Mr. Majestic vs Beta Ray Bill

Originally posted by Longinus
Why wouldn't he if he's more powerful and arguably a better fighter? Is it the whole speed thing?

Superman's monstrous speed advantage trumps Thor's power advantage. I've said this many times.

Originally posted by Longinus
Why wouldn't he if he's more powerful and arguably a better fighter? Is it the whole speed thing?

Thor is more powerful than Superman.
GL is more powerful than Superman.
Surfer is more powerful than Superman.
Zatanna is more powerful than Superman.
Darkseid is more powerful than Superman.

Alot of people are more powerful than Superman.

But Superman has the speedblitz.
And that trumphs alot of people on the list above.

Remove the speed, and he loses. Alot.

Originally posted by Validus
I think Thor is more powerful than Superman. Doesn't mean he'd beat him a fight though.

Superman's a lot faster though.

Originally posted by Validus
Yeah, basically. I know everyone hates the speed argument and it bothers me too sometime but there isn't a single better super power available when it comes to winning a fight. This is why The Flash is the most deadly person on the JLA despite not being as powerful as J'onn or Green Lantern.

I think intangibility could counter the speed thing or density manipulation, you know to become as hard or as soft as you wanna be, that way you don't take damage from speedy people. But Thor should be fast enough to land hits on Supes right...?

Originally posted by UniOmni
Thor is more powerful than Superman.
GL is more powerful than Superman.
Surfer is more powerful than Superman.
Zatanna is more powerful than Superman.
Darkseid is more powerful than Superman.

Alot of people are more powerful than Superman.

But Superman has the speedblitz.
And that trumphs alot of people on the list above.

Remove the speed, and he loses. Alot.

Originally posted by UniOmni
Thor is more powerful than Superman.
GL is more powerful than Superman.
Surfer is more powerful than Superman.
Zatanna is more powerful than Superman.
Darkseid is more powerful than Superman.

Alot of people are more powerful than Superman.

But Superman has the speedblitz.
And that trumphs alot of people on the list above.

Remove the speed, and he loses. Alot.

So? Remove Flash's speed and you've got a wimp.

Dare I say it, SPEEDBLITZ Majestic ends horse face.

Originally posted by batdude123
So? Remove Flash's speed and you've got a wimp.

Originally posted by Validus
He still controls kinetic energy. Removing his speed would just make him an upgraded Gambit. 🙄

Yeah. Superman without superspeed isn't exactly useless either.

honestly anyone with superstrength is going to have some superspeed anyway🙂

Originally posted by batdude123
So? Remove Flash's speed and you've got a wimp.

You remove Flash's speed, and you take away his reason for existing.
Take away Supermans speed, and he has like 8 other powers to use.

No comparison.

Still doesn't change the fact that if you take away Supermans speed, he loses alot of the battles on this board.
And others.

Originally posted by batdude123
Yeah. Superman without superspeed isn't exactly useless either.

Originally posted by Validus
Nobody said he was but his win/loss record on the forum takes a hell of a nosedive, yes?

Yeah, but you can say that about a lot of people. Not really fair to single out Superman imo.

Originally posted by batdude123
Yeah, but you can say that about a lot of people. Not really fair to single out Superman imo.

Not so much, take away Thor's "superspeed" and see what happens huh!

Actually alot of DC characters would get mashed.

Originally posted by batdude123
Yeah, but you can say that about a lot of people. Not really fair to single out Superman imo.

I believe that Thor is more powerful than superman, but Superman's speed advantage evens the odds. Thor has fought many speedsters, so he does have experience fighting them.

Originally posted by Soleran
Not so much, take away Thor's "superspeed" and see what happens huh!

Actually alot of DC characters would get mashed.

I wasn't even talking about Thor. He usually fights without using super speed in the first place.

Originally posted by batdude123
I wasn't even talking about Thor. He usually fights without using super speed in the first place.

I was using sarcasm without a smilie to show you!

Originally posted by batdude123
Superman's monstrous speed advantage trumps Thor's power advantage. I've said this many times.

Speed is a valuable asset, but I think there are some powers that can counter speed. For example, being able to absorb the energy from your opponent, or to summon force fields. I mean there are many ways to counter your opponents speed, in a short amount of time. Not every character is going to be ko'd within the first second of the fight.