Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Out of Hercules and Wolverine who is more likely to land the first hit? Wolverine. With PIS off this wouldn't be a pussy ass glancing blow that just rakes the chest of Herc either, it will be a full on evisceration. Wolverine can end the fight instantly with one will placed hit and he has the skill and speed to pull it off.
Pwahahahah 😱
Wow to think that a canadian ninja midget with claws and healing factor could go up against a demi-god?!?! 🤨 😆
Wolverine's pressure points and whatnot arent going to do crap to Hercules. ❌
Originally posted by jinzinhuge problem there considering the ONE example in things favor was circimstantial and it's even written ON PANAL that wolverine was already fritzed out.... too bad the next two times they met up all thing got was cut up.
without upgrades wolvie scroes a KO in hulk 340, he almost kills him in hulk 8, and he almost kills him again in wolvie 145 and before you rant on about how death wolverine was upgraded.. cause I know that's were you're going with that.... PROVE IT... show me a scan of ON PANAL PROOF that says he was upgraded.. and THEN explain to e who took said upgrades away... until then wolverine almost killed hulk in wolvie 145 and there's not a damned thing you can say to dictate otherwise really.I suppose the fact that he had the avengers backing him up didn't help him whatsoever... 🙄
point in fact.. wolverine's almost killed hulk, wolvie has scored a KO on hulk, wolvie's almost killed him again..
near death>>>>stalemate.probably cause it isn't.. you haven't seen the wolvie respect thread have you?
QUOTE=7088138]Originally posted by olympian
[B]Thing. No problem there. He also put Logan to sleep with one love tap.
why would his punch hurt herc? 🤨
dude the you're ignoring the fact that by the end of things wolverine was standing herc was not.. herc was scared shitless of wolverine's claws and with good reason.
like I said.. i don't recall any fight taking place but if you've got proof otherwise post it.. i've been wrong before..
unlike me? who said I was discounting the loss in CoC 2 i mean.. I'm using it to support my own argument.. 🤨
woulda been easy.. cut cut stab stab.. end of fight.
herc 2? where has he won TWO from? are you counting the bar fight in herc's favor? 😬 even though it eneded up making logan look the better? hell were does erc get ONE from? you got a fight? please post scans...
logan gets the same deal with any top tier according to you? funny that's not the way marvel sees things. [/B][/QUOTE]
1- Still with the jib about the Grey Hulk and the Larsen figth? Get over it. He lost both. He even said so in the Larsen figth when we see him running from Hulk to the mine.
1.a- Everyone transformed by Apocalypse wer upgraded. Show me why wouldnt Wolverine be, when everyone else, including more powerful people wer. Thats Apocalypse M.o.
2- The Avengers didnt backed up Herc in his first figth with the Mindless Hulk, no. He went at it alone. As seen by the fact the others wer watching the two figthing without interfering.
3- Circunstancial nothing. Logan challenged him and was ko with a love tap.
3.a- Do you even have examples of him stabbing top tiers instead of just cutting? Or your best example is cutting someone whos not in the top tier bracet?
4- haha. So you count that as a superior showing just because he finally scored one single hit after being humilliated across the room? Priceless.
5- No. Your have discounting the mini brawl just because he was again treated as inferior. Wereas i dont discount any of them.
6- Two superior showings over one.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
If they don't have a healing factor/true invulnerability (think Juggernaut) or ranged attacks Wolverine wins the majority. Herc has to fight Wolverine in melee, he has no other options. Is it really such a stretch to believe that a faster and superior fighter with the means to incapacitate Hercules with one solid hit would give him a good fight?
Has Wolverine ever knocked out a top tier guy in a single hit? Even with the claws?
Bah!
Just trowing out some stuff i found. No reason at all for it. Just enjoy it.
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Now repeat with me. Logan cant be dodged. He cant be dodged. He cant be dodged. He cant be.....
So anytime Wolverine is knocked out it was because he was "hit before", but if he's in a fight and takes hits from much stronger characters, that by the same margin is ok?
I'm asking. Secondly why in the hell are matches like Spiderman vs Firelord and other ridiculous battles (said so by the same people who are using them), brought up?
Originally posted by jinzin
so basically you've got nothing but speculation....most horsemen keep their upgrades for quite some time after departing the horsemen.. hell caliban STILL has his.. but wolverine lost them? when?
hey wait.. when was it stated he had them? oh that's right you don't know.. cause you've got nothing...
Just saying a reason how he could have lost them...🤨
Originally posted by jinzin
actually grey hulk can turn as strong and invulnerable as any green hulk... he just needs to get pissed.. was he pissed in that fight? oh yeah... big time... and wolvie scored a KO in the first part of that fight.. no going around it.
Erm...it's a known fact that Grey Hulk is NOT as powerful as other Hulk incarnations...there is no way going around the fact that 99% of the greatest Hulk feats are made by Savage or Professor Hulk...Grey Hulk is simply not as powerful as those two are.
Originally posted by jinzin
so any hulk feats after heroes reborn don't count or something? 🤨 I mean I would get it if it was right after said event but this fight takes place several years after the fact.
Uhh...did I say that they don't count? I just said that this one was a weak-ass incarnation...I notice how you fail to explain the fact that it took him MINUTES to heal his EYES, whereas Professor Hulk, for example healed his ENTIRE BODY from near-skeletal state in seconds...
...why is that? Thaaaats right, boys and girls, a weaker incarnation.
Originally posted by jinzin
barely made a crater? he glazed over the ground.. you know as akin with a nuke?seriously...
And what a odd nuke it was...see it's result from the first panel...
Yeah, like I said, barely made a crater (A small crater)
THIS one is a nuke.
http://img84.exs.cx/img84/3118/nuke54wz.jpg
Originally posted by jinzin
two of those ARE savage hulk... 🤨
😂 Because we all know that a fricking headbutt from Wolverine is enough to make Savage Hulk bleed...
No...Savage Hulk is the incarnation that survives a re-entry from space with no trouble AT ALL.
http://img110.exs.cx/img110/3433/nebulon24iq.jpg
Originally posted by jinzin
again.. all you've got are rationalizations and no proof.. the facts are.. wolverine's already proven himself against he likes of hulk and he's even beaten him.. it was implied that he's never beaten hulk.. that's a bunch of bullshit since he has... and now you're scewing the point to make it seem like those examples don't prove that he's beaten hulk.. I mean wtf.... but okay... in regards to you.. again.. all you've got is specualtion to say that this hulk can't hang with the likes of herc, namor etc etc etc.. much less beat their ass into the ground...... and aside from that wolverine's already put down every name you just mentioned save thor.... but all those proofs don't count either do they... 🙄
If a HEADBUTT from Wolverine is enough to make this Hulk bleed and shout in pain, and it takes it more then FIFTEEN MINUTES to heal his EYES, Namor, Hercules, or Thor would stomp that weak-ass incarnation to the ground.
And the examples don't count because the heroes were holding back...even a five-year-old child could see the difference between the punches that topple mountains and the pathetic punches they throw against Wolverine...hell, the sound effects ALONE show that.
Originally posted by A.J
I know its so ridiculous that people think Logan can beat Hercules 😂Oh and can someone post the Herc Logan fights please.
And now that i read DC response to Jin..wait, what? Now you state Logan was indeed upgraded when turned into a horseman? Why did you said he never had it in an earlier response then.
oh oh.
Originally posted by olympianBut they arent the whole fights, the ones you posted. 😕
AJ, one of the matches where both encountered is already posted. Its the NA one where Herc had to get Caps shield as a prize.And now that i read DC response to Jin..wait, what? Now you state Logan was indeed upgraded when turned into a horseman? Why did you said he never had it in an earlier response then.
oh oh.
And no all are working.
Yeah i only posted one and it seems its not opening. Ill get it here:
The essential of the bar figth, if anyone have the full pages, do post:
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y226/jjschm20/Hercules/Herc-Wolvie.jpg
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The NA brawl for the prize:
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The CoC 2 its easy to get if one looks or ask. It was only one panel. Nothing was shown.
Originally posted by DarkCrawlerLast time I said the last part I heard "are you saying Savage Hulk was holding back?" My bone to pick would be that's like saying Wolverine has the mountain busting durability, and that's just absurd.
Just saying a reason how he could have lost them...🤨Erm...it's a known fact that Grey Hulk is NOT as powerful as other Hulk incarnations...there is no way going around the fact that 99% of the greatest Hulk feats are made by Savage or Professor Hulk...Grey Hulk is simply not as powerful as those two are.
Uhh...did I say that they don't count? I just said that this one was a weak-ass incarnation...I notice how you fail to explain the fact that it took him MINUTES to heal his EYES, whereas Professor Hulk, for example healed his ENTIRE BODY from near-skeletal state in seconds...
...why is that? Thaaaats right, boys and girls, a weaker incarnation.
And what a odd nuke it was...see it's result from the first panel...
Yeah, like I said, barely made a crater (A small crater)
THIS one is a nuke.
http://img84.exs.cx/img84/3118/nuke54wz.jpg😂 Because we all know that a fricking headbutt from Wolverine is enough to make Savage Hulk bleed...
No...Savage Hulk is the incarnation that survives a re-entry from space with no trouble AT ALL.
http://img110.exs.cx/img110/3433/nebulon24iq.jpgIf a HEADBUTT from Wolverine is enough to make this Hulk bleed and shout in pain, and it takes it more then FIFTEEN MINUTES to heal his EYES, Namor, Hercules, or Thor would stomp that weak-ass incarnation to the ground.
And the examples don't count because the heroes were holding back...even a five-year-old child could see the difference between the punches that topple mountains and the pathetic punches they throw against Wolverine...hell, the sound effects ALONE show that.
Originally posted by DinalfosWolverine has something that the Dog o' War doesn't have...
That is utter horseshit. If prof. is unharmed by the bite of a Dog 'o War(which can crush secondary adamantium in 7 seconds), then wolvie's claws should not hurt Savage Hulk, let alone a simple headbutt. Seriously, the PIS needs to stop.
