Is it possible to use both sidesof the Force?

Started by Darth Kreiger3 pages

Is it possible to use both sidesof the Force?

I know you can in Jedi Outcast/Jedi Acdemy/Kotor etc, but I don't know if that counts.

Someone who uses both sides would kick a** in battle, use Dark Side attacks, and then Heal/Shield

It's called a shadow Jedi, although I don't know how canon they are.

Many force users do, Mace Windu occasionally uses dark side attacks.

According to George Lucas, that idea is just stupid.

Once you use the Dark Side, you don't go back. Anakin was the only case that proved this wrong (outside of EU, of course).

EU just takes a shit all over it, though. Kyle Katarn should be the most powerful Dark Jedi at the moment, due to the fact that he uses freaking Lightning in JO.

I think the Grey Jedi have occured in Star Wars EU, but I refuse to acknowledge it.

Bespin is correct.

You cannot dawdle in both sides. Using attcks is a bit differant from immersing yourself in it though.

But if you're a Jedi using lightning, than your not really a Jedi anymore.

well actually.. i think that u can, mace used form 7, vapaad he battled with anger. he used the dark side. but not enuff to defect.. just to be canon. in ep3 against sids he was batting with all his anger and rage and u saw it.

Shatterpoint described it well.

Mace used his anger to his advantage, but he never actually went far enough into it to become "one" with the darkside, in a sense.

Well I read Dooku's thing on Wookie, and it said he attempted to do this, but he just went further to the Dark Side

I would say that Dooku is one of the closest people to do both. He has extensiv knowledge in both sides but I dont know if he is able to use both at once. That would require one to use both his anger and hatred along with peacefull intenetions at the same time and that will not work. Its either one way or the other.

lol true.. u really love dooku huh ?

Infinity, you use the Internet term "Lol" way too much

Actually everyone uses it too much as if they are really laughing like idiots behind their monitors. But whatever..

Re: Mace.

There is a difference between having emotions and letting them rule you. Jedi aren't robots- they still have anger and fear and so on. But they are the masters of their emotions, not the reverse.

i think you can be a blend of both because you could be morally right, like not murdering people and fighting evil etc but use the darkside to fight evil if you see my point you NEED the darkside to survive and the light side to keep a balance and prevent evil overwhelming good, well thats how i see it anyway

Err, no, the Dark Side IS evil. To use it is to create that imbalance.

it is not possible. only for mace, luke, revan of all that i know..

it could potentially be possible, using both sides of the force is a contradiction in itself, turning away from both ideologies of the jedi and sith may have the effect of letting the user wield both sides (if thier will is strong enough then they may be able to control boh sides but its unlikely, grey jedi have been heard of though and i belive of thier existance.

Personally, I want to believe that there's a way to be a Darkie without being downright evil, because in realistic applications good and evil are simply words. A person doesn't really call something he wants to do evil, or else he wouldn't want to do it (mentally imbalanced individuals excluded).

There could be the possibility of achieving a point in between the two, but the "Jedi" in that position would need to control the Force better than every other Jedi or Sith in history could.

Originally posted by General Kaliero
Personally, I want to believe that there's a way to be a Darkie without being downright evil, because in realistic applications good and evil are simply words. A person doesn't really call something he wants to do evil, or else he wouldn't want to do it (mentally imbalanced individuals excluded).

Oh finally, thats what I've always wanted to believe when I'm at a loss as to what to think about. I know this is slightly off topic, but that is why i think certain characters are so much more interesting.

For instance, Darth Revan, corrupting thousands of Jedi and wreacking havoc across the galaxy but leaving its vital infastructure intact, assasinating those Republic leaders who would seek to destabalise unity against a threat on a different front (the true Sith perhaps? or even Chuck Norris?) and also Count Dooku, leaving the Jedi Order and his ties to the Republic because of the corruption, yet inevitably loosing his head, in more ways than one.

People who were not inherrently evil, but saw that path as a means to an end, albeit in both those cases doing some rather evil things. Dooku himself used a Jedi healing trance when recruiting Jango Fett as the prime clone.

the force is an energy field that surrounds everything that lives. it cant be classed into good and evil, its the user who conforms to class.

the jedi want to help and the sith want power. the fact is that if the user is strong enough then he/she can use both sides.
also, both philsosopies (i know i cant spell) of the jedi and sith are flawed. the jedi must think outward, not allowed to love and have natural and healthy emotions like anger and pain. for example, anakin fell in love with padme but had to keep it a secret so he had noone to turn to, to find out what he must do aobut his strong emotions.

the sith think about power and hatred, it becomes thier obsessionand they cant live without power and the darkside embracing them, thats why its so hard to break free, the more you have the more you want.

if the grey jedi exist then they would be better if they learned at an older age, a chance to express and learn about natural emotins. the jedi of the old republic were slaves to a flawed belief and the sith are too obsesed with power.