
god's a pretty relative term in the marvel verse... 😬